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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 30, 2023 5:01:33 GMT
Missing the point again, I'm afraid. And once again, I did not say their minds would be destroyed if exposed to concepts like homosexuality, transgenderism, etc. and I didn't call for content to be censored. The point is, the parents complaining are just being smothering and overprotective.
Then why are you complaining?
Some parents just feel it would be better that their child learns certain things when they reach a certain age, because as a toddler their understanding is too underdeveloped. Because as I established early on, I don't think you should go heavy with certain mature subject matter in media aimed at toddlers who haven't even spent one day in kindergarten. Their minds are too young and underdeveloped to comprehend better.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 30, 2023 5:22:42 GMT
I don't think I would have understood it at all, I was too young to. But many teachers do, which is part of the reason why Florida introduced the bill last year. By that logic, shouldn't the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit films have flopped spectacularly? What about the other iconic stories that have been made into movies again and again every few years like Pride and Prejudice, A Tale of Two Cities, A Christmas Carol, and Sherlock Holmes? Again, I didn't say it was a bomb, I didn't say it was a failure, I said it lost money, there's a distinction between all three. And I have never come across any statement by Paul Feig where says he doesn't want to make a sequel. It depends on the person, one can be in favor of homosexuality and not be a good person in other ways, and one cannot be in favor of the same exact thing but be a good person still. Supporting one or the other shouldn't be the only qualification to define the character of an individual. Plenty have complained about other aspects related to the movie in my online ventures, so it's not just the romance. It is real criticism. *You* made the argument that manga has never outsold a comic book made in the United States, *you* shared an article that admits that some manga have outsold many western comic book titles, *you* shared an article only calls into question the sales numbers for one title. In other words, *you* failed at supporting your argument. You still have not provided any concrete evidence of him admitting to be a scam artist. Till you can, do not waste my time trying to argue this talking point. I don't care. If anything, your approach is very outdated. Fighting fire with fire is a very flawed approach in argument. Isn't that what the people you call grifters do? Consume media they claim to hate to rant about it? Florida did that bill because Florida is a holdout for outdated cultural stances. And you don't know if you wouldn't have understood, kids aren't as blind and deaf as overprotective adults think.
No one had ever done live action movies on that scale before, not even those 80s fantasy movies. And the Hobbit movies are criticized much more, yes.
Those stories get remade because they're a proven success, A Wrinkle In Time was never done before.
It didn't lose money either, because it brought in more than it took to make. The idea it failed was a fake rumor propagated by certain "fans". And Feig saying he wants to make a sequel now just means he changed his mind.
It's not the only qualification, though intolerance is a decent indicator of someones' nature.
The vast majority of it was purely about the homosexual character, there's some minor stuff about the environmental themes but they're minor.
It's fake criticism, to hide that they're just his obedient supporters who don't want to look too mindless.
I brought up the article to show that in that case, it wasn't the easy "it outsold comics!" argument that the Comicgaters say it was. I'm sure there's more.
None of them will admit it, you read it from their arguments.
Unfortunate, but it doesn't change that they're the Proto-Grifters.
Being conciliatory is pointless, they have no intention of co-existence. They threw the first punch, they should offer the olive branch.
No, the Grifters don't actually watch the stuff they rant about. They hear rumors and second hand sources but don't actually watch it.
The bill is to allow parents and guardians to oversee school curriculum and lesson planning and determine if they feel it is appropriate for their child to be educated on certain topics up to a later grade in elementary school. Educators can be gay, bi, pansexual, and identify as a tree if they wish to, they are just not encouraged to discuss their romantic interests in class. And neither do you know if I would have understood such things in my youth, either, so your counterargument can only go so far. But going by your logic, the Lord of the Rings trilogy should have flopped because of the general public's familiarity with the stories. Following that, The Hobbit should have not been made because the previous trilogy tanked. But A Wrinkle In Time had been successfully adapted into an audio drama, a stage play, an opera, and a popular television film in the early 00's, so it wasn't as if the story had never been adapted before. It did lose money, a film has to make back its budget three times and that includes marketing expenses, and it didn't do so. It wasn't a bomb, but it definitely did not hit the mark they were hoping for. And please point to where Paul Feig has ever stated that he didn't want to make a sequel, because all I have ever him say on the matter was that he would love to make a sequel. There were other criticisms as well, not just minor ones. So, what would you accept as actual criticism of the book? But the article you shared went against your claim that manga has never outsold western comic books. If you do not have the evidence that I am requesting, then your claim can only go so far and it isn't going to be easy for your compose it without coming across as fallacy. So, what is the endgame, then? How far should it go? If both groups have the attention of ending a culture point in history for the future and silence all opposition, then true diversity can never truly be achieved by a society. And your evidence for such is?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 30, 2023 12:59:32 GMT
Feels like these two threads should be moved to the politics board.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 30, 2023 13:25:25 GMT
The point is, the parents complaining are just being smothering and overprotective.
Then why are you complaining?
Some parents just feel it would be better that their child learns certain things when they reach a certain age, because as a toddler their understanding is too underdeveloped. Because as I established early on, I don't think you should go heavy with certain mature subject matter in media aimed at toddlers who haven't even spent one day in kindergarten. Their minds are too young and underdeveloped to comprehend better. Some parents would rather smother and shelter their kids from facts of modern day life.
Saying "Sometimes there's a Dad and a Mom, or 2 Dads, or 2 Moms. But that's all okay" isn't that heavy or mature.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 30, 2023 13:34:10 GMT
Florida did that bill because Florida is a holdout for outdated cultural stances. And you don't know if you wouldn't have understood, kids aren't as blind and deaf as overprotective adults think.
No one had ever done live action movies on that scale before, not even those 80s fantasy movies. And the Hobbit movies are criticized much more, yes.
Those stories get remade because they're a proven success, A Wrinkle In Time was never done before.
It didn't lose money either, because it brought in more than it took to make. The idea it failed was a fake rumor propagated by certain "fans". And Feig saying he wants to make a sequel now just means he changed his mind.
It's not the only qualification, though intolerance is a decent indicator of someones' nature.
The vast majority of it was purely about the homosexual character, there's some minor stuff about the environmental themes but they're minor.
It's fake criticism, to hide that they're just his obedient supporters who don't want to look too mindless.
I brought up the article to show that in that case, it wasn't the easy "it outsold comics!" argument that the Comicgaters say it was. I'm sure there's more.
None of them will admit it, you read it from their arguments.
Unfortunate, but it doesn't change that they're the Proto-Grifters.
Being conciliatory is pointless, they have no intention of co-existence. They threw the first punch, they should offer the olive branch.
No, the Grifters don't actually watch the stuff they rant about. They hear rumors and second hand sources but don't actually watch it.
