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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 10, 2024 19:05:50 GMT
Unless they end up being killed with kindness... How do you kill one with kindness, you kiss them to their death ? You purr and cuddle them to their demise ? Aunt Mary constantly sends Jane chocolates and cake and other goodies, even though she's been told Jane's on a diet and has diabetes. Result: early death.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 10, 2024 19:07:12 GMT
Er, about the kingdoms...do you care for st Augustine, his divide of the two cities, his kingdom of the Lord subsuming the kingdom of the emperors, fair war ( corrolary), or rather Machiavel, who hated the Christian church because of its global aim ( being an agnostic about these 2, I am). I can't say I have a strong opinion on any of this, sorry.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 10, 2024 23:38:14 GMT
How do you kill one with kindness, you kiss them to their death ? You purr and cuddle them to their demise ? Aunt Mary constantly sends Jane chocolates and cake and other goodies, even though she's been told Jane's on a diet and has diabetes. Result: early death. I’m not sure stupidity is not the raw fabric of the trial business. But it doesn’t make stupid unkind, or evil. When Auntie knows about the condition, sending the sweets is not the kindest course to Jane. On the contrary, knowing that Jane should dispatch the sweets to others, in her early days sounds almost cruel, even given the fact that Jane should be an angel and be happy for the occasion of doing good.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 10, 2024 23:44:32 GMT
How do you kill one with kindness, you kiss them to their death ? You purr and cuddle them to their demise ? "If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." -Proverbs 25:21-22 Heaping burning coals on someone else’s head must have been practiced by some if the sentence was available in the mind of the writer... That’s a bit disturbing.
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Post by Admin on Jun 10, 2024 23:53:33 GMT
"If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." -Proverbs 25:21-22 Heaping burning coals on someone else’s head must have been practiced by some if the sentence was available in the mind of the writer... That’s a bit disturbing. It has something to do with a old custom of getting live coals from a neighbor to restart your fire if it goes out and carrying them back in a pan on your head. Something like that, anyway, but that isn't the point.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 11, 2024 0:07:05 GMT
Heaping burning coals on someone else’s head must have been practiced by some if the sentence was available in the mind of the writer... That’s a bit disturbing. It has something to do with a old custom of getting live coals from a neighbor to restart your fire if it goes out and carrying them back in a pan on your head. Something like that, anyway, but that isn't the point. Could be interesting wise to mention the pan, then, imho. Otherwise, it’s ghastly.
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Post by Admin on Jun 11, 2024 0:07:44 GMT
It has something to do with a old custom of getting live coals from a neighbor to restart your fire if it goes out and carrying them back in a pan on your head. Something like that, anyway, but that isn't the point. Could be interesting wise to mention the pan, then, imho. Otherwise, it’s ghastly. Again, not the point.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 11, 2024 15:55:32 GMT
Could be interesting wise to mention the pan, then, imho. Otherwise, it’s ghastly. Again, not the point. We’ve been there before, dear. Me being an agnostic. What’s being nice and who decides.
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Post by Admin on Jun 11, 2024 19:01:59 GMT
We’ve been there before, dear. Me being an agnostic. What’s being nice and who decides. Still not the point.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 11, 2024 19:19:30 GMT
Aunt Mary constantly sends Jane chocolates and cake and other goodies, even though she's been told Jane's on a diet and has diabetes. Result: early death. I’m not sure stupidity is not the raw fabric of the trial business. But it doesn’t make stupid unkind, or evil. When Auntie knows about the condition, sending the sweets is not the kindest course to Jane. On the contrary, knowing that Jane should dispatch the sweets to others, in her early days sounds almost cruel, even given the fact that Jane should be an angel and be happy for the occasion of doing good. Here one is reminded of the old adage, that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 12, 2024 2:05:13 GMT
I’m not sure stupidity is not the raw fabric of the trial business. But it doesn’t make stupid unkind, or evil. When Auntie knows about the condition, sending the sweets is not the kindest course to Jane. On the contrary, knowing that Jane should dispatch the sweets to others, in her early days sounds almost cruel, even given the fact that Jane should be an angel and be happy for the occasion of doing good. Here one is reminded of the old adage, that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Adage, fromage. Again, what’s wrong with being nice to each others ?
