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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 13:15:02 GMT
(which I personally think sums up the attitude of certain posters here on this particular message forum)
"Our culture has accepted 2 lies. 1st, if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. 2nd, if you love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate. — @rickwarren"
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Post by faustus5 on Feb 27, 2023 13:26:59 GMT
(which I personally think sums up the attitude of certain posters here on this particular message forum) "Our culture has accepted 2 lies. 1st, if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. 2nd, if you love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate. — @rickwarren" Does "disagreeing with someone's lifestyle" exist completely detached from any consequences? Does it exist without any political or policy implications that could impact the life of the person whose "lifestyle" is being "disagreed" with?
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 14:39:47 GMT
(which I personally think sums up the attitude of certain posters here on this particular message forum) "Our culture has accepted 2 lies. 1st, if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. 2nd, if you love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate. — @rickwarren" Does "disagreeing with someone's lifestyle" exist completely detached from any consequences? Does it exist without any political or policy implications that could impact the life of the person whose "lifestyle" is being "disagreed" with? Yes.
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 14:49:17 GMT
How The Media Replaced Dictators
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 14:54:01 GMT
How The Media Replaced Dictators You are a dictator yourself... Obsessed that you are right about everything, and telling everyone else how they should and should not live.
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 15:05:34 GMT
How The Media Replaced Dictators You are a dictator yourself... Obsessed that you are right about everything, and telling everyone else how they should and should not live. I have a right to express my views, just as everybody else. You were the one who dragged me into that discussion on that other topic thread. That topic thread wasn't even attacking anybody. Just because you & others disagreed with the commentator in that video does not mean that he was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 15:07:52 GMT
You are a dictator yourself... Obsessed that you are right about everything, and telling everyone else how they should and should not live. I have a right to express my views, just as everybody else. You were the one who dragged me into that discussion on that other topic thread. That topic thread wasn't even attacking anybody. Just because you & others disagreed with the commentator in that video does not mean that he was wrong. There is no understanding nor empathy in any of your posts about people who don't adhere to your rigid personal moral ideology. You are devoid of compassion.
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 15:21:34 GMT
I have a right to express my views, just as everybody else. You were the one who dragged me into that discussion on that other topic thread. That topic thread wasn't even attacking anybody. Just because you & others disagreed with the commentator in that video does not mean that he was wrong. There is no understanding nor empathy in any of your posts about people who don't adhere to your rigid personal moral ideology. You are devoid of compassion. I do not wish any ill will on LGBT. I just do not believe in the lifestyle. To tell me that I should is dictating to me how to think. And my "rigid moral ideology" is exactly what the Catholic Church teaches, & I have even shared it here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 15:26:07 GMT
There is no understanding nor empathy in any of your posts about people who don't adhere to your rigid personal moral ideology. You are devoid of compassion. I do not wish any ill will on LGBT. Aye you do... You have personally judged them, and condemned them to hell.
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 15:30:36 GMT
I do not wish any ill will on LGBT. Aye you do... You have personally judged them, and condemned them to hell. Point out to where I condemned them to hell. I do not even know where I am going after I die.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 15:37:52 GMT
Aye you do... You have personally judged them, and condemned them to hell. Point out to where I condemned them to hell. I do not even know where I am going after I die. Just love. Love 'the other'... It's the Christian thing to do. We are all brothers, we are all sisters.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 27, 2023 16:16:23 GMT
There is no understanding nor empathy in any of your posts about people who don't adhere to your rigid personal moral ideology. You are devoid of compassion. I do not wish any ill will on LGBT. I just do not believe in the lifestyle. To tell me that I should is dictating to me how to think. And my "rigid moral ideology" is exactly what the Catholic Church teaches, & I have even shared it here. Your "rigid moral ideology" is dictating to you how to NOT think.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 27, 2023 16:37:29 GMT
I do not wish any ill will on LGBT. Aye you do... You have personally judged them, and condemned them to hell. I think I have the perfect solution for clusium - "Get thee to a nunnery" - preferably the Quidenham Carmelite Monastery in Norfolk: a convent of Catholic nuns who have pledged a vow of silence. She can remain in her other-worldly bubble and forget about the rest of humanity.
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 17:51:49 GMT
Point out to where I condemned them to hell. I do not even know where I am going after I die. Just love. Love 'the other'... It's the Christian thing to do. We are all brothers, we are all sisters. I do & I agree. But loving everybody does not mean agreeing with everything everybody does, nor does it even mean everybody agreeing with what I do.
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 17:52:48 GMT
Aye you do... You have personally judged them, and condemned them to hell. I think I have the perfect solution for clusium - "Get thee to a nunnery" - preferably the Quidenham Carmelite Monastery in Norfolk: a convent of Catholic nuns who have pledged a vow of silence. She can remain in her other-worldly bubble and forget about the rest of humanity. Great idea!
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 27, 2023 18:02:41 GMT
(which I personally think sums up the attitude of certain posters here on this particular message forum) "Our culture has accepted 2 lies. 1st, if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. 2nd, if you love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate. — @rickwarren" Yes, they are lies. Not Mistakes. Not Misunderstandings. Lies. Nice to see someone calling it what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 18:11:49 GMT
I think I have the perfect solution for clusium - "Get thee to a nunnery" - preferably the Quidenham Carmelite Monastery in Norfolk: a convent of Catholic nuns who have pledged a vow of silence. She can remain in her other-worldly bubble and forget about the rest of humanity. Great idea! You wouldn't like cloistered life... It's focused on the self, not accusing others of sin.
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 18:12:15 GMT
(which I personally think sums up the attitude of certain posters here on this particular message forum) "Our culture has accepted 2 lies. 1st, if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. 2nd, if you love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate. — @rickwarren" Yes, they are lies. Not Mistakes. Not Misunderstandings. Lies. Nice to see someone calling it what it is. Exactly.
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Post by faustus5 on Feb 27, 2023 18:14:08 GMT
Does "disagreeing with someone's lifestyle" exist completely detached from any consequences? Does it exist without any political or policy implications that could impact the life of the person whose "lifestyle" is being "disagreed" with? Yes. Good, so you are perfectly okay with, say, the state allowing gay people to marry and enjoy all the social and economic benefits which that institution bestows. Or rather, you may not be okay with this, but as this position carries no real world consequences, as you affirmed above, your dislike of same sex marriage would be an internal thing which might come in up in conversation, but would not influence how you voted or donated money.
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Post by clusium on Feb 27, 2023 18:14:22 GMT
You wouldn't like cloistered life... It's focused on the self, not accusing others of sin. You keep on accusing me of going around accusing others of sin. I do not. I acknowledge what the Church teaches is sin. And the cloistered life is all about staying away from a sinful world, & avoiding sin.
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