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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 24, 2023 4:03:16 GMT
I'd tell the 130 people that "Sorry, but I won't kick out these other people. You're all going to have to learn to share and co-exist until we can expand the place" instead of "I don't care if you worked your butts off to maintain this building, I'm throwing 30 of you out to die in the cold and I'm taking away all your food and clothes too."
It shows that even 5 years later the planet still had empty abandoned places, places prime for re-settlement for the Returned.
They weren't innocent people, they were complicit in the GRC's plans. I do think that Luke was in a tough spot and made a hard choice, pity he didn't think much about it.
They're both killers, at the end of the day. One had it a bit easier than the other. I suppose if the GRC all wore Nazi-Esque Uniforms and spoke with British Accents it would be easier to dislike them.
You'd tell the 130 people that they need to share, but who would be sharing with who? How do you make it fair? Would you pick 30 random people to share their place with the additional 30? Would you force the newly returned people to share their place? What would you do if they refused? How long would they need to share? 1 month? 1 year? 10 years? Forever? Who owns the units if they decided to sell it? Who gets the money? Have you actually considered the feasibility ofyour answer? And sure Endgame showed there was still empty space 5 years later... because it was still BEFORE people came back. That's not the situation we're discussing here. When are you going to realize that there's a massive difference before and after the blip was reversed? You're still not giving me a direct answer regarding Luke. Did he or did he not do the right thing by destroying the Deathstar in order to save an entire planet? To be totally fair, it would be random match ups. Or rotation. And yes, the newly returned people would have to figure out how to co-exist with those who remained. If they refuse, tell them tough noogies but that's just the way it is. They have to learn to get along. They share until the expansion is done, as opposed to doing no expansions.
If they sell and leave, they forfeit their right to the place, easy.
You put the returned people in the empty space, you don't ignore the empty space like the GRC did.
At that particular moment, he did a grey thing. Sacrificing some innocent lives to save other innocent lives. Not that SW ever brings up these issues.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 24, 2023 4:42:40 GMT
You'd tell the 130 people that they need to share, but who would be sharing with who? How do you make it fair? Would you pick 30 random people to share their place with the additional 30? Would you force the newly returned people to share their place? What would you do if they refused? How long would they need to share? 1 month? 1 year? 10 years? Forever? Who owns the units if they decided to sell it? Who gets the money? Have you actually considered the feasibility ofyour answer? And sure Endgame showed there was still empty space 5 years later... because it was still BEFORE people came back. That's not the situation we're discussing here. When are you going to realize that there's a massive difference before and after the blip was reversed? You're still not giving me a direct answer regarding Luke. Did he or did he not do the right thing by destroying the Deathstar in order to save an entire planet? To be totally fair, it would be random match ups. Or rotation. And yes, the newly returned people would have to figure out how to co-exist with those who remained. If they refuse, tell them tough noogies but that's just the way it is. They have to learn to get along. They share until the expansion is done, as opposed to doing no expansions.
If they sell and leave, they forfeit their right to the place, easy.
You put the returned people in the empty space, you don't ignore the empty space like the GRC did.
At that particular moment, he did a grey thing. Sacrificing some innocent lives to save other innocent lives. Not that SW ever brings up these issues.
Dude, stop with the empty space thing. There were no empty spaces. You have not brought any proof that there were any empty spaces after the snap was reversed. As for having an expansion in the building, where are you getting the funds to do that. Are you, the building owner, simply going to pay for that out of your own pocket? Are you going to tax the hell out of all the tenants to do an expansion? Remember that you're already having a hard time allocating resources to your overpopulated building. There's water shortage, food shortage, tempers are rising, etc. How exactly do you expect to pay for an expansion and how long will it take? Building an extra 30 units isn't an easy thing to do. As for people who want to sell and leave, I don't think you understand the concept of selling. If they sell their unit, the new buyer will come in and occupy the property. The title of the property will now belong to the new owners. They don't "forfeit" the place. And going back to Luke, you're still sidestepping. If you were in Luke's position, would you have pulled the trigger in order to save the lives of an entire planet?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 24, 2023 4:48:21 GMT
Most programming intended for children four and younger focus on the titular characters learning very basic math, science, history, health, and problem solving. The roles of the parents are kept in the background and their function is to generally serve as a voice of reason and offer advice on occasion, they don't traditionally go very far with the parental figures. I have agreed religious texts have been both misinterpreted and altered over the years, I am just saying that certain things in them have been the cultural norm for a very long time that major change won't be easy in some parts of the world. I am not discouraging anyone from trying to, I am just saying that to change perception isn't going to be a walk in the park in some places. And what about the single parent kids who watch and wonder why there's a man or woman living with the parent and asks their 1 parent about it? It's no different.
It's not easy, it still has to happen.
Most children who watch those programs are more interested in what the main characters are going through than ponder what the deal is about their parents, who are presented generally as typical for majority of consumers.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 24, 2023 5:23:26 GMT
Maybe I do, but that is in regards towards media intended for older viewers. You are coming from this at an emotional perspective, I am coming from it by an artistic one. The storytellers of today are not as talented as the ones from when both of those films were made, and therefore can only produce works that are polarizing and fail the cause they wish to support. You can speculate as much as you wish, but your argument can only go so far, it remains a fallacy. It isn't relevant because the debate was not about if the people in question are being authentic or performing an act, you gave the strong suggestion that people arguing against woke in culture are only white, and I gave an example of a person who is not white and takes issue with woke in culture. At this point though I have to ask where this narrative of such people being scam artists comes from, as they appear to genuinely believe the things that they say, and they appear to promise exactly what the donations made towards their content are for - Mr. July produced his own comic book and sold it well to his fans. As for Alex Jones, I don't know enough, nor do I care enough about him to really have an opinion to make, so your argument about him being their blueprint means nothing to me. Not very good logic there, friend. Someone really likes their fallacies. Apology accepted. If you say so. It happens in younger media, therefore the complaints are hypocrisy.
Nah, the only difference now is how "fans" have become more close minded and see everything as a nonexistent "Culture War" if it dares to be anything outside the box. Those older movies would be ripped apart today.
I don't have to speculate, it's plain as day what would happen.
The ones you brought up don't care about what is "Woke" and what isn't, they're just using that as an excuse for Subs and easy $$$. You saying they seem to believe what they say shows you fell for their scam.
Research Alex Jones then, you'll get it.
It's called fighting fire with fire, see how they like it.
Military Propaganda is inherently right-wing.
Yes.
I do say so.