The bill is to allow parents and guardians to oversee school curriculum and lesson planning and determine if they feel it is appropriate for their child to be educated on certain topics up to a later grade in elementary school. Educators can be gay, bi, pansexual, and identify as a tree if they wish to, they are just not encouraged to discuss their romantic interests in class. And neither do you know if I would have understood such things in my youth, either, so your counterargument can only go so far. But going by your logic, the Lord of the Rings trilogy should have flopped because of the general public's familiarity with the stories. Following that, The Hobbit should have not been made because the previous trilogy tanked. But A Wrinkle In Time had been successfully adapted into an audio drama, a stage play, an opera, and a popular television film in the early 00's, so it wasn't as if the story had never been adapted before. It did lose money, a film has to make back its budget three times and that includes marketing expenses, and it didn't do so. It wasn't a bomb, but it definitely did not hit the mark they were hoping for. And please point to where Paul Feig has ever stated that he didn't want to make a sequel, because all I have ever him say on the matter was that he would love to make a sequel. There were other criticisms as well, not just minor ones. So, what would you accept as actual criticism of the book? But the article you shared went against your claim that manga has never outsold western comic books. If you do not have the evidence that I am requesting, then your claim can only go so far and it isn't going to be easy for your compose it without coming across as fallacy. So, what is the endgame, then? How far should it go? If both groups have the attention of ending a culture point in history for the future and silence all opposition, then true diversity can never truly be achieved by a society. And your evidence for such is? The Bill is to allow overly protective and smothering parents to influence educational content to make sure the kids don't really learn important things. And to make sure they can tells any non-het teachers "We can crush you like ants whether the reason is valid or not." to feel powerful.
LOTR was known to the public, and the plan WAS to make only one theatrical movie and release the others as direct to video/DVD because the studio didn't think there'd be an audience. They changed their minds after Fellowship was a success. It didn't tank, so the Hobbit movies were made.
Never a big budget movie.
And it made enough of that to enrage the Fandom Menace, who wanted an absolute bomb. Feig was ambivalent at first but then changed his tune afterwards, so all we see is him saying he'd like to make a sequel.
Things like "Flat characters" "No real Antagonist", stuff like that isn't really deep criticism.
Poor characterization, too blatantly anti-political, etc
It pointed out it's not the easy sell that Comicsgaters said it was.
You really expect someone like Nerdrotic to outright say "I don't believe anything I'm saying, I just want $$$"?
The endgame is for the older generation to inevitably die out, which cannot be stopped, and then the newer generation can be free without having to put up with their old outdated stances any longer and the world can move on.
Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker blatantly getting plot points wrong in their criticisms, things they'd notice if they watched the movies legit.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 31, 2023 6:45:45 GMT
formersamhmd... What makes you think you have better judgment on what is and what isn't appropriate for a child under the age of eight, let alone the age of four, compared to their parents and guardians? Are you a parent? Are they in school? Have they graduated already? Your attempts at trying to save face are coming across as a mix of hysterical and sad. You are wrong about A Winkle in Time and John Carter being too familiar with the public conscious that any cinematic retelling of the stories was bound to fail at the box office. You are wrong about the financial income of Ghostbusters 2016, and wrong about its director's comments about making a sequel to it. You are wrong about Lightyear having a "respectable" box office, and Strange World having streaming numbers that are worth bragging about. And instead of admitting that you are wrong, you are trying your best to draw attention away from your inaccuracy of your statements and really failing to come out clean. The fact that you shared a link to an article that doesn't support your claim that manga has never outsold comic books produced in the United States is pretty mind-boggling and really opens the conversation on whether or not you even read the article before you copied and pasted the link. Your obsession with communities like The Fandom Menace, Comicsgate, and whatever else suits these culture rebels who speak the loudest and their fans appears to be very problematic and unhealthy. That because anyone who criticizes a piece of media like She-Hulk: Attorney At Law or anything else that you enjoy must either be a scam artist with toxic beliefs or a person with toxic beliefs who aligns with said scam artist with toxic beliefs is so ego-driven and immature, it really does raise an eyebrow. Then give some examples.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 31, 2023 13:28:43 GMT
formersamhmd ... What makes you think you have better judgment on what is and what isn't appropriate for a child under the age of eight, let alone the age of four, compared to their parents and guardians? Are you a parent? Are they in school? Have they graduated already? Your attempts at trying to save face are coming across as a mix of hysterical and sad. You are wrong about A Winkle in Time and John Carter being too familiar with the public conscious that any cinematic retelling of the stories was bound to fail at the box office. You are wrong about the financial income of Ghostbusters 2016, and wrong about its director's comments about making a sequel to it. You are wrong about Lightyear having a "respectable" box office, and Strange World having streaming numbers that are worth bragging about. And instead of admitting that you are wrong, you are trying your best to draw attention away from your inaccuracy of your statements and really failing to come out clean. The fact that you shared a link to an article that doesn't support your claim that manga has never outsold comic books produced in the United States is pretty mind-boggling and really opens the conversation on whether or not you even read the article before you copied and pasted the link. Your obsession with communities like The Fandom Menace, Comicsgate, and whatever else suits these culture rebels who speak the loudest and their fans appears to be very problematic and unhealthy. That because anyone who criticizes a piece of media like She-Hulk: Attorney At Law or anything else that you enjoy must either be a scam artist with toxic beliefs or a person with toxic beliefs who aligns with said scam artist with toxic beliefs is so ego-driven and immature, it really does raise an eyebrow. Then give some examples. I know that, historically, smothering a kid and over-protecting them from harmless things isn't necessary. I've seen parents who had no problem showing their kids R Rated movies when they were around 5 years old.
What made A Wrinkle in Time so effective for its time was that it was one of the first true Supernatural YA stories, but with the glut over the last 15 years it no longer stands out that well due to the entire genre it helped spawn. John Carter, same. It's the reverse of Superman, but no longer has anything to make it more distinct.
Ghostbusters 2016 wasn't the massive bomb the Fandom Menace keeps saying it was, and Feig simply changed his mind a few times over the sequel. Strange World, for all the talk of it "Being so awful" wouldn't have gotten a decent Streaming reception after if it was really that bad. It's the same with Eternals, which also became one of the biggest MCU streaming hits afterwards. And I brought up why Lightyear couldn't rely on the Toy Story connection.
The link states that the whole thing about all manga outselling all comics was false/exaggerated. Despite what the Fandom Menace says.
The Fandom Menace are the ones who have ruined several fandoms, they contaminate and corrupt and spread their poison and hold IPs back from truly growing.
