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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 8, 2023 14:21:23 GMT
I will say, flawed as it was, I don’t think Thor LaT was too WOKE though. I didn’t mind Jane becoming a Thor and original Thor wasn’t deliberately depowered to make her look better. In fact, he was arguably still far more powerful than her. I personally had no issues with that aspect of the movie. Interestingly enough when they announced that they were going to do the Thor Jane story a lot of the usual suspects were convinced that the film was going to be "feminist pandering" or some stupid shit they complain about all the time. I personally thought the Jane stuff was not only done well but was easily the second best thing about that movie. As a side note i really hate the term "woke" and how overused it's become.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 8, 2023 14:28:32 GMT
I will say, flawed as it was, I don’t think Thor LaT was too WOKE though. I didn’t mind Jane becoming a Thor and original Thor wasn’t deliberately depowered to make her look better. In fact, he was arguably still far more powerful than her. I personally had no issues with that aspect of the movie. Interestingly enough when they announced that they were going to do the Thor Jane story a lot of the usual suspects were convinced that the film was going to be "feminist pandering" or some stupid shit they complain about all the time. I personally thought the Jane stuff was not only done well but was easily the second best thing about that movie. As a side note i really hate the term "woke" and how overused it's become. They also made up lies about how the JaneThor storyline was one of the most poorly received runs in Thor's publication history...it was actually one of the best selling runs in his history.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 8, 2023 17:44:56 GMT
I will say, flawed as it was, I don’t think Thor LaT was too WOKE though. I didn’t mind Jane becoming a Thor and original Thor wasn’t deliberately depowered to make her look better. In fact, he was arguably still far more powerful than her. I personally had no issues with that aspect of the movie. Interestingly enough when they announced that they were going to do the Thor Jane story a lot of the usual suspects were convinced that the film was going to be "feminist pandering" or some stupid shit they complain about all the time. I personally thought the Jane stuff was not only done well but was easily the second best thing about that movie. As a side note i really hate the term "woke" and how overused it's become.To be fair, a good number of words have been co-opted and weaponized by different factions from all over the political spectrum such that they no longer resemble what they originally meant. Woke and SJW are overused, but so too are words like bigot and racist being overused. Heck, even something as harmless as "curvy" has been completely mutated to something else than what it used to mean.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 18:34:46 GMT
I will say, flawed as it was, I don’t think Thor LaT was too WOKE though. I didn’t mind Jane becoming a Thor and original Thor wasn’t deliberately depowered to make her look better. In fact, he was arguably still far more powerful than her. I personally had no issues with that aspect of the movie. Interestingly enough when they announced that they were going to do the Thor Jane story a lot of the usual suspects were convinced that the film was going to be "feminist pandering" or some stupid shit they complain about all the time. I personally thought the Jane stuff was not only done well but was easily the second best thing about that movie. As a side note i really hate the term "woke" and how overused it's become. The Batman is the recent one that gets me. I see people calling it WOKE PROPAGANDA and I just shake my head. It’s nuts.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 8, 2023 20:25:25 GMT
Interestingly enough when they announced that they were going to do the Thor Jane story a lot of the usual suspects were convinced that the film was going to be "feminist pandering" or some stupid shit they complain about all the time. I personally thought the Jane stuff was not only done well but was easily the second best thing about that movie. As a side note i really hate the term "woke" and how overused it's become. The Batman is the recent one that gets me. I see people calling it WOKE PROPAGANDA and I just shake my head. It’s nuts. Of course it's woke! They made Catwoman black and had her say mean things about rich white people!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 21:43:32 GMT
The Batman is the recent one that gets me. I see people calling it WOKE PROPAGANDA and I just shake my head. It’s nuts. Of course it's woke! They made Catwoman black and had her say mean things about rich white people! WOKE!
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 8, 2023 22:14:00 GMT
The Batman is the recent one that gets me. I see people calling it WOKE PROPAGANDA and I just shake my head. It’s nuts. Of course it's woke! They made Catwoman black and had her say mean things about rich white people! She was a criminal so what does that say about CRT?