Pretty much everything presented in this response qualifies as fallacy. The world just isn't a simple place, and people have different reactions to things in the media, and what they deem as appropriate or not in what they think a child should be shown at a young age. Their reasons are not always black and white, they're often complex and complicated. And, what you say is harmless won't be so to the next person. The storytellers of yesterday were more talented the ones of today, the evidence is pretty clear given the number of commercialized works that have been met with polarizing responses and unsatisfaction from consumers. The problem with woke films and television series isn't that their critics are too ignorant and bigoted to see their greatness, it is because they frankly are not very good on the whole. Ava Duvernay's heavily reworked version of A Wrinkle in Time was just a mess of a movie that failed its source material and failed as a film and proved that Duvernay was not qualified to direct it. Paul Feig's reboot of Ghostbusters in 2016 underperformed and was disliked across the board by consumers who didn't like the messaging and the treatment of the iconic property, no surprise it did not get a sequel. Almost nobody went to see Elizabeth Banks' Charlie's Angels reboot from a few years ago, Disney's Lightyear and Strange World's dismal box office were ones for the record books, and harley anyone paid a dime to see Universal Pictures' Bros in theatres. Netflix had to pull the plug on their super-woke animated series Dead End because it was just not very appealing, and nobody bothered giving it the time of day. Marvel and DC Comics keep placing the wrong writers with the wrong characters and the number of times the book gets cancelled not long after it starts is pretty frequent. It isn't very surprising a lot of people are looking at the independent or foreign market for their entertainment these days, in regard to the medium of comic books, look at the sales numbers for Mr. July's Isom comic book and manga, they have performed better than quite a number of recent Marvel and DC titles. Fallacy is fallacy. You haven't yet provided any proof that these people are scam artists who are performing an act for money, if memory serves you didn't even know half of these people till before not long ago, your claim reads as a bias generalization with a level of insecurity (i.e. "there is no way anyone can possibly hate this media that I love, they must be saying negative things for money.") Pure fallacy. Also, Tom Connors, Jr. and Andre Einherjar of Midnight's Edge are very good friends of mine and have been for years, I can confirm that they are genuine and are very good people - not that this should change your perception of their content, but in regard to character I can say that you do not know them and what they're about. I know who Alex Jones is, I just don't have the interest. And how has that worked out? More division and hate, not more bias, and more fallacy driven arguments. That you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service has become quite comical, especially with the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 24, 2023 14:09:57 GMT
To be totally fair, it would be random match ups. Or rotation. And yes, the newly returned people would have to figure out how to co-exist with those who remained. If they refuse, tell them tough noogies but that's just the way it is. They have to learn to get along. They share until the expansion is done, as opposed to doing no expansions.
If they sell and leave, they forfeit their right to the place, easy.
You put the returned people in the empty space, you don't ignore the empty space like the GRC did.
At that particular moment, he did a grey thing. Sacrificing some innocent lives to save other innocent lives. Not that SW ever brings up these issues.
Dude, stop with the empty space thing. There were no empty spaces. You have not brought any proof that there were any empty spaces after the snap was reversed. As for having an expansion in the building, where are you getting the funds to do that. Are you, the building owner, simply going to pay for that out of your own pocket? Are you going to tax the hell out of all the tenants to do an expansion? Remember that you're already having a hard time allocating resources to your overpopulated building. There's water shortage, food shortage, tempers are rising, etc. How exactly do you expect to pay for an expansion and how long will it take? Building an extra 30 units isn't an easy thing to do. As for people who want to sell and leave, I don't think you understand the concept of selling. If they sell their unit, the new buyer will come in and occupy the property. The title of the property will now belong to the new owners. They don't "forfeit" the place. And going back to Luke, you're still sidestepping. If you were in Luke's position, would you have pulled the trigger in order to save the lives of an entire planet? We saw empty spaces in Endgame, therefore the returned or the Remained could have been put in real homes and not dumped in camps with no food or medicine or support.
Yes, do whatever it takes. Extra taxes or pay for it out of pocket. The GRC obviously wasn't hurting for money or resources given how none of their stuff was run down.
Then they leave, of their own free will. They aren't thrown into a camp to be abandoned to die.
Probably, but I'd at least acknowledge it was a Grey act and not a 100% Good one because I had to kill innocent people to do it. Either way, innocent people die.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 24, 2023 14:11:08 GMT
And what about the single parent kids who watch and wonder why there's a man or woman living with the parent and asks their 1 parent about it? It's no different.
It's not easy, it still has to happen.
Most children who watch those programs are more interested in what the main characters are going through than ponder what the deal is about their parents, who are presented generally as typical for majority of consumers. They WILL look and still wonder who the other person with the parent is though, and ask their parent why that is. Which is no easier a conversation than "Why is the man with another man?"
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 24, 2023 14:21:35 GMT
It happens in younger media, therefore the complaints are hypocrisy.
Nah, the only difference now is how "fans" have become more close minded and see everything as a nonexistent "Culture War" if it dares to be anything outside the box. Those older movies would be ripped apart today.
I don't have to speculate, it's plain as day what would happen.
The ones you brought up don't care about what is "Woke" and what isn't, they're just using that as an excuse for Subs and easy $$$. You saying they seem to believe what they say shows you fell for their scam.
Research Alex Jones then, you'll get it.
It's called fighting fire with fire, see how they like it.
Military Propaganda is inherently right-wing.
Yes.
I do say so.
Pretty much everything presented in this response qualifies as fallacy. The world just isn't a simple place, and people have different reactions to things in the media, and what they deem as appropriate or not in what they think a child should be shown at a young age. Their reasons are not always black and white, they're often complex and complicated. And, what you say is harmless won't be so to the next person. The storytellers of yesterday were more talented the ones of today, the evidence is pretty clear given the number of commercialized works that have been met with polarizing responses and unsatisfaction from consumers. The problem with woke films and television series isn't that their critics are too ignorant and bigoted to see their greatness, it is because they frankly are not very good on the whole. Ava Duvernay's heavily reworked version of A Wrinkle in Time was just a mess of a movie that failed its source material and failed as a film and proved that Duvernay was not qualified to direct it. Paul Feig's reboot of Ghostbusters in 2016 underperformed and was disliked across the board by consumers who didn't like the messaging and the treatment of the iconic property, no surprise it did not get a sequel. Almost nobody went to see Elizabeth Banks' Charlie's Angels reboot from a few years ago, Disney's Lightyear and Strange World's dismal box office were ones for the record books, and harley anyone paid a dime to see Universal Pictures' Bros in theatres. Netflix had to pull the plug on their super-woke animated series Dead End because it was just not very appealing, and nobody bothered giving it the time of day. Marvel and DC Comics keep placing the wrong writers with the wrong characters and the number of times the book gets cancelled not long after it starts is pretty frequent. It isn't very surprising a lot of people are looking at the independent or foreign market for their entertainment these days, in regard to the medium of comic books, look at the sales numbers for Mr. July's Isom comic book and manga, they have performed better than quite a number of recent Marvel and DC titles. Fallacy is fallacy. You haven't yet provided any proof that these people are scam artists who are performing an act for money, if memory serves you didn't even know half of these people till before not long ago, your claim reads as a bias generalization with a level of insecurity (i.e. "there is no way anyone can possibly hate this media that I love, they must be saying negative things for money.") Pure fallacy. Also, Tom Connors, Jr. and Andre Einherjar of Midnight's Edge are very good friends of mine and have been for years, I can confirm that they are genuine and are very good people - not that this should change your perception of their content, but in regard to character I can say that you do not know them and what they're about. I know who Alex Jones is, I just don't have the interest. And how has that worked out? More division and hate, not more bias, and more fallacy driven arguments. That you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service has become quite comical, especially with the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing. It's as simple as saying "Well, sometimes there can be 2 daddies or 2 mommies. Nothing wrong with that."
Those same works celebrated in yesteryear would be ripped apart by the same people complaining about things today. What's changed is that nowadays certain people think it's all a conspiracy to destroy society. A Wrinkle in Time (I actually read the book AND saw the movie) failed because the same basic story has been told so many times over the decades that the original no longer has its impact anymore. Ghostbusters 2016 actually made more money than Afterlife did, despite what detractors say. It didn't have any more messaging than the original did. Lightyear did respectably and Strange World got a good streaming run (because hardly anyone knew it was in theaters), and I never saw Charlies' Angels because I never liked that series to start with and didn't see the ones from the early 2000s either.