Okay, Nerdrotic's complaints about Wakanda Forever. Everything he complained about was explained in the movie, like how Shuri could be fine after being impaled. The Drinker complains about how it's never explained why Wanda is doing what she's doing when it's clearly explained in the movie. But neither of them WATCHED the movie to begin with, just like how the Drinker says he watched Ms Marvel and interviewed people but he never did and just lied about it.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 31, 2023 13:58:39 GMT
formersamhmd ... What makes you think you have better judgment on what is and what isn't appropriate for a child under the age of eight, let alone the age of four, compared to their parents and guardians? Are you a parent? Are they in school? Have they graduated already? Your attempts at trying to save face are coming across as a mix of hysterical and sad. You are wrong about A Winkle in Time and John Carter being too familiar with the public conscious that any cinematic retelling of the stories was bound to fail at the box office. You are wrong about the financial income of Ghostbusters 2016, and wrong about its director's comments about making a sequel to it. You are wrong about Lightyear having a "respectable" box office, and Strange World having streaming numbers that are worth bragging about. And instead of admitting that you are wrong, you are trying your best to draw attention away from your inaccuracy of your statements and really failing to come out clean. The fact that you shared a link to an article that doesn't support your claim that manga has never outsold comic books produced in the United States is pretty mind-boggling and really opens the conversation on whether or not you even read the article before you copied and pasted the link. Your obsession with communities like The Fandom Menace, Comicsgate, and whatever else suits these culture rebels who speak the loudest and their fans appears to be very problematic and unhealthy. That because anyone who criticizes a piece of media like She-Hulk: Attorney At Law or anything else that you enjoy must either be a scam artist with toxic beliefs or a person with toxic beliefs who aligns with said scam artist with toxic beliefs is so ego-driven and immature, it really does raise an eyebrow. Then give some examples. I know that, historically, smothering a kid and over-protecting them from harmless things isn't necessary. I've seen parents who had no problem showing their kids R Rated movies when they were around 5 years old.
What made A Wrinkle in Time so effective for its time was that it was one of the first true Supernatural YA stories, but with the glut over the last 15 years it no longer stands out that well due to the entire genre it helped spawn. John Carter, same. It's the reverse of Superman, but no longer has anything to make it more distinct.
Ghostbusters 2016 wasn't the massive bomb the Fandom Menace keeps saying it was, and Feig simply changed his mind a few times over the sequel. Strange World, for all the talk of it "Being so awful" wouldn't have gotten a decent Streaming reception after if it was really that bad. It's the same with Eternals, which also became one of the biggest MCU streaming hits afterwards. And I brought up why Lightyear couldn't rely on the Toy Story connection.
The link states that the whole thing about all manga outselling all comics was false/exaggerated. Despite what the Fandom Menace says.
The Fandom Menace are the ones who have ruined several fandoms, they contaminate and corrupt and spread their poison and hold IPs back from truly growing.
Okay, Nerdrotic's complaints about Wakanda Forever. Everything he complained about was explained in the movie, like how Shuri could be fine after being impaled. The Drinker complains about how it's never explained why Wanda is doing what she's doing when it's clearly explained in the movie. But neither of them WATCHED the movie to begin with, just like how the Drinker says he watched Ms Marvel and interviewed people but he never did and just lied about it.
Speaking of which, how did Shuri survive after getting impaled while Killmonger didn’t?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 31, 2023 15:34:42 GMT
I know that, historically, smothering a kid and over-protecting them from harmless things isn't necessary. I've seen parents who had no problem showing their kids R Rated movies when they were around 5 years old.
What made A Wrinkle in Time so effective for its time was that it was one of the first true Supernatural YA stories, but with the glut over the last 15 years it no longer stands out that well due to the entire genre it helped spawn. John Carter, same. It's the reverse of Superman, but no longer has anything to make it more distinct.
Ghostbusters 2016 wasn't the massive bomb the Fandom Menace keeps saying it was, and Feig simply changed his mind a few times over the sequel. Strange World, for all the talk of it "Being so awful" wouldn't have gotten a decent Streaming reception after if it was really that bad. It's the same with Eternals, which also became one of the biggest MCU streaming hits afterwards. And I brought up why Lightyear couldn't rely on the Toy Story connection.
The link states that the whole thing about all manga outselling all comics was false/exaggerated. Despite what the Fandom Menace says.
The Fandom Menace are the ones who have ruined several fandoms, they contaminate and corrupt and spread their poison and hold IPs back from truly growing.
Okay, Nerdrotic's complaints about Wakanda Forever. Everything he complained about was explained in the movie, like how Shuri could be fine after being impaled. The Drinker complains about how it's never explained why Wanda is doing what she's doing when it's clearly explained in the movie. But neither of them WATCHED the movie to begin with, just like how the Drinker says he watched Ms Marvel and interviewed people but he never did and just lied about it.
Speaking of which, how did Shuri survive after getting impaled while Killmonger didn’t? Shuri's Heart-Shaped Herb was created using the traces of genetic material on the bracelet/necklace that Namor gave her, meaning it was using the unique Vibranium flower Namor's people used to transform themselves centuries ago. Namor's people were shown to have regenerative powers because of their mutations, and that regenerative power was now part of Shuri.
Killmonger also could have survived his injuries easily, he refused treatment.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 31, 2023 17:00:28 GMT
Speaking of which, how did Shuri survive after getting impaled while Killmonger didn’t? Shuri's Heart-Shaped Herb was created using the traces of genetic material on the bracelet/necklace that Namor gave her, meaning it was using the unique Vibranium flower Namor's people used to transform themselves centuries ago. Namor's people were shown to have regenerative powers because of their mutations, and that regenerative power was now part of Shuri.
Killmonger also could have survived his injuries easily, he refused treatment.
I also wonder if Killmonger got stabbed in a more vital organ and that’s what led to his death when he removed that spear from his own body. Perhaps an organ injury that Shuri sustained wasn’t nearly as vital as the one that Killmonger sustained?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 31, 2023 20:49:40 GMT
Shuri's Heart-Shaped Herb was created using the traces of genetic material on the bracelet/necklace that Namor gave her, meaning it was using the unique Vibranium flower Namor's people used to transform themselves centuries ago. Namor's people were shown to have regenerative powers because of their mutations, and that regenerative power was now part of Shuri.
Killmonger also could have survived his injuries easily, he refused treatment.
I also wonder if Killmonger got stabbed in a more vital organ and that’s what led to his death when he removed that spear from his own body. Perhaps an organ injury that Shuri sustained wasn’t nearly as vital as the one that Killmonger sustained? And/Or her newfound healing powers saved her.
I'm sick of people complaining that all it took to stop Namor was "Getting dry". That's like saying Superman's Kryptonite weakness is lame.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 2, 2023 3:58:25 GMT
formersamhmd ... What makes you think you have better judgment on what is and what isn't appropriate for a child under the age of eight, let alone the age of four, compared to their parents and guardians? Are you a parent? Are they in school? Have they graduated already? Your attempts at trying to save face are coming across as a mix of hysterical and sad. You are wrong about A Winkle in Time and John Carter being too familiar with the public conscious that any cinematic retelling of the stories was bound to fail at the box office. You are wrong about the financial income of Ghostbusters 2016, and wrong about its director's comments about making a sequel to it. You are wrong about Lightyear having a "respectable" box office, and Strange World having streaming numbers that are worth bragging about. And instead of admitting that you are wrong, you are trying your best to draw attention away from your inaccuracy of your statements and really failing to come out clean. The fact that you shared a link to an article that doesn't support your claim that manga has never outsold comic books produced in the United States is pretty mind-boggling and really opens the conversation on whether or not you even read the article before you copied and pasted the link. Your obsession with communities like The Fandom Menace, Comicsgate, and whatever else suits these culture rebels who speak the loudest and their fans appears to be very problematic and unhealthy. That because anyone who criticizes a piece of media like She-Hulk: Attorney At Law or anything else that you enjoy must either be a scam artist with toxic beliefs or a person with toxic beliefs who aligns with said scam artist with toxic beliefs is so ego-driven and immature, it really does raise an eyebrow. Then give some examples. I know that, historically, smothering a kid and over-protecting them from harmless things isn't necessary. I've seen parents who had no problem showing their kids R Rated movies when they were around 5 years old.
