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Post by djorno on Feb 22, 2023 9:19:56 GMT
Only a few. I am not a Jew. I do not need to follow any of these, as they do not apply to me. I am not under the old Covenant. I’m under the law of Christ. I do not believe the bible endorsed the kind of slavery you’re thinking of. More ad Homs, hate, bigotry and intolerance from you. No the truth is I follow the new covenant. Why do you take my view about homosexuality being unnatural and a sin soo personally? You’re the one coming across as a bigot here in all honesty. If you follow the new covenant, why did you quote leviticus? are you sure you have a handle on this? To show you that homosexuality is considered a sin and an abomination in the bible. “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;”2 Timothy 3:16
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Post by Winter_King on Feb 22, 2023 10:45:09 GMT
No they’re not. YOU are broken! You don’t get to visit that onto everyone else. The reason why people don’t like that is because it’s a lie! You’re telling people that there is something wrong with them for being gay. It’s no more loving than telling a black person that there is something wrong with them for being black “but it’s okay to black because everyone is broken”. Do you seriously not understand how insulting that sounds? Being a homosexual is a lifestyle choice. Let's say it is. What exactly is the problem?
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Post by djorno on Feb 22, 2023 11:25:57 GMT
Being a homosexual is a lifestyle choice. Let's say it is. What exactly is the problem? The problem is that it’s a an unnatural and destructive lifestyle. And most importantly it’s going to send the person to hell.
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Post by Winter_King on Feb 22, 2023 11:50:54 GMT
Let's say it is. What exactly is the problem? The problem is that it’s a an unnatural and destructive lifestyle. And most importantly it’s going to send the person to hell. But it's not unnatural and I guess it can be destructive as other relationships can be. Nothing specific about homosexuality. Assuming that's true, and that's a big if, that's issue between them and God. Nothing to do with anyone else.
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Post by djorno on Feb 22, 2023 12:17:59 GMT
The problem is that it’s a an unnatural and destructive lifestyle. And most importantly it’s going to send the person to hell. But it's not unnatural and I guess it can be destructive as other relationships can be. Nothing specific about homosexuality. Assuming that's true, and that's a big if, that's issue between them and God. Nothing to do with anyone else. I’m of the belief other relationships are destructive because people no longer follow biblical guidelines for chastity and marriage. This is part of the reason why we have so much fatherless broken homes today. Look at the myriad of problems that comes with.
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Post by faustus5 on Feb 22, 2023 12:23:03 GMT
I am not a Jew. I do not need to follow any of these, as they do not apply to me. I am not under the old Covenant. I’m under the law of Christ. Translation: I will follow the parts of the Bible which agree with my bigotry and discard whatever is inconvenient. Then you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. It absolutely, factually, beyond a doubt endorsed slavery. It also endorsed mass genocide. That's your team, buddy.
You are exactly like that kind of exquisitely dumb redneck racist who immediately treats any criticism of his view of colored people as bigotry against whites.
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Post by amyghost on Feb 22, 2023 13:17:00 GMT
But it's not unnatural and I guess it can be destructive as other relationships can be. Nothing specific about homosexuality. Assuming that's true, and that's a big if, that's issue between them and God. Nothing to do with anyone else. I’m of the belief other relationships are destructive because people no longer follow biblical guidelines for chastity and marriage. This is part of the reason why we have so much fatherless broken homes today. Look at the myriad of problems that comes with. I don't endorse eugenics, but a good bit of what you've spewn here could tend to suggest that it may not be a totally untoward idea... Look at the myriad of problems that come from just anybody being able to reproduce and indoctrinate offspring .
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Post by paulslaugh on Feb 22, 2023 13:44:21 GMT
If you follow the new covenant, why did you quote leviticus? are you sure you have a handle on this? To show you that homosexuality is considered a sin and an abomination in the bible. “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;”2 Timothy 3:16 So says one guy who might have worked for the Apostle Paul. Timothy didn’t get dream visits from Jesus. Even so, he’s only giving out advice to whatever church he’s writing to, not speaking with the voice of God.
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Post by Winter_King on Feb 22, 2023 14:27:59 GMT
But it's not unnatural and I guess it can be destructive as other relationships can be. Nothing specific about homosexuality. Assuming that's true, and that's a big if, that's issue between them and God. Nothing to do with anyone else. I’m of the belief other relationships are destructive because people no longer follow biblical guidelines for chastity and marriage. This is part of the reason why we have so much fatherless broken homes today. Look at the myriad of problems that comes with. Then this should be observed in all non Christian countries, right? But it's that what happens? Also homosexuality has nothing to do with fatherless broken homes.
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Post by Isapop on Feb 22, 2023 14:41:56 GMT
If you follow the new covenant, why did you quote leviticus? are you sure you have a handle on this? To show you that homosexuality is considered a sin and an abomination in the bible. “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;”2 Timothy 3:16 Dumb move there, Djorno. After you just explained how other OT prohibitions don't apply anymore, you pull out 2 Timothy 3:16 to show why the prohibition on gay sex still DOES apply? Then the same Timothy verse, by your reasoning, should equally apply to those other OT prohibitions that you just said don't count anymore.