Netflix cancels good stuff all the time, so Dead End going isn't a crack at its worth. July's sales are juked stats and come from his YouTube followers who only buy because they want to be "Anti-Political" not realizing they're still being political. And Mangas have never outsold Western comics, that was a fake thing started by Comicgaters.
I don't have to speculate, it's plain as day what would happen.
Grifters are Grifters, even if you know them. I have been harassed by their followers though, so I know what people they draw to themselves.
He's the Blueprint for people like YoungRippa
The division and hate was started by them, luckily people are realizing that Grifters are just Grifters and not trustworthy.
It is. Military Propaganda is inherently Right Wing. Top Gun Maverick portrays the service as 100% in the right and no real flaws, making it propaganda.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 24, 2023 21:25:15 GMT
Dude, stop with the empty space thing. There were no empty spaces. You have not brought any proof that there were any empty spaces after the snap was reversed. As for having an expansion in the building, where are you getting the funds to do that. Are you, the building owner, simply going to pay for that out of your own pocket? Are you going to tax the hell out of all the tenants to do an expansion? Remember that you're already having a hard time allocating resources to your overpopulated building. There's water shortage, food shortage, tempers are rising, etc. How exactly do you expect to pay for an expansion and how long will it take? Building an extra 30 units isn't an easy thing to do. As for people who want to sell and leave, I don't think you understand the concept of selling. If they sell their unit, the new buyer will come in and occupy the property. The title of the property will now belong to the new owners. They don't "forfeit" the place. And going back to Luke, you're still sidestepping. If you were in Luke's position, would you have pulled the trigger in order to save the lives of an entire planet? We saw empty spaces in Endgame, therefore the returned or the Remained could have been put in real homes and not dumped in camps with no food or medicine or support.
Yes, do whatever it takes. Extra taxes or pay for it out of pocket. The GRC obviously wasn't hurting for money or resources given how none of their stuff was run down.
Then they leave, of their own free will. They aren't thrown into a camp to be abandoned to die.
Probably, but I'd at least acknowledge it was a Grey act and not a 100% Good one because I had to kill innocent people to do it. Either way, innocent people die.
Endgame took place during a time when half the population of the world had disappeared. Of course there will be empty spaces, the population was HALVED! That's not the situation in TFATWS, where that population already came back. Why are you not understanding this? At this point you're pretty much just trolling. Here, let me do some math for you. The population of the US is 330 million. After the blip, 165 million people disappeared. In an attempt to beef up their population, the US opened up their borders and encouraged immigrants to come over. Let's assume they weren't able to completely fill up the missing 165 million, let's assume they only got maybe half, so 83 million. Now you have a total population in the US of 248 million. Will you have empty spaces? Of course you will, because that's still less than their original population of 330 million. That's what you're seeing in Endgame. But once the previous 165 million population returns, then that will push their population to 413 million. That's far more people than their original 330 million. Where exactly are you getting the extra spaces? It's easy to say "do whatever it takes" yet I don't see you giving any feasible solution. You say you're willing to pay for it out of pocket, how? Do you have a hundred million dollars lying around that you can easily build new housing for 30 people in our example? You say you want to tax the remaining residents, how much? Do you understand how expensive it is to create housing for 30 people? You try taxing your people for that and you'll bleed them dry. You say the GRC wasn't hurting for money, please provide actual objective proof (saying "oh their stuff doesn't look rundown" isn't objective proof). "Then they leave, of their own free will". I'm pretty sure nobody who decided to leave the US at this time was arrested and forced into a camp. So are you still going to insist that Karli is exactly the same as Luke? Are you still going to insist that Karli killing those innocents in the GRC office is just as ethical as Luke destroying the Deathstar?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 24, 2023 21:40:49 GMT
We saw empty spaces in Endgame, therefore the returned or the Remained could have been put in real homes and not dumped in camps with no food or medicine or support.
Yes, do whatever it takes. Extra taxes or pay for it out of pocket. The GRC obviously wasn't hurting for money or resources given how none of their stuff was run down.
Then they leave, of their own free will. They aren't thrown into a camp to be abandoned to die.
Probably, but I'd at least acknowledge it was a Grey act and not a 100% Good one because I had to kill innocent people to do it. Either way, innocent people die.
Endgame took place during a time when half the population of the world had disappeared. Of course there will be empty spaces, the population was HALVED! That's not the situation in TFATWS, where that population already came back. Why are you not understanding this? At this point you're pretty much just trolling. Here, let me do some math for you. The population of the US is 330 million. After the blip, 165 million people disappeared. In an attempt to beef up their population, the US opened up their borders and encouraged immigrants to come over. Let's assume they weren't able to completely fill up the missing 165 million, let's assume they only got maybe half, so 83 million. Now you have a total population in the US of 248 million. Will you have empty spaces? Of course you will, because that's still less than their original population of 330 million. That's what you're seeing in Endgame. But once the previous 165 million population returns, then that will push their population to 413 million. That's far more people than their original 330 million. Where exactly are you getting the extra spaces? It's easy to say "do whatever it takes" yet I don't see you giving any feasible solution. You say you're willing to pay for it out of pocket, how? Do you have a hundred million dollars lying around that you can easily build new housing for 30 people in our example? You say you want to tax the remaining residents, how much? Do you understand how expensive it is to create housing for 30 people? You try taxing your people for that and you'll bleed them dry. You say the GRC wasn't hurting for money, please provide actual objective proof (saying "oh their stuff doesn't look rundown" isn't objective proof). "Then they leave, of their own free will". I'm pretty sure nobody who decided to leave the US at this time was arrested and forced into a camp. So are you still going to insist that Karli is exactly the same as Luke? Are you still going to insist that Karli killing those innocents in the GRC office is just as ethical as Luke destroying the Deathstar? And you put as many of the increased population in those empty spaces, that's what. And you start building more for the rest. Tell the rest to accept a lower standard of living while resources are redirected to build more housing, it's not like they'll starve if they have to give up champagne and caviar for a while.
Yes, the GRC having everything top of the line and in no way struggling to make ends meet is plenty proof they have resources. They're the G8 or whatever number it is now.
Those who could leave and had the resources to do so and survive could, those who remained and got tossed in Camps were because they couldn't and because the GRC wouldn't bother trying to actually help them.
