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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 30, 2023 2:10:09 GMT
So predictably you wigged out because I brought up how this is similar to the comics. It's not like the comics at all. Was there a Super Skrull that duplicated like 50 different characters' powers at once? No, there wasn't. You never make any valid points. "Why? Why not?" I explained why not in the post you replied to, you just couldn't come up with an argument. Are you trolling or are you really this stupid? I'll let you decide. She didn't have 50 peoples' powers. And most of them are only that strong when combined together in the same way Super Skrulls are.
I suppose you'll hate on Legion from X-Men next.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 30, 2023 2:11:25 GMT
Well I don't doubt some dumbasses out there called Skye/Daisy a Mary Sue, mostly because no one really knows the real meaning behind that word and it became popular because a bunch of paint eaters found the page about it on urban dictionary and started abusing it, I think it's pretty clear that she became one of the most liked female characters that Marvel produced for the MCU. Daisy Johnson is actually a good case study for anyone who wants to write a strong female character that ISN'T a Mary Sue. Too many people throw around the Mary Sue title without really understanding what it is. She's an example of how if the character isn't a useless shrieking damsel and she's not portrayed as secondary to a white male, she'll be called a Mary Sue no matter what and there might be some small change as time goes on but they can never really shake that off.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 30, 2023 3:05:20 GMT
Daisy Johnson is actually a good case study for anyone who wants to write a strong female character that ISN'T a Mary Sue. Too many people throw around the Mary Sue title without really understanding what it is. She's an example of how if the character isn't a useless shrieking damsel and she's not portrayed as secondary to a white male, she'll be called a Mary Sue no matter what and there might be some small change as time goes on but they can never really shake that off. Cool story bro, but so far you've proven that only a very few people call Daisy a Mary Sue outside of your own imagination. So troll better next time.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 30, 2023 21:34:43 GMT
She's an example of how if the character isn't a useless shrieking damsel and she's not portrayed as secondary to a white male, she'll be called a Mary Sue no matter what and there might be some small change as time goes on but they can never really shake that off. Cool story bro, but so far you've proven that only a very few people call Daisy a Mary Sue outside of your own imagination. So troll better next time. They still call her that. Which shows just how biased the "fans" are against leading ladies in the MCU.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 30, 2023 21:47:32 GMT
Cool story bro, but so far you've proven that only a very few people call Daisy a Mary Sue outside of your own imagination. So troll better next time. They still call her that. Which shows just how biased the "fans" are against leading ladies in the MCU. Sure dude, you keep telling yourself that. Maybe next time do better than a reddit thread that's 7 yrs old with only 2-3 people making the complaint.
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Post by Sam Raimi on Jul 31, 2023 2:25:15 GMT
Nice try, but I am not going to fall for any of your endless trap debates. I know exactly how this will continue to play out, and I know you will keep it going on as long as you get a response. Bottom line, the series isn't high quality television, it isn't doing well in the ratings, and there is no anticipation for its finale next week. Marvel Studios should have done better. "It isn't doing well in the ratings and there is no anticipation for its finale next week"
That's what happened in Breaking Bad S1 and Wire S1.
You’re a fucking kook!
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 2, 2023 18:52:51 GMT
It's not like the comics at all. Was there a Super Skrull that duplicated like 50 different characters' powers at once? No, there wasn't. You never make any valid points. "Why? Why not?" I explained why not in the post you replied to, you just couldn't come up with an argument. Are you trolling or are you really this stupid? I'll let you decide. She didn't have 50 peoples' powers. And most of them are only that strong when combined together in the same way Super Skrulls are.
I suppose you'll hate on Legion from X-Men next.
Here's the list. 20 characters (at least). Some of those characters were never shown at the battle in Endgame, so do we assume they collected that DNA elsewhere? They never did anything remotely close to this for super skrulls in the comics. That's too many powers to make any character remotely interesting. How they got the DNA for Korg (a rock) or from the villains that were literally turned to dust, we'll never know. You brought up Legion. He's usually a villain (which goes to my previous point about Superman) or at the very least an obstacle for the team to contend with, as he's completely out of his mind. So there's a counterbalance to all of that power. I'm guessing you never actually read the comics, much like you don't read the links or watch the videos you post as arguments. But all of this is beside the point. I could make a long list of dumb ideas from various comic storylines over the decades, and the fact that they exist isn't a defense for their translation onto the screen. Regardless, the comics never went to this level of extremes with the Super Skrulls, so you need to come up with something else.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 3, 2023 0:38:08 GMT
She didn't have 50 peoples' powers. And most of them are only that strong when combined together in the same way Super Skrulls are.