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 8, 2023 23:14:51 GMT
And off to a roaring STOP to head the list in 2023, Velma.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 8, 2023 23:15:28 GMT
I will say, flawed as it was, I don’t think Thor LaT was too WOKE though. I didn’t mind Jane becoming a Thor and original Thor wasn’t deliberately depowered to make her look better. In fact, he was arguably still far more powerful than her. I personally had no issues with that aspect of the movie. All it takes to get something labeled "WOKE" these days is to have a single female who isn't a useless shrieking damsel. Like how Rey was supposed to be a useless shrieking damsel in the Star Wars sequels while Luke was the real main character for 3 movies straight.
And instead she was just a useless dumbass Mary Sue who nobody liked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 23:29:17 GMT
All it takes to get something labeled "WOKE" these days is to have a single female who isn't a useless shrieking damsel. Like how Rey was supposed to be a useless shrieking damsel in the Star Wars sequels while Luke was the real main character for 3 movies straight.
And instead she was just a useless dumbass Mary Sue who nobody liked.
I actually agree with his first sentence. But using Rey as an example? No. No. No. Terrible terrible character.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 9, 2023 0:28:06 GMT
And instead she was just a useless dumbass Mary Sue who nobody liked.
I actually agree with his first sentence. But using Rey as an example? No. No. No. Terrible terrible character.
And what a blow to Princess Leia Organa who I guess was 'a shrieking damsel in distress' for 3 movies while she led the Rebellion even after her home planet and everyone she cared about was blown to smithereens.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2023 2:30:48 GMT
All it takes to get something labeled "WOKE" these days is to have a single female who isn't a useless shrieking damsel. Like how Rey was supposed to be a useless shrieking damsel in the Star Wars sequels while Luke was the real main character for 3 movies straight.
And instead she was just a useless dumbass Mary Sue who nobody liked.
No more than Mara Jade ever was.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2023 2:31:17 GMT
I actually agree with his first sentence. But using Rey as an example? No. No. No. Terrible terrible character.
And what a blow to Princess Leia Organa who I guess was 'a shrieking damsel in distress' for 3 movies while she led the Rebellion even after her home planet and everyone she cared about was blown to smithereens.
Leia was good in the first movie, but she got weaker and weaker as the OT went on.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2023 2:31:38 GMT
And instead she was just a useless dumbass Mary Sue who nobody liked.
I actually agree with his first sentence. But using Rey as an example? No. No. No. Terrible terrible character. No worse than Mara Jade or Allana Solo.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 9, 2023 2:32:33 GMT
And what a blow to Princess Leia Organa who I guess was 'a shrieking damsel in distress' for 3 movies while she led the Rebellion even after her home planet and everyone she cared about was blown to smithereens.
Leia was good in the first movie, but she got weaker and weaker as the OT went on.
Maybe, but still no 'shrieking damsel in distress' either.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2023 3:32:10 GMT
Leia was good in the first movie, but she got weaker and weaker as the OT went on.
Maybe, but still no 'shrieking damsel in distress' either.
If she kept degrading like how she was in ROTJ, I'm sure she'd have ended up that way.
Meanwhile the only way Rey would've been tolerable was if she lost every fight she got into in every ST movie and had to be rescued nonstop by Finn and Luke and all she has to her name by the last movie was maybe winning a fight against an already-injured Stormtrooper who was unarmed.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 9, 2023 4:10:26 GMT
Maybe, but still no 'shrieking damsel in distress' either.
If she kept degrading like how she was in ROTJ, I'm sure she'd have ended up that way.
And yet, she was able to strangle Jabba the Hutt to death single handedly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 7:58:38 GMT
I actually agree with his first sentence. But using Rey as an example? No. No. No. Terrible terrible character. No worse than Mara Jade or Allana Solo. Who? I don’t watch the streeaming shows so I have no idea who they are.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 9, 2023 8:14:27 GMT
No worse than Mara Jade or Allana Solo. Who? I don’t watch the streeaming shows so I have no idea who they are.
I think they came about in the Legends book series, whatever the hell that is.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 9, 2023 9:02:35 GMT
No worse than Mara Jade or Allana Solo. Who? I don’t watch the streeaming shows so I have no idea who they are. Characters from the Legends books. Mara Jade was Luke Skywalker wife. Allana Solo was Han's and Leia's granddaughter.
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