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Post by djorno on Feb 22, 2023 14:56:44 GMT
To show you that homosexuality is considered a sin and an abomination in the bible. “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;”2 Timothy 3:16 Dumb move there, Djorno. After you just explained how other OT prohibitions don't apply anymore, you pull out 2 Timothy 3:16 to show why the prohibition on gay sex still DOES apply? Then the same Timothy verse, by your reasoning, should equally apply to those other OT prohibitions that you just said don't count anymore.No, sir. A) I said those laws don’t apply to me as a Christian. B) I quoted it in response to Gadreel’s claim that no where in the bible is homosexuality considered a sin. C) I also quoted 2 Timothy to explain why it’s OK for me as a Christian to appeal to OT passages. I hope that clears up the confusion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2023 15:04:39 GMT
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Post by Isapop on Feb 22, 2023 15:13:37 GMT
Dumb move there, Djorno. After you just explained how other OT prohibitions don't apply anymore, you pull out 2 Timothy 3:16 to show why the prohibition on gay sex still DOES apply? Then the same Timothy verse, by your reasoning, should equally apply to those other OT prohibitions that you just said don't count anymore.No, sir. A) I said those laws don’t apply to me as a Christian. B) I quoted it in response to Gadreel’s claim that no where in the bible is homosexuality considered a sin. C) I also quoted 2 Timothy to explain why it’s OK for me as a Christian to appeal to OT passages. I hope that clears up the confusion. Then any gay Christian can say "The Leviticus prohibition doesn't apply." But it's not that important a point because you don't need the OT at all when you've got some NT verses that (arguably) back you. Another question: Since you assert that gay people have CHOSEN to go against what is natural to them, how can you square that with the extensive documentation of homosexual behavior that occurs in the animal kingdom? Did animals make the same lifestyle choice? Or, are zoologists falsifying their data to promote the radical homosexual agenda?
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Post by djorno on Feb 22, 2023 15:25:46 GMT
No, sir. A) I said those laws don’t apply to me as a Christian. B) I quoted it in response to Gadreel’s claim that no where in the bible is homosexuality considered a sin. C) I also quoted 2 Timothy to explain why it’s OK for me as a Christian to appeal to OT passages. I hope that clears up the confusion. Then any gay Christian can say "The Leviticus prohibition doesn't apply." [/quote] No, they can’t. And here’s why they can’t. Well humans are made in the image of God. Animals are not. I really wouldn’t put it past them tbh. With science, when it comes to stuff supporting ultra left-wing causes, I always find it a bit dubious. Take abortion for example. “Scientists” have somehow manage to brainwash the masses into thinking the murder of the most innocent and defenceless amongst us is “healthcare” and something to be celebrated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2023 15:28:56 GMT
Dumb move there, Djorno. After you just explained how other OT prohibitions don't apply anymore, you pull out 2 Timothy 3:16 to show why the prohibition on gay sex still DOES apply? Then the same Timothy verse, by your reasoning, should equally apply to those other OT prohibitions that you just said don't count anymore.No, sir. A) I said those laws don’t apply to me as a Christian. C) I also quoted 2 Timothy to explain why it’s OK for me as a Christian to appeal to OT passages. I hope that clears up the confusion. No, that makes your confusion worse... A) If OT laws don't apply to you because you are a Christian (which I agree with by the way), then they don't apply to any other Christian either, even if they are gay. C) No it's not okay for you to use 2 Timothy as a bizarre self justification to give you the right to cast judgement at others based on OT laws, that you amazingly are not subject to. You really are confused.
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Post by djorno on Feb 22, 2023 15:34:05 GMT
No, sir. A) I said those laws don’t apply to me as a Christian. C) I also quoted 2 Timothy to explain why it’s OK for me as a Christian to appeal to OT passages. I hope that clears up the confusion. No, that makes your confusion worse... A) If OT laws don't apply to you because you are a Christian (which I agree with by the way), then they don't apply to any other Christian either, even if they are gay. C) No it's not okay for you to use 2 Timothy as a bizarre self justification to give you the right to cast judgement at others based on OT laws, that you amazingly are not subject to. You really are confused. The problem with your argument is that the NT is even more clear than the OT that homosexuality and all other forms of sexual immorality are sins and that Christians and non-Christians should steer clear of. Those who part-take in such practices will not inherit the kingdom of God.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2023 15:37:54 GMT
No, that makes your confusion worse... A) If OT laws don't apply to you because you are a Christian (which I agree with by the way), then they don't apply to any other Christian either, even if they are gay. C) No it's not okay for you to use 2 Timothy as a bizarre self justification to give you the right to cast judgement at others based on OT laws, that you amazingly are not subject to. You really are confused. The problem with your argument is that the NT is even more clear than the OT that homosexuality and all other forms of sexual immorality are sins and that Christians and non-Christians should steer clear of. Those who part-take in such practices will not inherit the kingdom of God. Do what? Jesus told us to love everyone, and not to judge others. There was no asterisk saying 'except gay people'. OT laws don't apply to you because you're a Christian, but you can use them to hate on other people 😅 I'm out of this thread now... You have tried, and failed, to hide your own intolerance, bigotry, and hatred behind a veneer of Christianity... You have tied yourself in knots that contradict each other.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 22, 2023 19:01:17 GMT
If you follow the new covenant, why did you quote leviticus? are you sure you have a handle on this? To show you that homosexuality is considered a sin and an abomination in the bible. “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;”2 Timothy 3:16 hahahahahaa, ok so how about all the links I provided to show you that the claims you are making do not hold up to the truth?
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Post by djorno on Feb 22, 2023 19:06:16 GMT
To show you that homosexuality is considered a sin and an abomination in the bible. “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;”2 Timothy 3:16 hahahahahaa, ok so how about all the links I provided to show you that the claims you are making do not hold up to the truth? They were laughable. No serious biblical scholar takes those arguments seriously.
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