What made A Wrinkle in Time so effective for its time was that it was one of the first true Supernatural YA stories, but with the glut over the last 15 years it no longer stands out that well due to the entire genre it helped spawn. John Carter, same. It's the reverse of Superman, but no longer has anything to make it more distinct.
Ghostbusters 2016 wasn't the massive bomb the Fandom Menace keeps saying it was, and Feig simply changed his mind a few times over the sequel. Strange World, for all the talk of it "Being so awful" wouldn't have gotten a decent Streaming reception after if it was really that bad. It's the same with Eternals, which also became one of the biggest MCU streaming hits afterwards. And I brought up why Lightyear couldn't rely on the Toy Story connection.
The link states that the whole thing about all manga outselling all comics was false/exaggerated. Despite what the Fandom Menace says.
The Fandom Menace are the ones who have ruined several fandoms, they contaminate and corrupt and spread their poison and hold IPs back from truly growing.
Okay, Nerdrotic's complaints about Wakanda Forever. Everything he complained about was explained in the movie, like how Shuri could be fine after being impaled. The Drinker complains about how it's never explained why Wanda is doing what she's doing when it's clearly explained in the movie. But neither of them WATCHED the movie to begin with, just like how the Drinker says he watched Ms Marvel and interviewed people but he never did and just lied about it.
formersamhmd... Parents showing their toddler an R rated film is something I am opposed to as well, because they are too young to understand the subject matter and are too impressionable. A horror movie will likely give them nightmares, and an action movie will likely encourage them to imitate the stunts and behavior of the leads and assume they are as indestructible. Your arguments for why 2018's A Wrinkle in Time and 2012's John Carter tanking as they did at the box office just do not carry enough weight, as other influential literary genre works have been illustrated as financially successful and still resonate today despite the years that have gone by since creation. Why neither film was a success entirely goes to Disney's unimpressive marketing strategy and the lackluster filmmaking, clearly neither Ava Duvernay or Andrew Stanton were the right choice to make these movies to begin with, and the final products show it. Your attempts to save face just become more comical the more you try, sorry to say. Your claims of 2016's Ghostbusters being a hit at the box office and Paul Feig having no interest in making a follow-up have been easily disproven. "Good" to "decent" now for streaming numbers in regard to Strange World doesn't change the fact that the numbers are anything but amazing. You previously argued that Lightyear had a respectable box office when it definitely did not and now you are pinning the blame as to why on its lacking connective tissue with the Toy Story franchise. If I were in your shoes, I would consider moving on from here and admitting to trying to make a strike but not hitting any pin in the lane. The link you shared called into question the sales numbers of one manga title, not all on the marketplace, and states that manga has been outselling United States created comic book titles in recent years, which proved your claim of that never being the case to be false. Your attempts to try and justify your obsession and bias of such communities of cultural rebels isn't making you look like the good guy here, for you are displaying bully-like behavior towards others who do not have the same opinions on media that you do, and you keep on categorizing them wrongly. Neither of them? Nerdrotic is one person. I haven't seen his stream on the movie, but a lot of people made similar complaints, even those who appreciated the movie. And The Critical Drinker did watch Ms. Marvel and you can find his interview with the series directors on one of his channels.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 2, 2023 12:40:55 GMT
I know that, historically, smothering a kid and over-protecting them from harmless things isn't necessary. I've seen parents who had no problem showing their kids R Rated movies when they were around 5 years old.
What made A Wrinkle in Time so effective for its time was that it was one of the first true Supernatural YA stories, but with the glut over the last 15 years it no longer stands out that well due to the entire genre it helped spawn. John Carter, same. It's the reverse of Superman, but no longer has anything to make it more distinct.
Ghostbusters 2016 wasn't the massive bomb the Fandom Menace keeps saying it was, and Feig simply changed his mind a few times over the sequel. Strange World, for all the talk of it "Being so awful" wouldn't have gotten a decent Streaming reception after if it was really that bad. It's the same with Eternals, which also became one of the biggest MCU streaming hits afterwards. And I brought up why Lightyear couldn't rely on the Toy Story connection.
The link states that the whole thing about all manga outselling all comics was false/exaggerated. Despite what the Fandom Menace says.
The Fandom Menace are the ones who have ruined several fandoms, they contaminate and corrupt and spread their poison and hold IPs back from truly growing.
Okay, Nerdrotic's complaints about Wakanda Forever. Everything he complained about was explained in the movie, like how Shuri could be fine after being impaled. The Drinker complains about how it's never explained why Wanda is doing what she's doing when it's clearly explained in the movie. But neither of them WATCHED the movie to begin with, just like how the Drinker says he watched Ms Marvel and interviewed people but he never did and just lied about it.
formersamhmd ... Parents showing their toddler an R rated film is something I am opposed to as well, because they are too young to understand the subject matter and are too impressionable. A horror movie will likely give them nightmares, and an action movie will likely encourage them to imitate the stunts and behavior of the leads and assume they are as indestructible. Your arguments for why 2018's A Wrinkle in Time and 2012's John Carter tanking as they did at the box office just do not carry enough weight, as other influential literary genre works have been illustrated as financially successful and still resonate today despite the years that have gone by since creation. Why neither film was a success entirely goes to Disney's unimpressive marketing strategy and the lackluster filmmaking, clearly neither Ava Duvernay or Andrew Stanton were the right choice to make these movies to begin with, and the final products show it. Your attempts to save face just become more comical the more you try, sorry to say. Your claims of 2016's Ghostbusters being a hit at the box office and Paul Feig having no interest in making a follow-up have been easily disproven. "Good" to "decent" now for streaming numbers in regard to Strange World doesn't change the fact that the numbers are anything but amazing. You previously argued that Lightyear had a respectable box office when it definitely did not and now you are pinning the blame as to why on its lacking connective tissue with the Toy Story franchise. If I were in your shoes, I would consider moving on from here and admitting to trying to make a strike but not hitting any pin in the lane. The link you shared called into question the sales numbers of one manga title, not all on the marketplace, and states that manga has been outselling United States created comic book titles in recent years, which proved your claim of that never being the case to be false. Your attempts to try and justify your obsession and bias of such communities of cultural rebels isn't making you look like the good guy here, for you are displaying bully-like behavior towards others who do not have the same opinions on media that you do, and you keep on categorizing them wrongly. Neither of them? Nerdrotic is one person. I haven't seen his stream on the movie, but a lot of people made similar complaints, even those who appreciated the movie. And The Critical Drinker did watch Ms. Marvel and you can find his interview with the series directors on one of his channels. Which doesn't stop it from happening frequently, and I don't see anyone complaining about kids being exposed to that stuff because it's "degenerate and immoral" the way kids apparently just being told "Sometimes there's 2 dads or 2 moms, but that's okay" will ruin them.