Karli's overall mission was on par with Lukes', she just devolved into extremism due to the GRC continuing to be unreasonable.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 25, 2023 5:34:46 GMT
Most children who watch those programs are more interested in what the main characters are going through than ponder what the deal is about their parents, who are presented generally as typical for majority of consumers. They WILL look and still wonder who the other person with the parent is though, and ask their parent why that is. Which is no easier a conversation than "Why is the man with another man?" Probably not likely because most programming intended for their age don't emphasize the parent characters and some of them don't even present parents as characters, either.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 25, 2023 7:13:57 GMT
Pretty much everything presented in this response qualifies as fallacy. The world just isn't a simple place, and people have different reactions to things in the media, and what they deem as appropriate or not in what they think a child should be shown at a young age. Their reasons are not always black and white, they're often complex and complicated. And, what you say is harmless won't be so to the next person. The storytellers of yesterday were more talented the ones of today, the evidence is pretty clear given the number of commercialized works that have been met with polarizing responses and unsatisfaction from consumers. The problem with woke films and television series isn't that their critics are too ignorant and bigoted to see their greatness, it is because they frankly are not very good on the whole. Ava Duvernay's heavily reworked version of A Wrinkle in Time was just a mess of a movie that failed its source material and failed as a film and proved that Duvernay was not qualified to direct it. Paul Feig's reboot of Ghostbusters in 2016 underperformed and was disliked across the board by consumers who didn't like the messaging and the treatment of the iconic property, no surprise it did not get a sequel. Almost nobody went to see Elizabeth Banks' Charlie's Angels reboot from a few years ago, Disney's Lightyear and Strange World's dismal box office were ones for the record books, and harley anyone paid a dime to see Universal Pictures' Bros in theatres. Netflix had to pull the plug on their super-woke animated series Dead End because it was just not very appealing, and nobody bothered giving it the time of day. Marvel and DC Comics keep placing the wrong writers with the wrong characters and the number of times the book gets cancelled not long after it starts is pretty frequent. It isn't very surprising a lot of people are looking at the independent or foreign market for their entertainment these days, in regard to the medium of comic books, look at the sales numbers for Mr. July's Isom comic book and manga, they have performed better than quite a number of recent Marvel and DC titles. Fallacy is fallacy. You haven't yet provided any proof that these people are scam artists who are performing an act for money, if memory serves you didn't even know half of these people till before not long ago, your claim reads as a bias generalization with a level of insecurity (i.e. "there is no way anyone can possibly hate this media that I love, they must be saying negative things for money.") Pure fallacy. Also, Tom Connors, Jr. and Andre Einherjar of Midnight's Edge are very good friends of mine and have been for years, I can confirm that they are genuine and are very good people - not that this should change your perception of their content, but in regard to character I can say that you do not know them and what they're about. I know who Alex Jones is, I just don't have the interest. And how has that worked out? More division and hate, not more bias, and more fallacy driven arguments. That you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service has become quite comical, especially with the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing. It's as simple as saying "Well, sometimes there can be 2 daddies or 2 mommies. Nothing wrong with that."
Those same works celebrated in yesteryear would be ripped apart by the same people complaining about things today. What's changed is that nowadays certain people think it's all a conspiracy to destroy society. A Wrinkle in Time (I actually read the book AND saw the movie) failed because the same basic story has been told so many times over the decades that the original no longer has its impact anymore. Ghostbusters 2016 actually made more money than Afterlife did, despite what detractors say. It didn't have any more messaging than the original did. Lightyear did respectably and Strange World got a good streaming run (because hardly anyone knew it was in theaters), and I never saw Charlies' Angels because I never liked that series to start with and didn't see the ones from the early 2000s either.
Netflix cancels good stuff all the time, so Dead End going isn't a crack at its worth. July's sales are juked stats and come from his YouTube followers who only buy because they want to be "Anti-Political" not realizing they're still being political. And Mangas have never outsold Western comics, that was a fake thing started by Comicgaters.
I don't have to speculate, it's plain as day what would happen.
Grifters are Grifters, even if you know them. I have been harassed by their followers though, so I know what people they draw to themselves.
He's the Blueprint for people like YoungRippa
The division and hate was started by them, luckily people are realizing that Grifters are just Grifters and not trustworthy.
It is. Military Propaganda is inherently Right Wing. Top Gun Maverick portrays the service as 100% in the right and no real flaws, making it propaganda.
What you see as simple may not be simple for the parent or guardian. As the celebrated works of yesteryear were not released now your argument about them being seen as woke can only go so far because of how different filmmaking and culture were when they were actually produced. As such, your argument is fallacy. Also, people have been saying content creators having sinister intentions behind the scenes has been going on for decades, Fredric Wertham said that DC Comics was promoting homosexuality with Batman and Robin in his book Seduction of the Innocent. No, Ava Duvernay's A Wrinkle in Time failed because it wasn't a good movie. A 4.2 out of 10 rating on IMDb Prime, a 42% critic and a 26% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, a 53% critic and a 2.9 audience rating on Metacritic, coupled with an underwhelming box office does not suggest it was particularly well-liked by consumers and journalists. It didn't work as a movie, and it didn't work as an adaptation, it having a familiar story means nothing if the picture manages to entertain, and this one didn't for most people. Paul Feig's 2016 reboot of Ghostbusters had a budget of $144 million and could only muster in a global haul of $229 million globally, while Ghostbusters: Afterlife had a budget of $75 million and saw a stronger opening day earning $16.6 million, including 4.5 million from Thursday night previews - which was $1 million more than Feig's film had. Domestically, Afterlife surpassed 2016's run on February 5th, 2022 - linkDue to the budget of Feig's Ghostbusters, it had failed to meet its desired $300 to $500 million return. Afterlife cost much less and ended up making enough to be considered successful, hence we are going to see a sequel and not one to Feig's film from 2016. Lightyear didn't perform respectably; it couldn't knock down Jurassic World: Dominion from its top spot and it had it was coming off of a critically and commercially successful franchise in Toy Stroy. It had the second-worst sophomore drop for a Pixar release since 2020's Onward, which was released during the pandemic, and when you factor in the $200 million budget it was far from the massive success Disney was looking for. Disney didn't have enough faith in Strange World, saw that it was going to bomb terribly, saw that it was bombing terribly, and decided to release it not very far from its theatrical debut, its streaming numbers are nothing to really brag about, either. Netflix doesn't cancel tv shows for no reason, the numbers for the very much woke Dead End: Paranormal Park were not very good, and the product wasn't appealing to enough people, so they scrapped it after a second season, which was already ordered before premiere. Mr. July's Isom hit $2 million in preorder sales in under a week. The very day before it hit that number the New York Post ran a story about it having reached $1.7 million - linkBut manga has shown to outperform western comic books in recent history - linklinklinklinkIn other words, fallacy. I am comfortable with my judgment than I am with yours, as I have been friends with the people behind a channel like a Midnight's Edge than you have in familiarity with them (which has been barely a month). If you want to convince me that they are not honest people and neither are the other people mentioned, then you should start to provide actual quotes made by them in video or other social media and additional and confirmed information that support your claim than just saying they are grifters. With that being said I am sorry if you didn't have a good experience with fans of so-and-so though - which set of fans were they of, where was the interaction, and how did it play out? I am aware of who Alex Jones is, I just do not care. His content does not interest me. It doesn't matter who started it, the practice of fighting fire with fire isn't healthy. Instead of fighting fire with fire, I recommend fighting fire with water - it will lead to better conversation. Once again, that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. It also doesn't sound like you have even seen the movie for that matter.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 25, 2023 13:37:49 GMT
They WILL look and still wonder who the other person with the parent is though, and ask their parent why that is. Which is no easier a conversation than "Why is the man with another man?" Probably not likely because most programming intended for their age don't emphasize the parent characters and some of them don't even present parents as characters, either. They'll still see the parent characters and wonder why there's too of them, the more attentive kids will. It's no harder a conversation to have than "Why are two daddies or two mommies".
It won't destroy their minds.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 25, 2023 13:48:20 GMT
It's as simple as saying "Well, sometimes there can be 2 daddies or 2 mommies. Nothing wrong with that."
