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Post by cupcakes on Jun 5, 2017 20:33:34 GMT
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Post by phludowin on Jun 5, 2017 20:39:19 GMT
Except although your wonder twin Cody came into this thread and helpfully called Cinemachinery "Cuckmachinery", what you don't see is "RACIST!!!! ISLAMOPHOBE!!11!!!", except from you. Quoted for truth. Except for thorshairspray and Cody, nobody on this thread shouted anyone down with "Racist". Especially not Cinemachinery. Paranoia can be a problem.
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 5, 2017 22:20:44 GMT
Except although your wonder twin Cody came into this thread and helpfully called Cinemachinery "Cuckmachinery", what you don't see is "RACIST!!!! ISLAMOPHOBE!!11!!!", except from you. Quoted for truth. Except for thorshairspray and Cody, nobody on this thread shouted anyone down with "Racist". Especially not Cinemachinery. Paranoia can be a problem. Care to quote me shouting anyone down with "racist" or would you prefer to apologise and retract that lie straight away?
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 5, 2017 22:23:19 GMT
Look at the op again. Who else would you be referring to? Cody called Cine a cuck. Who would possibly respond to Cody other than Cine? So you're not interested in what is being said, only who is saying it. Got it.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 5, 2017 22:29:58 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 5, 2017 22:37:17 GMT
*yawn* Not taken your pills today? You stated "Except although your wonder twin Cody came into this thread and helpfully called Cinemachinery "Cuckmachinery", what you don't see is "RACIST!!!! ISLAMOPHOBE!!11!!!", except from you. " Now since me and Cine were talking about shutting down conversations with terms like "cuck" and "Racist" and given I'm not really known for claiming things are racist, who exactly of the people in this thread would you expect to bring up racism at that point and why? Do you even English, bro?
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 5, 2017 22:42:46 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 5, 2017 22:50:48 GMT
So we've reached the point where you have literally no argument to make and are simply talking shit. Come back when you have something beyond "your teh lies n stuff" and can actually write in competent English. I made no claim that anyone in this thread would attempt to shut down the conversation with cries of racism, we were talking about the actual World, not IMBD2. You are once again criticising an argument made by me, simply because I made it. Even though Cine agreed with me. This is why you have no point. No refutation. Like usual.
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Post by gadreel on Jun 5, 2017 23:12:04 GMT
See Thor's first reply on the thread. Are you incapable of making a conversation for yourself? Thor mentions media, but I do not see what you describe in the media either.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 5, 2017 23:34:59 GMT
tpfkar We always do when you just arse-talk to cover your retreat. Of course uproariously combined with your petulant child, pills, can't read, talking sh!t pure doofus high hypocrisy. Come back with or without your continuous lying and moaning and desperate stabs to try to scrabble back a little bit of face as you poof away. You brought it up in this place, once again, one of many times. At least you've sort of improved from your "I know you're gonna say it" belch. You're once again posting inanities just because they rolled out of your head. Poor poor persecuted thor & Ada. It's personal and not the utterly stupid shyte that they post. And those points/refutations really aren't, because, well, that can always be repeated when there's nada on the way out. The question on the table was "But what explanation are you offering for why certain minorities are overrepresented in certain crimes?"
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Post by phludowin on Jun 6, 2017 4:56:51 GMT
Look, I know not all Muslims are terrorists, but.. " RACIST!!!! ISLAMOPHOBE!!11!!!" Our political leaders need the balls to ignore this and address the problem. Which is Islamic extremism. Which is being fostered in the UK in Mosques, Schools and prisons. We don't need some prat waffling on about "unity" and "love." Europe needs actual leadership right now. Not platitudes and hashtags. That was easy. EDIT: Just saw what you wrote to Cupcakes AFTER my post. Concession and goalpost moving noted. But don't worry, I won't ask you for an apology. After all, it's possible that it was just a misunderstanding without malicious intent.
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Post by londonbird on Jun 6, 2017 9:25:25 GMT
Think it's quiite accurate. Nowhere near correct. It is absurd and facile. The London Bridge attackers were no more Muslim than me, a true Muslim would not attack during Ramadan.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 6, 2017 9:32:04 GMT
Nowhere near correct. It is absurd and facile. The London Bridge attackers were no more Muslim than me, a true Muslim would not attack during Ramadan. That's a completely wrong way of thinking. A Muslim (or a person of any religion/ideology) will attack humans/buildings depending on his or her own personal views and interpretation of his or her own religion/ideology. A Muslim can think he is doing well by eliminating people of societies that are against his religion and thus attack during Ramadan or Id or whatever day he feels like he can attack. Followers of any set of ideologies have their own interpretation of their chosen ideology. For that matter, followers of ISIS and Al-Qaeeds are Muslims too. They just don't happen to be good examples of Muslims in our views.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 10:54:09 GMT
Think it's quiite accurate. Nowhere near correct. It is absurd and facile. The London Bridge attackers were no more Muslim than me, a true Muslim would not attack during Ramadan. LOL A no true Scotsman fallacy. Well done.