Yes, the original works are still regarded well. But there's a reason neither got major adaptations till recently, because neither really would have much impact anymore to new audiences unfamiliar with the original works.
Was GB 2016 a bomb? No? Then that's all there is to it.
Strange World having good streaming numbers shows it's not the "amoral and degenerate" film it was accused of being.
Lightyear didn't bomb and the lack of making the 1 Billion Club is down to how it wasn't connected enough to Toy Story. That's why there were complaints about Chris Evans voicing Buzz, it disconnected this Buzz from Toy Story more.
They're the ones who harass and dox anyone who refuses to tow their party line, I just refuse to indulge Outrage Culture. They're Grifters and that's all there is to it.
He says that, his followers believe it, no one bothers fact checking and proving him wrong which means his poison is spread around.
The Drinker didn't watch it, that interview is fake.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 2, 2023 21:56:39 GMT
formersamhmd ... I have, every married couple I know does not want their five-year-old to see R rated movies and TV-MA rated television content till they are much older because of their young age. No, that is not the reason why it took so long finally to adapt both works into major motion pictures, the problem, especially in the case of John Carter of Mars, was because of budgetary setbacks, change in studio management, and rights complications. There were even attempts at adapting Burroughs going back to the 1930's when animator Bob Clampett was hoping to turn A Princess of Mars into the first feature length animated feature, Both movies failed at the box office and didn't impress movie goers because Disney marketed them pretty badly and the movies themselves just were not very good, A Wrinkle in Time moreso than John Carter. Ghostbusters '16 wasn't a bomb but it wasn't a smash hit, either. It fell very short on the profit the studio was looking for, but you said it made satisfactory profit, which it didn't. Lightyear did tank, it didn't have a "respectable box office" as you initially claimed. And, once again, Strange World's streaming numbers are nothing to brag about, interest just isn't that strong. (Repeat) The link you shared called into question the sales numbers of one manga title, not all on the marketplace, and states that manga has been outselling United States created comic book titles in recent years, which proved your claim of that never being the case to be false. (Addition) The Twitter thread you have shared does not talk about manga as a whole and only Demon Slayer, which is just one title. Once again, your attempts to justify your obsession and bias of such people does not make you look like the good guy in this situation, as you are not displaying better character than them as you describe. Anyone who disagrees with you about piece of media like the She-Hulk series is someone who has outdated, and problematic views and you will script fiction to explain their stance. Unless someone really shares your dislike towards communities like The Fandom Menace and Comicsgate and whatnot, most people will read your posts and ask the question if you have the high ground why sink as low? No, other people have made the same complaint in their comments about the movie, it didn't start with Nerdrotic's live stream. He did see it, and the interview was not a fake,
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 2, 2023 22:10:46 GMT
formersamhmd ... I have, every married couple I know does not want their five-year-old to see R rated movies and TV-MA rated television content till they are much older because of their young age. No, that is not the reason why it took so long finally to adapt both works into major motion pictures, the problem, especially in the case of John Carter of Mars, was because of budgetary setbacks, change in studio management, and rights complications. There were even attempts at adapting Burroughs going back to the 1930's when animator Bob Clampett was hoping to turn A Princess of Mars into the first feature length animated feature, Both movies failed at the box office and didn't impress movie goers because Disney marketed them pretty badly and the movies themselves just were not very good, A Wrinkle in Time moreso than John Carter. Ghostbusters '16 wasn't a bomb but it wasn't a smash hit, either. It fell very short on the profit the studio was looking for, but you said it made satisfactory profit, which it didn't. Lightyear did tank, it didn't have a "respectable box office" as you initially claimed. And, once again, Strange World's streaming numbers are nothing to brag about, interest just isn't that strong. (Repeat) The link you shared called into question the sales numbers of one manga title, not all on the marketplace, and states that manga has been outselling United States created comic book titles in recent years, which proved your claim of that never being the case to be false. (Addition) The Twitter thread you have shared does not talk about manga as a whole and only Demon Slayer, which is just one title. Once again, your attempts to justify your obsession and bias of such people does not make you look like the good guy in this situation, as you are not displaying better character than them as you describe. Anyone who disagrees with you about piece of media like the She-Hulk series is someone who has outdated, and problematic views and you will script fiction to explain their stance. Unless someone really shares your dislike towards communities like The Fandom Menace and Comicsgate and whatnot, most people will read your posts and ask the question if you have the high ground why sink as low? No, other people have made the same complaint in their comments about the movie, it didn't start with Nerdrotic's live stream. He did see it, and the interview was not a fake, I've seen couples of my own who don't care. They're fine with R Rated violence, but hypocritically stuff like homosexuality is supposed to be worse than bloody murder.
If they'd adapted back in the 1930s then it would've been better received, due to still being "fresh" enough. Not by 2012. By the time both John Carter and Wrinkle in Time got adapted, their source material wasn't viable enough for a profitable adaptation.
GB2016 didn't bomb and made more than it cost to make, with all it had going against it that's a success. Lightyear didn't link itself enough to Toy Story (casting Chris Evans actually rose a stink, despite Chris Evans being popular) yet it wasn't the megaflop it's made out to be. And if Strange World was really the "amoral and degenerate" film it was condemned as, it wouldn't have any streams. But it had a respectable viewing.
Demon Slayer was the manga in question used to fuel the fake reports of Mangas outselling comics, so the Twitter thread shows how the entire argument was based on falsities.
I'm playing by their rules, seeing how Grifter fans like it. Not that I expect them to learn anything.
"Anyone who disagrees with you about piece of media like the She-Hulk series is someone who has outdated, and problematic views"
They are, leave it to the She-Hulk haters we'd still be living in the 1950s.
"No, other people have made the same complaint in their comments about the movie"
Then they too haven't bothered actually watching the movie.