Those same works celebrated in yesteryear would be ripped apart by the same people complaining about things today. What's changed is that nowadays certain people think it's all a conspiracy to destroy society. A Wrinkle in Time (I actually read the book AND saw the movie) failed because the same basic story has been told so many times over the decades that the original no longer has its impact anymore. Ghostbusters 2016 actually made more money than Afterlife did, despite what detractors say. It didn't have any more messaging than the original did. Lightyear did respectably and Strange World got a good streaming run (because hardly anyone knew it was in theaters), and I never saw Charlies' Angels because I never liked that series to start with and didn't see the ones from the early 2000s either.
Netflix cancels good stuff all the time, so Dead End going isn't a crack at its worth. July's sales are juked stats and come from his YouTube followers who only buy because they want to be "Anti-Political" not realizing they're still being political. And Mangas have never outsold Western comics, that was a fake thing started by Comicgaters.
I don't have to speculate, it's plain as day what would happen.
Grifters are Grifters, even if you know them. I have been harassed by their followers though, so I know what people they draw to themselves.
He's the Blueprint for people like YoungRippa
The division and hate was started by them, luckily people are realizing that Grifters are just Grifters and not trustworthy.
It is. Military Propaganda is inherently Right Wing. Top Gun Maverick portrays the service as 100% in the right and no real flaws, making it propaganda.
What you see as simple may not be simple for the parent or guardian. As the celebrated works of yesteryear were not released now your argument about them being seen as woke can only go so far because of how different filmmaking and culture were when they were actually produced. As such, your argument is fallacy. Also, people have been saying content creators having sinister intentions behind the scenes has been going on for decades, Fredric Wertham said that DC Comics was promoting homosexuality with Batman and Robin in his book Seduction of the Innocent. No, Ava Duvernay's A Wrinkle in Time failed because it wasn't a good movie. A 4.2 out of 10 rating on IMDb Prime, a 42% critic and a 26% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, a 53% critic and a 2.9 audience rating on Metacritic, coupled with an underwhelming box office does not suggest it was particularly well-liked by consumers and journalists. It didn't work as a movie, and it didn't work as an adaptation, it having a familiar story means nothing if the picture manages to entertain, and this one didn't for most people. Paul Feig's 2016 reboot of Ghostbusters had a budget of $144 million and could only muster in a global haul of $229 million globally, while Ghostbusters: Afterlife had a budget of $75 million and saw a stronger opening day earning $16.6 million, including 4.5 million from Thursday night previews - which was $1 million more than Feig's film had. Domestically, Afterlife surpassed 2016's run on February 5th, 2022 - linkDue to the budget of Feig's Ghostbusters, it had failed to meet its desired $300 to $500 million return. Afterlife cost much less and ended up making enough to be considered successful, hence we are going to see a sequel and not one to Feig's film from 2016. Lightyear didn't perform respectably; it couldn't knock down Jurassic World: Dominion from its top spot and it had it was coming off of a critically and commercially successful franchise in Toy Stroy. It had the second-worst sophomore drop for a Pixar release since 2020's Onward, which was released during the pandemic, and when you factor in the $200 million budget it was far from the massive success Disney was looking for. Disney didn't have enough faith in Strange World, saw that it was going to bomb terribly, saw that it was bombing terribly, and decided to release it not very far from its theatrical debut, its streaming numbers are nothing to really brag about, either. Netflix doesn't cancel tv shows for no reason, the numbers for the very much woke Dead End: Paranormal Park were not very good, and the product wasn't appealing to enough people, so they scrapped it after a second season, which was already ordered before premiere. Mr. July's Isom hit $2 million in preorder sales in under a week. The very day before it hit that number the New York Post ran a story about it having reached $1.7 million - linkBut manga has shown to outperform western comic books in recent history - linklinklinklinkIn other words, fallacy. I am comfortable with my judgment than I am with yours, as I have been friends with the people behind a channel like a Midnight's Edge than you have in familiarity with them (which has been barely a month). If you want to convince me that they are not honest people and neither are the other people mentioned, then you should start to provide actual quotes made by them in video or other social media and additional and confirmed information that support your claim than just saying they are grifters. With that being said I am sorry if you didn't have a good experience with fans of so-and-so though - which set of fans were they of, where was the interaction, and how did it play out? I am aware of who Alex Jones is, I just do not care. His content does not interest me. It doesn't matter who started it, the practice of fighting fire with fire isn't healthy. Instead of fighting fire with fire, I recommend fighting fire with water - it will lead to better conversation. Once again, that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. It also doesn't sound like you have even seen the movie for that matter. It's really just that simple, despite what the "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" types say.
So you're admitting that things are somehow more vitriolic and intolerant now than then? So we've gone backwards?
It wouldn't have worked if done 1:1 anyways, because the basic story has been copied so much it no longer has real impact.
229 Million against a 144 million budget. Not a bad haul. Afterlife by contrast did not make that much more. It's getting a sequel because Jason Reitman wants to do more whereas Paul Feig didn't.
Lightyear losing to a huge hit like Jurassic World Dominion, not a shame, especially considering Lightyear made it clear it had nothing to do with the Toy Story universe beyond being the origin of the guy Buzz was based on.
They released it right next to Wakanda Forever and gave it next to no marketing, that's a marketing problem not a movie problem. Streaming was still good though.
Netflix does cancel lots of stuff for petty reasons, they have a reputation for it. It's nothing to do with the quality of the programs.
2 Million, all due to his Cultists and cooking the books. No different from how Alex Jones makes his money.
All exaggerated reports.
I went to videos done by Nerdrotic, Doomcock and Critical Drinker and would point out flaws they made in their "reviews" of things (plot holes that were actually explained in the movies they were talking about). In return, followers of theirs would go to old videos I put up and start insulting me, start going to other videos I was commenting on to insult me, the usual crazy Cult stuff.
Grifters inspire that, which is how I know people like Midnight's Edge is no different and have no integrity.
He's the blueprint for all these others.
They have to be given a taste of their own medicine, but thankfully a lot of the bigger Grifters are finally self-destructing, like Alex Jones and Jordan Petersen.
Pro-Military stuff has been inherently Right Wing ever since Vietnam happened.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 25, 2023 22:26:51 GMT
Probably not likely because most programming intended for their age don't emphasize the parent characters and some of them don't even present parents as characters, either. They'll still see the parent characters and wonder why there's too of them, the more attentive kids will. It's no harder a conversation to have than "Why are two daddies or two mommies".
It won't destroy their minds.
