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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 6, 2017 23:23:45 GMT
Think it's quiite accurate. Nowhere near correct. It is absurd and facile. The London Bridge attackers were no more Muslim than me, a true Muslim would not attack during Ramadan. That isn't true. Death in Jihad absolves all sins and guarantees heaven in there minds. It doesn't matter if they have the scripture wrong, they still believe they are doing the work of Allah.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jun 6, 2017 23:34:15 GMT
This. Arguments about "no true... would ever" are sort of just academic. They certainly don't win over the hearts and minds of those outside the religion who judge the group by the individual. I don't think a "real Christian" would murder someone in cold blood, but Paul Jennings Hill... still Christian.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 6, 2017 23:37:59 GMT
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Post by phludowin on Jun 7, 2017 9:44:53 GMT
Now, you simpleton, exactly who am I trying to shut down by calling them racist? You? Cine? Rabbit? President Trump? The Tooth Fairy? I didn't call anyone a racist you moron. I simply gave the counterpoint to Cinemachinery's point. A point you and Cupcakes and Cody have aptly demonstrated. Cine and myself were having a conversation and you three pricks have steamed in to try and shut down the person you don't like, Cody with Cine and You and Cupcakes with me and you're the worst one because you have flat out lied. Oh and are you going to quote this part of what Cine said And accuse him of trying to shut people down by calling them Cucks, you muppet? thorshairspray, triggered, throws tantrums. Almost poetic. I wonder if I'm going to try to say this 5 times in a row... Of yourse you have never shouted anyone down with "RACISM". You have claimed that others tried to do this; shouting down people with your opinion with "RACISM". No one did it on this thread; but in the real world, it happens. You see: I made a concession and moved the goalposts. In other words: I gave you a taste of your own medicine. This leaves a question. Well, are you? EDIT: And about this: Cody DID call Cinemachinery "Cuckmachinery" on this thread. Nobody called you racist on this thread. Therefore, Cine's point is more justified than yours.
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 7, 2017 20:48:06 GMT
Now, you simpleton, exactly who am I trying to shut down by calling them racist? You? Cine? Rabbit? President Trump? The Tooth Fairy? I didn't call anyone a racist you moron. I simply gave the counterpoint to Cinemachinery's point. A point you and Cupcakes and Cody have aptly demonstrated. Cine and myself were having a conversation and you three pricks have steamed in to try and shut down the person you don't like, Cody with Cine and You and Cupcakes with me and you're the worst one because you have flat out lied. Oh and are you going to quote this part of what Cine said And accuse him of trying to shut people down by calling them Cucks, you muppet? thorshairspray, triggered, throws tantrums. Almost poetic. I wonder if I'm going to try to say this 5 times in a row... Of yourse you have never shouted anyone down with "RACISM". You have claimed that others tried to do this; shouting down people with your opinion with "RACISM". No one did it on this thread; but in the real world, it happens. You see: I made a concession and moved the goalposts. In other words: I gave you a taste of your own medicine. This leaves a question. Well, are you? EDIT: And about this: Cody DID call Cinemachinery "Cuckmachinery" on this thread. Nobody called you racist on this thread. Therefore, Cine's point is more justified than yours. Yet you said I asked you then And you quoted And said So yes, you did say I tried to shut people down by calling them racist and you tried to show where I had done so. And now you are trying to claim you didn't do exactly what I quoted you doing. Because you are not big enough to admit error. Bullshit. Laughably pathetic attempt to avoid admitting your mistake. So go call Cody on that. I asked you a question and once more you have avoided it.
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Post by phludowin on Jun 7, 2017 21:24:18 GMT
So go call Cody on that. I asked you a question and once more you have avoided it.No I didn't. Two kids hold up balls. One kid (let's call him Mac) holds up a blue ball, one kid (let's call him Ray) holds up a green ball. Both shout: "I have a blue ball!" I tell Ray: "No you haven't. Your ball is green". Ray throws a tantrum and whines: "I said the exact same thing as Mac! Why aren't you calling Mac on saying that he has a blue ball?" Me: "Mac's ball is blue." Ray: "You didn't answer my question! Why didn't you call Mac out?" Me: (gets bored and leaves).