I suppose you'll hate on Legion from X-Men next.
Here's the list. 20 characters (at least). Some of those characters were never shown at the battle in Endgame, so do we assume they collected that DNA elsewhere? They never did anything remotely close to this for super skrulls in the comics. That's too many powers to make any character remotely interesting. How they got the DNA for Korg (a rock) or from the villains that were literally turned to dust, we'll never know. You brought up Legion. He's usually a villain (which goes to my previous point about Superman) or at the very least an obstacle for the team to contend with, as he's completely out of his mind. So there's a counterbalance to all of that power. I'm guessing you never actually read the comics, much like you don't read the links or watch the videos you post as arguments. But all of this is beside the point. I could make a long list of dumb ideas from various comic storylines over the decades, and the fact that they exist isn't a defense for their translation onto the screen. Regardless, the comics never went to this level of extremes with the Super Skrulls, so you need to come up with something else. Yes they did do this in the comics, and they gave us other characters like Mimic and Super Adaptoid too.
Legion isn't always a villain, in fact he often isn't. His insanity really isn't an obstacle either most of the time, just when it's convenient to the plot.
Seriously, the "fans" complain about lack of fidelity to the source material and then complain when things from the comics get adapted.
MCU can't win, it's "fans" have shown their true natures.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 3, 2023 1:38:19 GMT
Yes they did do this in the comics, and they gave us other characters like Mimic and Super Adaptoid too.
Legion isn't always a villain, in fact he often isn't. His insanity really isn't an obstacle either most of the time, just when it's convenient to the plot.
Seriously, the "fans" complain about lack of fidelity to the source material and then complain when things from the comics get adapted.
MCU can't win, it's "fans" have shown their true natures.
No, they didn't. Not on this scale. Stop making up nonsensical arguments. "Fans complain when it isn't faithful, then complain when it is." This isn't faithful to the comics, and it would suck even if it was. Good try, though.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 4, 2023 0:29:25 GMT
Yes they did do this in the comics, and they gave us other characters like Mimic and Super Adaptoid too.
Legion isn't always a villain, in fact he often isn't. His insanity really isn't an obstacle either most of the time, just when it's convenient to the plot.
Seriously, the "fans" complain about lack of fidelity to the source material and then complain when things from the comics get adapted.
MCU can't win, it's "fans" have shown their true natures.
No, they didn't. Not on this scale. Stop making up nonsensical arguments. "Fans complain when it isn't faithful, then complain when it is." This isn't faithful to the comics, and it would suck even if it was. Good try, though. The Super-Adaptoid, Mimic, The X-Men version of Super Skrull who copied numerous mutant powers.
Oh and the Super Skrulls Battalions in the Secret Invasion comics had many powers beyond just the FFs.
Why are you fine with them, but not her?
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Post by darkpast on Aug 4, 2023 0:47:15 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 4, 2023 1:18:40 GMT
No, they didn't. Not on this scale. Stop making up nonsensical arguments. "Fans complain when it isn't faithful, then complain when it is." This isn't faithful to the comics, and it would suck even if it was. Good try, though. The Super-Adaptoid, Mimic, The X-Men version of Super Skrull who copied numerous mutant powers.
Oh and the Super Skrulls Battalions in the Secret Invasion comics had many powers beyond just the FFs.
Why are you fine with them, but not her?
I can and have answered that. Once again, those characters are villains. Villains designed to take on entire teams of heroes on their own. There is nothing compelling about a hero who has that many powers. As suspected, you don't even read people's posts, you just argue for the sake of arguing. You know, like a troll.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 6, 2023 1:46:17 GMT
The Super-Adaptoid, Mimic, The X-Men version of Super Skrull who copied numerous mutant powers.
Oh and the Super Skrulls Battalions in the Secret Invasion comics had many powers beyond just the FFs.
Why are you fine with them, but not her?