Their attention is most likely going to be focused on the main characters instead of the parent characters, who normally are portrayed as a husband and wife because that is still the cultural norm. Generally, children begin to ask questions on marriage, relationships, and romance in general when they finish elementary school and enter junior high.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 25, 2023 23:21:36 GMT
What you see as simple may not be simple for the parent or guardian. As the celebrated works of yesteryear were not released now your argument about them being seen as woke can only go so far because of how different filmmaking and culture were when they were actually produced. As such, your argument is fallacy. Also, people have been saying content creators having sinister intentions behind the scenes has been going on for decades, Fredric Wertham said that DC Comics was promoting homosexuality with Batman and Robin in his book Seduction of the Innocent. No, Ava Duvernay's A Wrinkle in Time failed because it wasn't a good movie. A 4.2 out of 10 rating on IMDb Prime, a 42% critic and a 26% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, a 53% critic and a 2.9 audience rating on Metacritic, coupled with an underwhelming box office does not suggest it was particularly well-liked by consumers and journalists. It didn't work as a movie, and it didn't work as an adaptation, it having a familiar story means nothing if the picture manages to entertain, and this one didn't for most people. Paul Feig's 2016 reboot of Ghostbusters had a budget of $144 million and could only muster in a global haul of $229 million globally, while Ghostbusters: Afterlife had a budget of $75 million and saw a stronger opening day earning $16.6 million, including 4.5 million from Thursday night previews - which was $1 million more than Feig's film had. Domestically, Afterlife surpassed 2016's run on February 5th, 2022 - linkDue to the budget of Feig's Ghostbusters, it had failed to meet its desired $300 to $500 million return. Afterlife cost much less and ended up making enough to be considered successful, hence we are going to see a sequel and not one to Feig's film from 2016. Lightyear didn't perform respectably; it couldn't knock down Jurassic World: Dominion from its top spot and it had it was coming off of a critically and commercially successful franchise in Toy Stroy. It had the second-worst sophomore drop for a Pixar release since 2020's Onward, which was released during the pandemic, and when you factor in the $200 million budget it was far from the massive success Disney was looking for. Disney didn't have enough faith in Strange World, saw that it was going to bomb terribly, saw that it was bombing terribly, and decided to release it not very far from its theatrical debut, its streaming numbers are nothing to really brag about, either. Netflix doesn't cancel tv shows for no reason, the numbers for the very much woke Dead End: Paranormal Park were not very good, and the product wasn't appealing to enough people, so they scrapped it after a second season, which was already ordered before premiere. Mr. July's Isom hit $2 million in preorder sales in under a week. The very day before it hit that number the New York Post ran a story about it having reached $1.7 million - linkBut manga has shown to outperform western comic books in recent history - linklinklinklinkIn other words, fallacy. I am comfortable with my judgment than I am with yours, as I have been friends with the people behind a channel like a Midnight's Edge than you have in familiarity with them (which has been barely a month). If you want to convince me that they are not honest people and neither are the other people mentioned, then you should start to provide actual quotes made by them in video or other social media and additional and confirmed information that support your claim than just saying they are grifters. With that being said I am sorry if you didn't have a good experience with fans of so-and-so though - which set of fans were they of, where was the interaction, and how did it play out? I am aware of who Alex Jones is, I just do not care. His content does not interest me. It doesn't matter who started it, the practice of fighting fire with fire isn't healthy. Instead of fighting fire with fire, I recommend fighting fire with water - it will lead to better conversation. Once again, that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. It also doesn't sound like you have even seen the movie for that matter. It's really just that simple, despite what the "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" types say.
So you're admitting that things are somehow more vitriolic and intolerant now than then? So we've gone backwards?
It wouldn't have worked if done 1:1 anyways, because the basic story has been copied so much it no longer has real impact.
229 Million against a 144 million budget. Not a bad haul. Afterlife by contrast did not make that much more. It's getting a sequel because Jason Reitman wants to do more whereas Paul Feig didn't.
Lightyear losing to a huge hit like Jurassic World Dominion, not a shame, especially considering Lightyear made it clear it had nothing to do with the Toy Story universe beyond being the origin of the guy Buzz was based on.
They released it right next to Wakanda Forever and gave it next to no marketing, that's a marketing problem not a movie problem. Streaming was still good though.
Netflix does cancel lots of stuff for petty reasons, they have a reputation for it. It's nothing to do with the quality of the programs.
2 Million, all due to his Cultists and cooking the books. No different from how Alex Jones makes his money.
All exaggerated reports.
I went to videos done by Nerdrotic, Doomcock and Critical Drinker and would point out flaws they made in their "reviews" of things (plot holes that were actually explained in the movies they were talking about). In return, followers of theirs would go to old videos I put up and start insulting me, start going to other videos I was commenting on to insult me, the usual crazy Cult stuff.
Grifters inspire that, which is how I know people like Midnight's Edge is no different and have no integrity.
He's the blueprint for all these others.
They have to be given a taste of their own medicine, but thankfully a lot of the bigger Grifters are finally self-destructing, like Alex Jones and Jordan Petersen.
Pro-Military stuff has been inherently Right Wing ever since Vietnam happened.
It isn't actually, because most parents are not comfortable talking about certain things with their child at four and younger, and simplification might not serve the context well depending on the media. No, I am not. I am saying people have been complaining about media and the intentions behind it for decades, arguing against your claim that such things are new. The movie didn't work, and that's why it wasn't liked. Common stories are told numerous times and still manage to become successful because the execution makes it worthwhile. Duvernay was clearly not qualified to make that picture, and neither was Jennifer Lee the right person to write the screenplay for it, as a result it was a very messy film that appealed to very little people. That is bad a haul, they were hoping for a bigger return (between $300 million and $500 million) and couldn't meet it. Afterlife cost much less to make and promote and made a better profit overall, not to mention it appealed well to consumers - thus, we are getting a sequel, and not one to the 2016 film. Also, Paul Feig more certainly wanted to make a sequel to his Ghostbusters, linkIt is a shame because Lightyear should have been an easy billion-dollar earner based on the how well-liked the Toy Story franchise is. It even failed to deliver good profit in the middle of Pride month. It actually is a movie problem because people who saw it didn't recommend it, and its streaming numbers are not stellar, fine maybe nothing really beyond that in the grand scheme of things. No, but has to do with how appealing the media is, and such a series as Dead End: Paranormal Park didn't appeal to enough people, it was too niche a market to cater too. $2 million is quite impressive for an independent debut comic book in pre-sale, and given most costumers were satisfied by the product Mr. July and his Rippaverse did not disappoint in their mission statement. How so? What is your channel name? You have yet to prove any of the people mentioned are grifters, you keep saying "they are grifters" but do not support your claim other than "Alex Jones is their blueprint." It is getting pretty tiresome, show evidence of such for each and every mentioned YouTuber thus far to prove your claim. I am curious though, are there any people who are pro woke in media that are grifters in your eyes? I am confident in my judgment on people I have known for years than yours, given that you have been exposed to very little of the content of Midnight's Edge and have never interacted with the creators of them to make better judge of character. What part of "I am aware of who Alex Jones is, I just do not care. His content does not interest me." is hard to understand? You can say he is the model for all of named YouTubers on this thread till you are blue in the face and it won't matter to me because I do not have interest in him or his content. Same with Jordan Petersen. If they like either of them, good on them, if they don't good on them as well. Your logic is flawed because the tactic of fighting fire with fire very rarely is effective in conversation and less so in online conversation, if anything it adds to more negativity and hate, and unhealthy stereotypical views of others can be created out of them. Fighting fire with water starts with "let's agree to disagree", you may be surprised on who you may end up having a good conversation with. Once again, that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. It also doesn't sound like you have even seen the movie for that matter.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 26, 2023 2:35:53 GMT
They'll still see the parent characters and wonder why there's too of them, the more attentive kids will. It's no harder a conversation to have than "Why are two daddies or two mommies".
It won't destroy their minds.