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Post by londonbird on Jun 6, 2017 11:45:45 GMT
Nowhere near correct. It is absurd and facile. The London Bridge attackers were no more Muslim than me, a true Muslim would not attack during Ramadan. That's a completely wrong way of thinking. A Muslim (or a person of any religion/ideology) will attack humans/buildings depending on his or her own personal views and interpretation of his or her own religion/ideology. A Muslim can think he is doing well by eliminating people of societies that are against his religion and thus attack during Ramadan or Id or whatever day he feels like he can attack. Followers of any set of ideologies have their own interpretation of their chosen ideology. For that matter, followers of ISIS and Al-Qaeeds are Muslims too. They just don't happen to be good examples of Muslims in our views. We will have to agree to disagree here. Having spoken to a number of friends who are on Ramadam and then seeing an Iman on the tv saying almost verbatim what I just said. I agree they may think they are Muslims but they are not. The Manchester bomber drank and smoked, the ones on Saturday broke the Quran by creating death during Ramadam. So we shall agree to disagree.
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Post by londonbird on Jun 6, 2017 11:46:41 GMT
Nowhere near correct. It is absurd and facile. The London Bridge attackers were no more Muslim than me, a true Muslim would not attack during Ramadan. LOL A no true Scotsman fallacy. Well done. Ah bless you for not understanding. There there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 11:55:03 GMT
LOL A no true Scotsman fallacy. Well done. Ah bless you for not understanding. There there. I understand a No true Scotsman when I see one. Your comment was ludicrously naive. "A true Muslim would not attack during Ramadan" Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 6, 2017 12:03:49 GMT
tpfkar It's a common religious sentiment. She's just consistent in her application. Science proven wrong yet AGAIN.
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Post by phludowin on Jun 6, 2017 13:07:49 GMT
That's a completely wrong way of thinking. A Muslim (or a person of any religion/ideology) will attack humans/buildings depending on his or her own personal views and interpretation of his or her own religion/ideology. A Muslim can think he is doing well by eliminating people of societies that are against his religion and thus attack during Ramadan or Id or whatever day he feels like he can attack. Followers of any set of ideologies have their own interpretation of their chosen ideology. For that matter, followers of ISIS and Al-Qaeeds are Muslims too. They just don't happen to be good examples of Muslims in our views. We will have to agree to disagree here. Having spoken to a number of friends who are on Ramadam and then seeing an Iman on the tv saying almost verbatim what I just said. I agree they may think they are Muslims but they are not. The Manchester bomber drank and smoked, the ones on Saturday broke the Quran by creating death during Ramadam. So we shall agree to disagree. In this case, I disagree as well. This is a No True Muslim fallacy. If the killers believed in God (or Allah, as they may have called him), and if they believed that Muhammad was his prophet, and if they called themselves Muslim, then they were. Maybe they were aware of the Ramadan rules and considered themselves sinners, but for the greater good.
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 6, 2017 23:15:31 GMT
Look, I know not all Muslims are terrorists, but.. " RACIST!!!! ISLAMOPHOBE!!11!!!" Our political leaders need the balls to ignore this and address the problem. Which is Islamic extremism. Which is being fostered in the UK in Mosques, Schools and prisons. We don't need some prat waffling on about "unity" and "love." Europe needs actual leadership right now. Not platitudes and hashtags. That was easy. EDIT: Just saw what you wrote to Cupcakes AFTER my post. Concession and goalpost moving noted. But don't worry, I won't ask you for an apology. After all, it's possible that it was just a misunderstanding without malicious intent. Are you retarded? I mean seriously, are you a retard? Let me break this down for you. Me and Cine were talking about the usual arguments after a terror attack. Cine said : ""Nothing to do with Islam" is along the lines of "Obama wants to destroy America!" - finding blow-hard extemists on either side and addressing them as "the other side" (like the above meme) is cartoon thoughts for cartoon people. It's one of the reasons it's difficult to hold any level of reasonable discourse on militant Islam. "Look, it's a serious danger, I just want to differentiate between that and these other Mus--" "CUCK! CUUUUUUUUUUCK!" " To which I replied: "It is also demonstrably false and just makes us think out leaders don't know what they are doing. At least Theresa May named "Radical Islamic terrorism" this week. Step forward. And the same can be said of the "other side"
Look, I know not all Muslims are terrorists, but.. " "RACIST!!!! ISLAMOPHOBE!!11!!!" " Now, you simpleton, exactly who am I trying to shut down by calling them racist? You? Cine? Rabbit? President Trump? The Tooth Fairy? I didn't call anyone a racist you moron. I simply gave the counterpoint to Cinemachinery's point. A point you and Cupcakes and Cody have aptly demonstrated. Cine and myself were having a conversation and you three pricks have steamed in to try and shut down the person you don't like, Cody with Cine and You and Cupcakes with me and you're the worst one because you have flat out lied. Oh and are you going to quote this part of what Cine said And accuse him of trying to shut people down by calling them Cucks, you muppet? What concession you clown? I stared the thread by referencing the arguments made by World Leaders, not Blade and Ada. If you could have been arsed to read the whole thread instead of cheer leading for Rabbit you might have seen what the actual conversation between me and Cine was about. So again. Who did I attempt to shut down? Who did I call racist? When did I claim anyone in this thread would do the above? Why have you only accused me of trying to shut people down and not Cine when we made the exact same point?
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