A fake video with more fake information. Typical from the Drinker.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 3, 2023 8:15:32 GMT
formersamhmd ... I have, every married couple I know does not want their five-year-old to see R rated movies and TV-MA rated television content till they are much older because of their young age. No, that is not the reason why it took so long finally to adapt both works into major motion pictures, the problem, especially in the case of John Carter of Mars, was because of budgetary setbacks, change in studio management, and rights complications. There were even attempts at adapting Burroughs going back to the 1930's when animator Bob Clampett was hoping to turn A Princess of Mars into the first feature length animated feature, Both movies failed at the box office and didn't impress movie goers because Disney marketed them pretty badly and the movies themselves just were not very good, A Wrinkle in Time moreso than John Carter. Ghostbusters '16 wasn't a bomb but it wasn't a smash hit, either. It fell very short on the profit the studio was looking for, but you said it made satisfactory profit, which it didn't. Lightyear did tank, it didn't have a "respectable box office" as you initially claimed. And, once again, Strange World's streaming numbers are nothing to brag about, interest just isn't that strong. (Repeat) The link you shared called into question the sales numbers of one manga title, not all on the marketplace, and states that manga has been outselling United States created comic book titles in recent years, which proved your claim of that never being the case to be false. (Addition) The Twitter thread you have shared does not talk about manga as a whole and only Demon Slayer, which is just one title. Once again, your attempts to justify your obsession and bias of such people does not make you look like the good guy in this situation, as you are not displaying better character than them as you describe. Anyone who disagrees with you about piece of media like the She-Hulk series is someone who has outdated, and problematic views and you will script fiction to explain their stance. Unless someone really shares your dislike towards communities like The Fandom Menace and Comicsgate and whatnot, most people will read your posts and ask the question if you have the high ground why sink as low? No, other people have made the same complaint in their comments about the movie, it didn't start with Nerdrotic's live stream. He did see it, and the interview was not a fake, I've seen couples of my own who don't care. They're fine with R Rated violence, but hypocritically stuff like homosexuality is supposed to be worse than bloody murder.
If they'd adapted back in the 1930s then it would've been better received, due to still being "fresh" enough. Not by 2012. By the time both John Carter and Wrinkle in Time got adapted, their source material wasn't viable enough for a profitable adaptation.
GB2016 didn't bomb and made more than it cost to make, with all it had going against it that's a success. Lightyear didn't link itself enough to Toy Story (casting Chris Evans actually rose a stink, despite Chris Evans being popular) yet it wasn't the megaflop it's made out to be. And if Strange World was really the "amoral and degenerate" film it was condemned as, it wouldn't have any streams. But it had a respectable viewing.
Demon Slayer was the manga in question used to fuel the fake reports of Mangas outselling comics, so the Twitter thread shows how the entire argument was based on falsities.
I'm playing by their rules, seeing how Grifter fans like it. Not that I expect them to learn anything.
"Anyone who disagrees with you about piece of media like the She-Hulk series is someone who has outdated, and problematic views"
They are, leave it to the She-Hulk haters we'd still be living in the 1950s.
"No, other people have made the same complaint in their comments about the movie"
Then they too haven't bothered actually watching the movie.
A fake video with more fake information. Typical from the Drinker.
formersamhmd... I am certain there are parents who are like that, and I do find their judgment to be questionable but as stated previously I am of the belief that media that is not intended for children should not be allowed to be seen by them till they are older and not as easily impressionable. I disagree, make a better movie with a better sense of style and spectacle and you can present something old as something new and engage the consumer. A movie needs to earn two-to-three times its budget, which includes marketing expenses, to be considered as a solid profit earner, Ghostbusters 2016 fell short of that. Neither did Lightyear have a respectable box office as you initially claimed, and Strange World's streaming numbers are, once again, nothing to be really impressed about. But it was only one manga, your initial claim was that no manga has ever outsold a comic book produced in the United States, which the original source you linked admits having occurred, thus going against your statement. An example of a self-own. And how is that working out for you? Twice on this specific section of the website, you have displayed bullying behavior, cynical behavior, and egotism. You keep making bold statements but do not really offer solid substance to back up your claims and have been called out and debunked to such a point that you have made many attempts to save face. Your cynicism and ego appear to make it difficult for you to be fair in conversation. Sorry, but the world doesn't revolve around you. In fairness, in a movie that has a lot going on in it you may miss a key detail or two. People have become very attached to the streaming model which allows them to go back and stop the picture with their device while at the theatres it doesn't stop playing unless there is a technical glitch with the projector. Going back to 2012, it took some people another showing or two to realize that Loki's eyes were not green but blue, and thus was enticed by the Tesseract that amplified certain behavioral traits. How is it a fake video with fake information?
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 3, 2023 15:57:44 GMT
I've seen couples of my own who don't care. They're fine with R Rated violence, but hypocritically stuff like homosexuality is supposed to be worse than bloody murder.
If they'd adapted back in the 1930s then it would've been better received, due to still being "fresh" enough. Not by 2012. By the time both John Carter and Wrinkle in Time got adapted, their source material wasn't viable enough for a profitable adaptation.
GB2016 didn't bomb and made more than it cost to make, with all it had going against it that's a success. Lightyear didn't link itself enough to Toy Story (casting Chris Evans actually rose a stink, despite Chris Evans being popular) yet it wasn't the megaflop it's made out to be. And if Strange World was really the "amoral and degenerate" film it was condemned as, it wouldn't have any streams. But it had a respectable viewing.
Demon Slayer was the manga in question used to fuel the fake reports of Mangas outselling comics, so the Twitter thread shows how the entire argument was based on falsities.
I'm playing by their rules, seeing how Grifter fans like it. Not that I expect them to learn anything.
"Anyone who disagrees with you about piece of media like the She-Hulk series is someone who has outdated, and problematic views"
They are, leave it to the She-Hulk haters we'd still be living in the 1950s.
"No, other people have made the same complaint in their comments about the movie"
Then they too haven't bothered actually watching the movie.
A fake video with more fake information. Typical from the Drinker.
formersamhmd ... I am certain there are parents who are like that, and I do find their judgment to be questionable but as stated previously I am of the belief that media that is not intended for children should not be allowed to be seen by them till they are older and not as easily impressionable. I disagree, make a better movie with a better sense of style and spectacle and you can present something old as something new and engage the consumer. A movie needs to earn two-to-three times its budget, which includes marketing expenses, to be considered as a solid profit earner, Ghostbusters 2016 fell short of that. Neither did Lightyear have a respectable box office as you initially claimed, and Strange World's streaming numbers are, once again, nothing to be really impressed about. But it was only one manga, your initial claim was that no manga has ever outsold a comic book produced in the United States, which the original source you linked admits having occurred, thus going against your statement. An example of a self-own. And how is that working out for you? Twice on this specific section of the website, you have displayed bullying behavior, cynical behavior, and egotism. You keep making bold statements but do not really offer solid substance to back up your claims and have been called out and debunked to such a point that you have made many attempts to save face. Your cynicism and ego appear to make it difficult for you to be fair in conversation. Sorry, but the world doesn't revolve around you. In fairness, in a movie that has a lot going on in it you may miss a key detail or two. People have become very attached to the streaming model which allows them to go back and stop the picture with their device while at the theatres it doesn't stop playing unless there is a technical glitch with the projector. Going back to 2012, it took some people another showing or two to realize that Loki's eyes were not green but blue, and thus was enticed by the Tesseract that amplified certain behavioral traits. How is it a fake video with fake information? I'm simply bringing up the utter hypocrisy of parents who are fine with R Rated violence but somehow think that seeing a homosexual will destroy their children.
