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Post by moviemouth on Mar 1, 2024 0:42:18 GMT
2024 has officially begun in terms of film.
I am just going to be very brief and might add more later. The story is fine, but nothing we haven't seen before and seen written better. Interesting to think the Dune novel is what inspired all the movies that make this story feel so redundant of other films, but that is just the way it goes. The dialogue is serviceable but forgettable.
It might seem strange that I am going to give this movie such a high rating considering what I just wrote, but this movie is visually and stylistically breathtaking and does a great job of evoking the feel of 1980s fantasy films. Far surpasses the first in this regard. The red toned desert action scene in the opening of the movie and a black and white gladiator scene under a black sun with fireworks that look like inkblots are just a few of the great visual scenes in this movie.
8.5/10
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Post by kolchak92 on Mar 1, 2024 0:44:12 GMT
How was Chris Walken as the emperor?
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 1, 2024 0:51:18 GMT
You think I'll like it?
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 1, 2024 0:52:18 GMT
How was Chris Walken as the emperor? Good. He is very toned down for the most part. He has less than 10 minutes of screentime though.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 1, 2024 0:57:51 GMT
I think it depends on how much you like the visual style of the movie. How much the world pulls you in. This movie is better at it than the first movie imo.
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Post by ck100 on Mar 1, 2024 1:25:14 GMT
Seems like this movie is similar to Avatar in terms of the criticism - story, dialogue, visuals, etc.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 1, 2024 1:27:21 GMT
I think it depends on how much you like the visual style of the movie. How much the world pulls you in. This movie is better at it than the first movie imo. Well, put it this way: what percent of the movie involves characterization and story, and what percent is epic landscape shots with Hans Zimmer blaring?
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Post by kolchak92 on Mar 1, 2024 1:28:49 GMT
Do you think Austin Butler's performance is worthy of all the hype it's getting?
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 1, 2024 1:36:49 GMT
Seems like this movie is similar to Avatar in terms of the criticism - story, dialogue, visuals, etc. The writing is better than Avatar.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 1, 2024 1:38:45 GMT
Do you think Austin Butler's performance is worthy of all the hype it's getting? It is certainly a memorable performance and he is one of the highlights of the movie, but he is not an all-time great villain or anything like that.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 1, 2024 1:45:56 GMT
I think it depends on how much you like the visual style of the movie. How much the world pulls you in. This movie is better at it than the first movie imo. Well, put it this way: what percent of the movie involves characterization and story, and what percent is epic landscape shots with Hans Zimmer blaring? It is more the latter, but this movie does have more characterization than the first thanks to Javier Bardem and Zendaya. Zimmer is actually toned down here.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 1, 2024 2:04:32 GMT
Well, put it this way: what percent of the movie involves characterization and story, and what percent is epic landscape shots with Hans Zimmer blaring? It is more the latter, but this movie does have more characterization than the first thanks to Javier Bardem and Zendaya. Zimmer is actually toned down here. Kinda reassuring.
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Post by janntosh on Mar 10, 2024 16:48:43 GMT
It's damn good. I did think Paul's transformation to potential tyrant felt a little rushed though. Also is Zendaya supposed to be a good actress? Does she do anything but scowl in her movies?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 10, 2024 20:32:34 GMT
It is excellent cinema, but the alterations made to the source material make me question how they are going to do Messiah properly. Chani never questioned Paul Ateides being a prophet, her attitude was like that of every other Fremen in complete worship of him. However, in this movie Chani is part of a group of Fremen who rebel against the religious customs of everyone else. Chani also only takes slight issue with Paul marrying the princess at first, but is assured by Lady Jessica that the marriage is only a political one, publicly everyone will recognize her (Chani) as his real lover, and her concerns go away. Irulan doesn't go on to give birth to any of Paul's children, their mother is Chani. In fact, Irulan is generally the sole chronicler of Dune, because her husband is too busy with political matters, his children, and Chani, she is left to pass the time by documenting what has transpired in history.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 10, 2024 20:37:09 GMT
It's damn good. I did think Paul's transformation to potential tyrant felt a little rushed though. Also is Zendaya supposed to be a good actress? Does she do anything but scowl in her movies? I think Zendaya was cast mostly to draw in the younger crowd of cinema goers.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Mar 11, 2024 9:39:51 GMT
Whenever Christopher Walken was on screen, I just couldn’t take him seriously. “The spice… is gonna flow!”
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 11, 2024 12:13:02 GMT
I think it depends on how much you like the visual style of the movie. How much the world pulls you in. This movie is better at it than the first movie imo. Well, put it this way: what percent of the movie involves characterization and story, and what percent is epic landscape shots with Hans Zimmer blaring? I've seen it twice now, and I liked it a lot more the second time. It still leans heavily on 'atmosphere' as opposed to story and characterization, and the Zimmer score never stops beating you over the head. Still, I appreciated Paul's journey much more on the second viewing, and if you concentrate on that as well as the world building regarding the Fremen and their culture, it's an intriguing watch. It's easy to get distracted by the over the top Harkonnens and the dependence on that score (which for my money is great at times, despite being overwhelming), but by the end of the movie, you'll feel like there was a point to all of this, which is more than I can say about Part One.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 12, 2024 4:58:28 GMT
I thought the first one ended just as it was getting interesting. Sure enough I found this a lot more engaging. Paul on his anti-hero's journey blowing shit up in the desert and riding worms. The campy performances from Butler and Bautista also gave the movie some welcome levity. Denis is a pretty self serious guy, so these dudes chewing scenery like little White Castle hamburgers was fine by me.
I do wonder if this couldn't have all been one movie, though. They could have wrapped up the events of 1 in an hour - which I think Lynch did (his problem was having to rush subsequent events).
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 12, 2024 5:36:00 GMT
I thought the first one ended just as it was getting interesting. Sure enough I found this a lot more engaging. Paul on his anti-hero's journey blowing shit up in the desert and riding worms. The campy performances from Butler and Bautista also gave the movie some welcome levity. Denis is a pretty self serious guy, so these dudes chewing scenery like little White Castle hamburgers was fine by me. I do wonder if this couldn't have all been one movie, though. They could have wrapped up the events of 1 in an hour - which I think Lynch did (his problem was having to rush subsequent events). Glad to hear. You actually brought something up I didn't even think about. It is a bit campy and I think that is part of why I like it more than the first and part of what makes it feel in ways like an 80s fantasy movie.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 13, 2024 3:23:47 GMT
I thought the first one ended just as it was getting interesting. Sure enough I found this a lot more engaging. Paul on his anti-hero's journey blowing shit up in the desert and riding worms. The campy performances from Butler and Bautista also gave the movie some welcome levity. Denis is a pretty self serious guy, so these dudes chewing scenery like little White Castle hamburgers was fine by me. I do wonder if this couldn't have all been one movie, though. They could have wrapped up the events of 1 in an hour - which I think Lynch did (his problem was having to rush subsequent events). Glad to hear. You actually brought something up I didn't even think about. It is a bit campy and I think that is part of why I like it more than the first and part of what makes it feel in ways like an 80s fantasy movie. On that note, both big reasons I prefer the Lynch movie. At least to Part 1.
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