Their attention is most likely going to be focused on the main characters instead of the parent characters, who normally are portrayed as a husband and wife because that is still the cultural norm. Generally, children begin to ask questions on marriage, relationships, and romance in general when they finish elementary school and enter junior high. There's still always the chance that they'll ask questions then and there about who "the other person" is to their single parent. If the parent can tolerate that kind of conversation, telling them about same sex couples won't destroy their kids minds.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 26, 2023 2:46:49 GMT
It's really just that simple, despite what the "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" types say.
So you're admitting that things are somehow more vitriolic and intolerant now than then? So we've gone backwards?
It wouldn't have worked if done 1:1 anyways, because the basic story has been copied so much it no longer has real impact.
229 Million against a 144 million budget. Not a bad haul. Afterlife by contrast did not make that much more. It's getting a sequel because Jason Reitman wants to do more whereas Paul Feig didn't.
Lightyear losing to a huge hit like Jurassic World Dominion, not a shame, especially considering Lightyear made it clear it had nothing to do with the Toy Story universe beyond being the origin of the guy Buzz was based on.
They released it right next to Wakanda Forever and gave it next to no marketing, that's a marketing problem not a movie problem. Streaming was still good though.
Netflix does cancel lots of stuff for petty reasons, they have a reputation for it. It's nothing to do with the quality of the programs.
2 Million, all due to his Cultists and cooking the books. No different from how Alex Jones makes his money.
All exaggerated reports.
I went to videos done by Nerdrotic, Doomcock and Critical Drinker and would point out flaws they made in their "reviews" of things (plot holes that were actually explained in the movies they were talking about). In return, followers of theirs would go to old videos I put up and start insulting me, start going to other videos I was commenting on to insult me, the usual crazy Cult stuff.
Grifters inspire that, which is how I know people like Midnight's Edge is no different and have no integrity.
He's the blueprint for all these others.
They have to be given a taste of their own medicine, but thankfully a lot of the bigger Grifters are finally self-destructing, like Alex Jones and Jordan Petersen.
Pro-Military stuff has been inherently Right Wing ever since Vietnam happened.
It isn't actually, because most parents are not comfortable talking about certain things with their child at four and younger, and simplification might not serve the context well depending on the media. No, I am not. I am saying people have been complaining about media and the intentions behind it for decades, arguing against your claim that such things are new. The movie didn't work, and that's why it wasn't liked. Common stories are told numerous times and still manage to become successful because the execution makes it worthwhile. Duvernay was clearly not qualified to make that picture, and neither was Jennifer Lee the right person to write the screenplay for it, as a result it was a very messy film that appealed to very little people. That is bad a haul, they were hoping for a bigger return (between $300 million and $500 million) and couldn't meet it. Afterlife cost much less to make and promote and made a better profit overall, not to mention it appealed well to consumers - thus, we are getting a sequel, and not one to the 2016 film. Also, Paul Feig more certainly wanted to make a sequel to his Ghostbusters, linkIt is a shame because Lightyear should have been an easy billion-dollar earner based on the how well-liked the Toy Story franchise is. It even failed to deliver good profit in the middle of Pride month. It actually is a movie problem because people who saw it didn't recommend it, and its streaming numbers are not stellar, fine maybe nothing really beyond that in the grand scheme of things. No, but has to do with how appealing the media is, and such a series as Dead End: Paranormal Park didn't appeal to enough people, it was too niche a market to cater too. $2 million is quite impressive for an independent debut comic book in pre-sale, and given most costumers were satisfied by the product Mr. July and his Rippaverse did not disappoint in their mission statement. How so? What is your channel name? You have yet to prove any of the people mentioned are grifters, you keep saying "they are grifters" but do not support your claim other than "Alex Jones is their blueprint." It is getting pretty tiresome, show evidence of such for each and every mentioned YouTuber thus far to prove your claim. I am curious though, are there any people who are pro woke in media that are grifters in your eyes? I am confident in my judgment on people I have known for years than yours, given that you have been exposed to very little of the content of Midnight's Edge and have never interacted with the creators of them to make better judge of character. What part of "I am aware of who Alex Jones is, I just do not care. His content does not interest me." is hard to understand? You can say he is the model for all of named YouTubers on this thread till you are blue in the face and it won't matter to me because I do not have interest in him or his content. Same with Jordan Petersen. If they like either of them, good on them, if they don't good on them as well. Your logic is flawed because the tactic of fighting fire with fire very rarely is effective in conversation and less so in online conversation, if anything it adds to more negativity and hate, and unhealthy stereotypical views of others can be created out of them. Fighting fire with water starts with "let's agree to disagree", you may be surprised on who you may end up having a good conversation with. Once again, that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. It also doesn't sound like you have even seen the movie for that matter. Then that's on those parents for being too super-soft and not realizing that it's really just that easy.
Not complaining the way they are now. That didn't start till 2016 and the MAGAs came to power.
The movie never would've been that big a success, because the story as it was originally just doesn't stand out anymore with all the other Young Adult adventures around.
Hoping for a bigger return doesn't mean that they still didn't make money. They did. Answer the Call actually got good reviews from those who watched it, because they didn't buy into the misogynistic propaganda constantly attacking the movie. Comparable or better than Afterlife which was too much gutless fanservice. Feig changed his mind obviously, while Reitman didn't.
The marketing made it clear it had nothing to do with the Toy Story series and wouldn't have the Toy Story characters, that turned off prospective viewers.
People who say it did comment positively. All the negative stuff said about the movie from those who never saw it turned out to be fake news. Streaming numbers are quite good.
It's just Netflix canceling a good thing, as they always do.
2 Million raised by cultists who aren't even going to read the comic but just want to support a Grifter isn't impressive, it's just sad.
Juked Stats, Sensationalism, usual stuff.
Oh, I deleted the comments because they were just that disgusting.
If they indulge in using Boogeyman words like "Woke", "Virtue Signaling", "Forced Diversity" and "Checking a Bod", that automatically makes them Grifters.
The only Pro-Woke folks I know of (as in, they're decent people) are Kavernacle and TurfNation. There's the actual good reviewers too like Chris Stuckmann and Jeremy Jahns. Sometimes Cosmonaut Variety Hour and New Rockstars.
If they indulge in Grifting, that's all I need to know.
You should, you'll understand a whole lot better after.
The Grifters and their Cultists made it clear they have no intention of peaceful co-existence, so there's no point in being conciliatory. I learned my lesson from trying to be patient with OT Star Wars fans.