Having seen the John Carter movie, it did have style and spectacle. Didn't save it. A Wrinkle in Time however, no longer has anything to truly offer a modern crowd.
With everything it had going against it, GB2016 did break even then. Lightyear wasn't a Box Office Bomb either although it did fail to enure more of audience by tying itself to Toy Story more. And if Strange World was truly as "degenerate" and "amoral" as it was accused of being, it wouldn't have any streaming numbers.
The source never says that any manga ever outsold comics, actually. And Demon Slayer never did either. It was all fake propaganda put out by bitter Comicsgaters, outdated folks who hate that the world moved on without them.
I think I've succeeded in showing you how these Grifters are and what it's like for anyone who doesn't like their poison. By playing the game their way.
Better than living in the 1950s.
I'm being as "fair" to them as they are to the movie. The answer was there but they were too willfully blind to see it.
He never watched the show (which is why he never did a follow up video to his idiotic first impression) and never interviewed anyone.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 4, 2023 8:18:51 GMT
formersamhmd ... I am certain there are parents who are like that, and I do find their judgment to be questionable but as stated previously I am of the belief that media that is not intended for children should not be allowed to be seen by them till they are older and not as easily impressionable. I disagree, make a better movie with a better sense of style and spectacle and you can present something old as something new and engage the consumer. A movie needs to earn two-to-three times its budget, which includes marketing expenses, to be considered as a solid profit earner, Ghostbusters 2016 fell short of that. Neither did Lightyear have a respectable box office as you initially claimed, and Strange World's streaming numbers are, once again, nothing to be really impressed about. But it was only one manga, your initial claim was that no manga has ever outsold a comic book produced in the United States, which the original source you linked admits having occurred, thus going against your statement. An example of a self-own. And how is that working out for you? Twice on this specific section of the website, you have displayed bullying behavior, cynical behavior, and egotism. You keep making bold statements but do not really offer solid substance to back up your claims and have been called out and debunked to such a point that you have made many attempts to save face. Your cynicism and ego appear to make it difficult for you to be fair in conversation. Sorry, but the world doesn't revolve around you. In fairness, in a movie that has a lot going on in it you may miss a key detail or two. People have become very attached to the streaming model which allows them to go back and stop the picture with their device while at the theatres it doesn't stop playing unless there is a technical glitch with the projector. Going back to 2012, it took some people another showing or two to realize that Loki's eyes were not green but blue, and thus was enticed by the Tesseract that amplified certain behavioral traits. How is it a fake video with fake information? I'm simply bringing up the utter hypocrisy of parents who are fine with R Rated violence but somehow think that seeing a homosexual will destroy their children.
Having seen the John Carter movie, it did have style and spectacle. Didn't save it. A Wrinkle in Time however, no longer has anything to truly offer a modern crowd.
With everything it had going against it, GB2016 did break even then. Lightyear wasn't a Box Office Bomb either although it did fail to enure more of audience by tying itself to Toy Story more. And if Strange World was truly as "degenerate" and "amoral" as it was accused of being, it wouldn't have any streaming numbers.
The source never says that any manga ever outsold comics, actually. And Demon Slayer never did either. It was all fake propaganda put out by bitter Comicsgaters, outdated folks who hate that the world moved on without them.
I think I've succeeded in showing you how these Grifters are and what it's like for anyone who doesn't like their poison. By playing the game their way.
Better than living in the 1950s.
I'm being as "fair" to them as they are to the movie. The answer was there but they were too willfully blind to see it.
He never watched the show (which is why he never did a follow up video to his idiotic first impression) and never interviewed anyone.
formersamhmd... That is example of hypocrisy, but nine out of 10 parents don't want their children under specific age to be exposed to either something like the Blue's Clues pride parade segment or an R rated film with intense violence. The John Carter movie lacked style and its spectacle felt pretty empty most of the time. The filmmakers could have taken the opportunity to present something that echoed a Frank Frazzetta painting, which Robert Rodriguz and Kerry Conran were hoping to achieve when they were on the project, but instead they made it too clean in presentation and the color grading was pretty dull. Not only that, but it lacked star power - Taylor Kitsch was, and still isn't, a leading man. His most successful work as an actor has been as supporting characters in programs like Friday Night Lights and The Terminal List. The movie was also released the same time as 21 Jump Street, which was more acclaimed. Fans of the Ghostbusters property were vocal in their dislike of the 2016 reboot, but beyond that the movie had received tons of support in the press, to the point where the message was made that if you were against the existence of the picture then you must be, in summary, a bad person. It wasn't a smash hit, but it wasn't a nuclear bomb at the box office, either. Lightyear's budget was 200.0 million USD, it made around 226.4 million at the box office, which is definitely not respectable numbers, and hence why many publications declared it a flop. Streaming a movie doesn't necessarily mean the people who clicked "play" actually enjoyed it though, unless the numbers you are looking at suggest rewatch numbers. You link you shared admits that some manga has outperformed American produced comic book titles, whereas you claimed it never had. My talking point from earlier did not specify a specific title like Demon Slayer. You have only succeeded in showing me and others that you have an unhealthy obsession with certain people online, are a bully, and are a very cynical and ego-driven person. He did watch the series, and the video proves your claim false - unless you can provide solid proof that that whole interview is fancy Final Cut Pro X / Premiere Pro editing magic.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 4, 2023 13:55:20 GMT
I'm simply bringing up the utter hypocrisy of parents who are fine with R Rated violence but somehow think that seeing a homosexual will destroy their children.
Having seen the John Carter movie, it did have style and spectacle. Didn't save it. A Wrinkle in Time however, no longer has anything to truly offer a modern crowd.
With everything it had going against it, GB2016 did break even then. Lightyear wasn't a Box Office Bomb either although it did fail to enure more of audience by tying itself to Toy Story more. And if Strange World was truly as "degenerate" and "amoral" as it was accused of being, it wouldn't have any streaming numbers.
The source never says that any manga ever outsold comics, actually. And Demon Slayer never did either. It was all fake propaganda put out by bitter Comicsgaters, outdated folks who hate that the world moved on without them.
I think I've succeeded in showing you how these Grifters are and what it's like for anyone who doesn't like their poison. By playing the game their way.
Better than living in the 1950s.
I'm being as "fair" to them as they are to the movie. The answer was there but they were too willfully blind to see it.