I can and have answered that. Once again, those characters are villains. Villains designed to take on entire teams of heroes on their own. There is nothing compelling about a hero who has that many powers. As suspected, you don't even read people's posts, you just argue for the sake of arguing. You know, like a troll. Oh, but when it happens to Rogue it's fine and no one complains? Because it's happened.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 6, 2023 3:00:01 GMT
I can and have answered that. Once again, those characters are villains. Villains designed to take on entire teams of heroes on their own. There is nothing compelling about a hero who has that many powers. As suspected, you don't even read people's posts, you just argue for the sake of arguing. You know, like a troll. Oh, but when it happens to Rogue it's fine and no one complains? Because it's happened. Send me the fucking comic book and I'll complain about that too.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 6, 2023 14:31:08 GMT
Oh, but when it happens to Rogue it's fine and no one complains? Because it's happened. Send me the fucking comic book and I'll complain about that too. In X-Men: Second Coming, Cable and Hope come from the future seeking Hope’s parents. Inexplicably, Rogue could sense Hope’s presence, even though she’s not telepathic. Even Emma Frost was baffled by this unique connection. Since they were connected, the team agreed that Rogue should be Hope’s protector. Their travels would be dangerous, so the X-Men “loaned” Rogue their powers for the job. She had the bone claws and regenerative abilities of Wolverine and X-23. She had Psylocke’s telekinetic abilities. She had the wings and flight of Angel, and the metal skin and super strength of Colossus. She held all at once. And with their powers, she was able to hold her own against Bastion and his league of Sentinels.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 6, 2023 17:09:25 GMT
Send me the fucking comic book and I'll complain about that too. In X-Men: Second Coming, Cable and Hope come from the future seeking Hope’s parents. Inexplicably, Rogue could sense Hope’s presence, even though she’s not telepathic. Even Emma Frost was baffled by this unique connection. Since they were connected, the team agreed that Rogue should be Hope’s protector. Their travels would be dangerous, so the X-Men “loaned” Rogue their powers for the job. She had the bone claws and regenerative abilities of Wolverine and X-23. She had Psylocke’s telekinetic abilities. She had the wings and flight of Angel, and the metal skin and super strength of Colossus. She held all at once. And with their powers, she was able to hold her own against Bastion and his league of Sentinels. Seems like less than 20 powers to me.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 7, 2023 1:49:49 GMT
In X-Men: Second Coming, Cable and Hope come from the future seeking Hope’s parents. Inexplicably, Rogue could sense Hope’s presence, even though she’s not telepathic. Even Emma Frost was baffled by this unique connection. Since they were connected, the team agreed that Rogue should be Hope’s protector. Their travels would be dangerous, so the X-Men “loaned” Rogue their powers for the job. She had the bone claws and regenerative abilities of Wolverine and X-23. She had Psylocke’s telekinetic abilities. She had the wings and flight of Angel, and the metal skin and super strength of Colossus. She held all at once. And with their powers, she was able to hold her own against Bastion and his league of Sentinels. Seems like less than 20 powers to me. Same overall effect of her being a one-person army.
But I expected you to excuse her but not someone else.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 7, 2023 2:37:17 GMT
Seems like less than 20 powers to me. Same overall effect of her being a one-person army.
But I expected you to excuse her but not someone else.
It is a dumb storyline, I never liked Rogue. But it's temporary, and it isn't 20 powers. G'iah is a permanent one man army. But I expected you not to have an argument.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 7, 2023 13:50:35 GMT
Same overall effect of her being a one-person army.
But I expected you to excuse her but not someone else.
It is a dumb storyline, I never liked Rogue. But it's temporary, and it isn't 20 powers. G'iah is a permanent one man army. But I expected you not to have an argument. So G'iah is like the Sentry, or Blue Marvel, or full power Rogue or older Adam Warlock.
Somehow I don't think you'll complain about them, a lot of double standards have been revealed the last few years.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 7, 2023 14:09:55 GMT
It is a dumb storyline, I never liked Rogue. But it's temporary, and it isn't 20 powers. G'iah is a permanent one man army. But I expected you not to have an argument. So G'iah is like the Sentry, or Blue Marvel, or full power Rogue or older Adam Warlock.
Somehow I don't think you'll complain about them, a lot of double standards have been revealed the last few years.
Wrong, I don't like any of those characters. Sentry sucks, and I've never read a Blue Marvel story. I'm vaguely aware of his existence. Any other questions?
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