I have. It doesn't even bother naming who their enemy is, which shows how Right Wing it is.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 26, 2023 7:19:17 GMT
Their attention is most likely going to be focused on the main characters instead of the parent characters, who normally are portrayed as a husband and wife because that is still the cultural norm. Generally, children begin to ask questions on marriage, relationships, and romance in general when they finish elementary school and enter junior high. There's still always the chance that they'll ask questions then and there about who "the other person" is to their single parent. If the parent can tolerate that kind of conversation, telling them about same sex couples won't destroy their kids minds. Probably not at four, and definitely not younger than that. And the question then becomes about how exactly the parent explains it as.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 26, 2023 8:03:44 GMT
It isn't actually, because most parents are not comfortable talking about certain things with their child at four and younger, and simplification might not serve the context well depending on the media. No, I am not. I am saying people have been complaining about media and the intentions behind it for decades, arguing against your claim that such things are new. The movie didn't work, and that's why it wasn't liked. Common stories are told numerous times and still manage to become successful because the execution makes it worthwhile. Duvernay was clearly not qualified to make that picture, and neither was Jennifer Lee the right person to write the screenplay for it, as a result it was a very messy film that appealed to very little people. That is bad a haul, they were hoping for a bigger return (between $300 million and $500 million) and couldn't meet it. Afterlife cost much less to make and promote and made a better profit overall, not to mention it appealed well to consumers - thus, we are getting a sequel, and not one to the 2016 film. Also, Paul Feig more certainly wanted to make a sequel to his Ghostbusters, linkIt is a shame because Lightyear should have been an easy billion-dollar earner based on the how well-liked the Toy Story franchise is. It even failed to deliver good profit in the middle of Pride month. It actually is a movie problem because people who saw it didn't recommend it, and its streaming numbers are not stellar, fine maybe nothing really beyond that in the grand scheme of things. No, but has to do with how appealing the media is, and such a series as Dead End: Paranormal Park didn't appeal to enough people, it was too niche a market to cater too. $2 million is quite impressive for an independent debut comic book in pre-sale, and given most costumers were satisfied by the product Mr. July and his Rippaverse did not disappoint in their mission statement. How so? What is your channel name? You have yet to prove any of the people mentioned are grifters, you keep saying "they are grifters" but do not support your claim other than "Alex Jones is their blueprint." It is getting pretty tiresome, show evidence of such for each and every mentioned YouTuber thus far to prove your claim. I am curious though, are there any people who are pro woke in media that are grifters in your eyes? I am confident in my judgment on people I have known for years than yours, given that you have been exposed to very little of the content of Midnight's Edge and have never interacted with the creators of them to make better judge of character. What part of "I am aware of who Alex Jones is, I just do not care. His content does not interest me." is hard to understand? You can say he is the model for all of named YouTubers on this thread till you are blue in the face and it won't matter to me because I do not have interest in him or his content. Same with Jordan Petersen. If they like either of them, good on them, if they don't good on them as well. Your logic is flawed because the tactic of fighting fire with fire very rarely is effective in conversation and less so in online conversation, if anything it adds to more negativity and hate, and unhealthy stereotypical views of others can be created out of them. Fighting fire with water starts with "let's agree to disagree", you may be surprised on who you may end up having a good conversation with. Once again, that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. It also doesn't sound like you have even seen the movie for that matter. Then that's on those parents for being too super-soft and not realizing that it's really just that easy.
Not complaining the way they are now. That didn't start till 2016 and the MAGAs came to power.
The movie never would've been that big a success, because the story as it was originally just doesn't stand out anymore with all the other Young Adult adventures around.
Hoping for a bigger return doesn't mean that they still didn't make money. They did. Answer the Call actually got good reviews from those who watched it, because they didn't buy into the misogynistic propaganda constantly attacking the movie. Comparable or better than Afterlife which was too much gutless fanservice. Feig changed his mind obviously, while Reitman didn't.
The marketing made it clear it had nothing to do with the Toy Story series and wouldn't have the Toy Story characters, that turned off prospective viewers.
People who say it did comment positively. All the negative stuff said about the movie from those who never saw it turned out to be fake news. Streaming numbers are quite good.
It's just Netflix canceling a good thing, as they always do.
2 Million raised by cultists who aren't even going to read the comic but just want to support a Grifter isn't impressive, it's just sad.
Juked Stats, Sensationalism, usual stuff.
Oh, I deleted the comments because they were just that disgusting.
If they indulge in using Boogeyman words like "Woke", "Virtue Signaling", "Forced Diversity" and "Checking a Bod", that automatically makes them Grifters.
The only Pro-Woke folks I know of (as in, they're decent people) are Kavernacle and TurfNation. There's the actual good reviewers too like Chris Stuckmann and Jeremy Jahns. Sometimes Cosmonaut Variety Hour and New Rockstars.
If they indulge in Grifting, that's all I need to know.
You should, you'll understand a whole lot better after.
The Grifters and their Cultists made it clear they have no intention of peaceful co-existence, so there's no point in being conciliatory. I learned my lesson from trying to be patient with OT Star Wars fans.
I have. It doesn't even bother naming who their enemy is, which shows how Right Wing it is.
A parent who doesn't want their toddler to be introduced to mature concepts related to gender identity and sexual preferences doesn't mean they are being too super-soft, they just would rather their child learn other things like how to count, how to spell, and how to write, sharing, and listening first and learn about more mature things when they get older. People were arguing for and against woke in culture before the year of 2016. The movie could have been a success had it been of good quality. Stories that been retold over and over still resonate with people and find success, look at the numerous variations of Dickens' A Christmas Carol. Duvernay's A Wrinkle in Time just wasn't a very good movie to both critics and audiences alike because they found it to be a poor product. I am not arguing Paul Feig's Ghostbusters didn't make any money in 2016, I am saying it fell short of financial hope and expectation, what it made in profit is nothing to gloat about. The movie got good reviews, but general movie goers didn't like it, and that's why it was far and away a crowd-pleasing success. And Paul Feig still would like to make a sequel (but good luck with that). And? Buzz Lightyear is still recognizably a Toy Story character, one so popular they even made an animated series in the early 2000's that lasted a while. Toy Story is a brand that still resonates with people, the last iteration of the franchise proper came out a few years ago and made solid profit. Clearly not enough positive comments were made given the dismal box office profit. Much of the negative things said about it were actually by people who saw it, hence low audience scores. The streaming numbers are, once again, nothing to brag about. I wouldn't personally describe Dead End: Paranormal Park as a good product. The art style isn't appealing, the animation quality isn't very good, the writing is pretty poor, and the voice acting isn't anything to write home about other than Emily Osment. It's a more agenda driven and charmless version of Disney's Gravity Falls series. I am not surprised Netflix decided not to renew its contract, because the audience is too small to ensure longstanding success. Based on the number of reviews of the book, those that bought it to support it did in fact read it, and most enjoyed it. Not a solid enough answer, you will need to provide a link or two that proves your claim right. Okay, but you didn't tell us what your YouTube channel name is, which is what I was asking for. No, it doesn't. Speaking of you still haven't provided any evidence of these people being scam artists. I was asking if there are any pro-woke media commenters that you would describe as being a grifter, but it seems that if you are pro-woke you cannot qualify as a grifter (which doesn't sound realistic because anyone can take anything and play pretend for personal gain, also true regarding your claim about being pro-woke means you are a decent person as there are woke individuals who are not good people). You haven't even provided evidence of grifting. I know and recognize who Alex Jones and Jordan Petersen are and what they're all about, and as I have stated their content just doesn't interest me very much so I don't spend time with them. Negative generalizations don't do the world any good, because we are all human there will be times when we will end agreeing on certain issues and disagreeing with others. Anyone who says they are pro or anti-woke is eventually going to disagree with what their side says about so-and-so and you might find yourself getting cancelled for it in the process. As I shall state again - that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. I do find it puzzling that you would see Top Gun: Maverick as you write it off as right wing and military propaganda for very on-the-surface reasons.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 26, 2023 13:11:30 GMT
There's still always the chance that they'll ask questions then and there about who "the other person" is to their single parent. If the parent can tolerate that kind of conversation, telling them about same sex couples won't destroy their kids minds. Probably not at four, and definitely not younger than that. And the question then becomes about how exactly the parent explains it as. And if the parent can explain that, then they can also easily say "Sometimes a Man is with another Man and a Lady is with another Lady". Easy.
Not going to destroy the kids minds.
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