He never watched the show (which is why he never did a follow up video to his idiotic first impression) and never interviewed anyone.
formersamhmd ... That is example of hypocrisy, but nine out of 10 parents don't want their children under specific age to be exposed to either something like the Blue's Clues pride parade segment or an R rated film with intense violence. The John Carter movie lacked style and its spectacle felt pretty empty most of the time. The filmmakers could have taken the opportunity to present something that echoed a Frank Frazzetta painting, which Robert Rodriguz and Kerry Conran were hoping to achieve when they were on the project, but instead they made it too clean in presentation and the color grading was pretty dull. Not only that, but it lacked star power - Taylor Kitsch was, and still isn't, a leading man. His most successful work as an actor has been as supporting characters in programs like Friday Night Lights and The Terminal List. The movie was also released the same time as 21 Jump Street, which was more acclaimed. Fans of the Ghostbusters property were vocal in their dislike of the 2016 reboot, but beyond that the movie had received tons of support in the press, to the point where the message was made that if you were against the existence of the picture then you must be, in summary, a bad person. It wasn't a smash hit, but it wasn't a nuclear bomb at the box office, either. Lightyear's budget was 200.0 million USD, it made around 226.4 million at the box office, which is definitely not respectable numbers, and hence why many publications declared it a flop. Streaming a movie doesn't necessarily mean the people who clicked "play" actually enjoyed it though, unless the numbers you are looking at suggest rewatch numbers. You link you shared admits that some manga has outperformed American produced comic book titles, whereas you claimed it never had. My talking point from earlier did not specify a specific title like Demon Slayer. You have only succeeded in showing me and others that you have an unhealthy obsession with certain people online, are a bully, and are a very cynical and ego-driven person. He did watch the series, and the video proves your claim false - unless you can provide solid proof that that whole interview is fancy Final Cut Pro X / Premiere Pro editing magic. These days, more and more parents are more okay with the R Rated stuff than the mere idea of homosexuals. Says a lot.
The 2011 Conan movie tried that, being more authentic to the original Conan stories than the Arnold movie was, still didn't work. Because that stuff just doesn't have an impact anymore. John Carter was doomed all along.
The GB Fans were epic in their misogyny and cruelty. Frankly, I think they deserved that backlash. Good, so we agree it wasn't the total bomb the Fandom Menace kept saying it was.
Lightyear, despite the bad press it had going in, still made over its budget.
If Strange World really was the "Degenerate, disgusting, amoral" movie it was accused of being, it would have no clicks at all.
Demon Slayer was the title that Comicsgate kept championing, despite it being a lie. That twitter link states the overall idea that Manga sells more was false to start with.
I dislike the Fandom Menace, they're a disease. Now you're getting the picture of what they're like, especially seeing how they threw the first punch in this overall "Fan War".
He didn't, if he did then he wouldn't have made such a boneheaded video based on nothing. It's a fake video he made after.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 4, 2023 18:37:33 GMT
formersamhmd ... That is example of hypocrisy, but nine out of 10 parents don't want their children under specific age to be exposed to either something like the Blue's Clues pride parade segment or an R rated film with intense violence. The John Carter movie lacked style and its spectacle felt pretty empty most of the time. The filmmakers could have taken the opportunity to present something that echoed a Frank Frazzetta painting, which Robert Rodriguz and Kerry Conran were hoping to achieve when they were on the project, but instead they made it too clean in presentation and the color grading was pretty dull. Not only that, but it lacked star power - Taylor Kitsch was, and still isn't, a leading man. His most successful work as an actor has been as supporting characters in programs like Friday Night Lights and The Terminal List. The movie was also released the same time as 21 Jump Street, which was more acclaimed. Fans of the Ghostbusters property were vocal in their dislike of the 2016 reboot, but beyond that the movie had received tons of support in the press, to the point where the message was made that if you were against the existence of the picture then you must be, in summary, a bad person. It wasn't a smash hit, but it wasn't a nuclear bomb at the box office, either. Lightyear's budget was 200.0 million USD, it made around 226.4 million at the box office, which is definitely not respectable numbers, and hence why many publications declared it a flop. Streaming a movie doesn't necessarily mean the people who clicked "play" actually enjoyed it though, unless the numbers you are looking at suggest rewatch numbers. You link you shared admits that some manga has outperformed American produced comic book titles, whereas you claimed it never had. My talking point from earlier did not specify a specific title like Demon Slayer. You have only succeeded in showing me and others that you have an unhealthy obsession with certain people online, are a bully, and are a very cynical and ego-driven person. He did watch the series, and the video proves your claim false - unless you can provide solid proof that that whole interview is fancy Final Cut Pro X / Premiere Pro editing magic. These days, more and more parents are more okay with the R Rated stuff than the mere idea of homosexuals. Says a lot.
The 2011 Conan movie tried that, being more authentic to the original Conan stories than the Arnold movie was, still didn't work. Because that stuff just doesn't have an impact anymore. John Carter was doomed all along.
The GB Fans were epic in their misogyny and cruelty. Frankly, I think they deserved that backlash. Good, so we agree it wasn't the total bomb the Fandom Menace kept saying it was.
Lightyear, despite the bad press it had going in, still made over its budget.
If Strange World really was the "Degenerate, disgusting, amoral" movie it was accused of being, it would have no clicks at all.
Demon Slayer was the title that Comicsgate kept championing, despite it being a lie. That twitter link states the overall idea that Manga sells more was false to start with.
I dislike the Fandom Menace, they're a disease. Now you're getting the picture of what they're like, especially seeing how they threw the first punch in this overall "Fan War".
He didn't, if he did then he wouldn't have made such a boneheaded video based on nothing. It's a fake video he made after.
formersamhmd... The 2011 Conan the Barbarian reboot failed because the marketing for the movie was very poor and the movie itself just wasn't very good, either. Conan as a character still resonates with consumers, hence the popularity of the recent comic book runs (Marvel had so much success they put out two different kinds of titles and complimentary titles as well as made Conan part of the Savage Avengers line-up). I didn't say that the 2016 reboot of Ghostbusters was a total bomb, I said it lost the studio money and wasn't a smash hit. Consumers generally didn't take a liking towards it; hence it didn't perform better and there is no sequel being made. I will also take the time to say that the misogyny and cruelty of people on the internet in reaction to the product was blown out of proportion by the trades to try and paint all opposition as bad people, going back to what was described as "fan baiting". Lightyear barely made over its budget, and still bombed. If that is your argument with Strange World, fair enough, but the point I was getting at is that its streaming numbers were not great. I didn't bring up Comicsgate whatsoever when I made the claim that manga was outselling American made comic book titles, and I didn't try to make it appear that that was the general case in the marketplace, either. Any evidence you have shown to back up your claim of manga never outselling an American made comic book highlights one specific manga (Demon Slayer) and the authors do not deny that some manga have done good numbers in sales. Once again, your attempt at justification are not making you look like the good guy in this scenario at all, because you have acted like a jerk and a bully. Honest or not, your display of character is not good. He did see the series, gave his opinion, and the video, which is not a fake (good luck trying to prove that it is all smoke and mirrors) was announced before he even have his thoughts on the Ms. Marvel program.
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