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 8, 2017 0:21:02 GMT
So go call Cody on that. I asked you a question and once more you have avoided it.No I didn't. Two kids hold up balls. One kid (let's call him Mac) holds up a blue ball, one kid (let's call him Ray) holds up a green ball. Both shout: "I have a blue ball!" I tell Ray: "No you haven't. Your ball is green". Ray throws a tantrum and whines: "I said the exact same thing as Mac! Why aren't you calling Mac on saying that he has a blue ball?" Me: "Mac's ball is blue." Ray: "You didn't answer my question! Why didn't you call Mac out?" Me: (gets bored and leaves). Yes, you did, you dishonest knob. I asked you why you didn't accuse Cine of calling people Cucks, when he made the same point I did.....You have avoided it by pointing at Cody and saying "He did it.!!" And your little analogy only works if I was calling people racist and Cine wasn't calling people Cucks. But you just said in your previous post that you were not saying I was actually calling people racist....Are you attempting to change your story so much I get dizzy? Grow some balls, admit your error, retract it and grow up.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 8, 2017 0:29:44 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 8, 2017 0:45:34 GMT
This. Arguments about "no true... would ever" are sort of just academic. They certainly don't win over the hearts and minds of those outside the religion who judge the group by the individual. I don't think a "real Christian" would murder someone in cold blood, but Paul Jennings Hill... still Christian. Islam has no hierarchy unlike Christianity, so there is no ultimate definition of what the Quran means. There is no Pope or Archbishop to give the final verdict on what things like 5:33 actually mean. How can anyone legitimately say that Muslim who kills a non Muslim based on this text is not a "true" Muslim? There is no central body to determine what "corruption" might be, so if an Imam says Katy Perry is causing corruption, then the followers of that Imam have no reason to not believe him. Check this out if you get chance. This is in the UK www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btx0mm5KCMI
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 8, 2017 3:37:43 GMT
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Post by phludowin on Jun 8, 2017 5:31:07 GMT
I asked you why you didn't accuse Cine of calling people Cucks, when he made the same point I did.....You have avoided it by pointing at Cody and saying "He did it.!!" And your little analogy only works if I was calling people racist and Cine wasn't calling people Cucks. But you just said in your previous post that you were not saying I was actually calling people racist....Are you attempting to change your story so much I get dizzy? Grow some balls, admit your error, retract it and grow up. I see. My suspicion has been confirmed: It was a misunderstanding. To clarify: I didn't accuse you of shouting people down with "Racist"; I accused you of accusing people shouting you down with "Racist". That's what I meant to say, but maybe I was unclear. EDIT: Cupcakes got what I meant to say.
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Post by thorshairspray on Jun 8, 2017 23:31:29 GMT
I asked you why you didn't accuse Cine of calling people Cucks, when he made the same point I did.....You have avoided it by pointing at Cody and saying "He did it.!!" And your little analogy only works if I was calling people racist and Cine wasn't calling people Cucks. But you just said in your previous post that you were not saying I was actually calling people racist....Are you attempting to change your story so much I get dizzy? Grow some balls, admit your error, retract it and grow up. I see. My suspicion has been confirmed: It was a misunderstanding. To clarify: I didn't accuse you of shouting people down with "Racist"; I accused you of accusing people shouting you down with "Racist". That's what I meant to say, but maybe I was unclear. EDIT: Cupcakes got what I meant to say. So when you said "Except for thorshairspray and Cody, nobody on this thread shouted anyone down with "Racist" " You actually meant " I accused you of accusing people shouting you down with "Racist"" But that doesn't work because you included Cody and would be utterly nonsensical, because yes, I said that.....On top of that you tried to justify your initial claim by answering the following question "Care to quote me shouting anyone down with "racist" " Any misunderstanding is by YOU not me. YOU misread what I said to accuse me of something I didn't do and after trying to justify it and failing you are somehow trying to make out I misunderstood. Man up.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 8, 2017 23:39:23 GMT
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