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Post by transfuged on Jun 12, 2024 2:07:50 GMT
We’ve been there before, dear. Me being an agnostic. What’s being nice and who decides. Still not the point. I know it’s going to hurt, but, what is it called a point for ? Why not a soft touch square angle ?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 12, 2024 11:16:59 GMT
Here one is reminded of the old adage, that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Adage, fromage. Again, what’s wrong with being nice to each others Nothing at all in principle. But just to repeat what I have said, one can kill with kindness. That is why the Golden Rule, in whatever iteration down the millennia ("Do unto others as you would want to be done to") sensibly allows for an element of degree in the equation.
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Post by Admin on Jun 12, 2024 11:54:43 GMT
Adage, fromage. Again, what’s wrong with being nice to each others Nothing at all in principle. But just to repeat what I have said, one can kill with kindness. That is why the Golden Rule, in whatever iteration down the millennia ("Do unto others as you would want to be done to") sensibly allows for an element of degree in the equation. Beware of suicidal people.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 12, 2024 13:38:44 GMT
Adage, fromage. Again, what’s wrong with being nice to each others Nothing at all in principle. But just to repeat what I have said, one can kill with kindness. That is why the Golden Rule, in whatever iteration down the millennia ("Do unto others as you would want to be done to") sensibly allows for an element of degree in the equation. Seriously, how does one kill with with kindness per se ? Doesn’t it depends on how kindness is defined and/or by whom ? Has ”Jesus” , well, the message, given hints at overriding the 1 shall not kill command ?
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Post by transfuged on Jun 12, 2024 13:44:01 GMT
Nothing at all in principle. But just to repeat what I have said, one can kill with kindness. That is why the Golden Rule, in whatever iteration down the millennia ("Do unto others as you would want to be done to") sensibly allows for an element of degree in the equation. Beware of suicidal people. M’nn b’g’ pardon? What ?! Is it ’bout ”that’ll teach th’m a lssn’ part of h g ? (Not drunk. Bone tired. 2 hours sleep 72 h despair power)
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 12, 2024 14:36:25 GMT
Nothing at all in principle. But just to repeat what I have said, one can kill with kindness. That is why the Golden Rule, in whatever iteration down the millennia ("Do unto others as you would want to be done to") sensibly allows for an element of degree in the equation. Seriously, how does one kill with with kindness per se ? Doesn’t it depends on how kindness is defined and/or by whom ? Has ”Jesus” , well, the message, given hints at overriding the 1 shall not kill command ? Indeed it does depend on a definition of kindness, a notion which like 'good' requires context and perspective. But one can easily think of examples when good intentions can ultimately lead to bad outcomes. For instance in America the right to bear arms was framed in the context of a wild frontier and some desperate times in American history. Today the country has been left with one of the highest homicide rates in the world.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 12, 2024 16:12:38 GMT
Seriously, how does one kill with with kindness per se ? Doesn’t it depends on how kindness is defined and/or by whom ? Has ”Jesus” , well, the message, given hints at overriding the 1 shall not kill command ? Indeed it does depend on a definition of kindness, a notion which like 'good' requires context and perspective. But one can easily think of examples when good intentions can ultimately lead to bad outcomes. For instance in America the right to bear arms was framed in the context of a wild frontier and some desperate times in American history. Today the country has been left with one of the highest homicide rates in the world. ”be nice to each others”, verb, to Be, not, one time out of seven, think about it it then have a good laugh... Intention, indeed. You write about killing. Actually destroying someone, with niceness on your mind ? Intending and being, not same verb, not same thing. Not try not to kill, don’t kill.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 12, 2024 19:19:53 GMT
You write about killing. Actually destroying someone, with niceness on your mind ? Intending and being, not same verb, not same thing. Not try not to kill, don’t kill. There is a difference, it hardly ought to be said, between killing and murder. For instance many countries are coming around to the notion that voluntary euthanasia to end personal suffering, with all the right safeguards, might be a good idea. Scripture itself demonstrates a distinction between justified killing and the unjustified.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 12, 2024 22:33:02 GMT
You write about killing. Actually destroying someone, with niceness on your mind ? Intending and being, not same verb, not same thing. Not try not to kill, don’t kill. There is a difference, it hardly ought to be said, between killing and murder. For instance many countries are coming around to the notion that voluntary euthanasia to end personal suffering, with all the right safeguards, might be a good idea. Scripture itself demonstrates a distinction between justified killing and the unjustified. Mph. We ’bin there too. Murder, assassination, legal constructions. Christian ten commands are commands, not vague. Do not destroy life. Not, oh, almost do not kill... Again, not in the same register, times, writers, religious authorities. Back to niceness, again, nice gestures, behaviors, are not made with lethal tools. ”putting” an animal ”to sleep”, nice ? Destruction of life, nice ? No. Actual death is never ”nice”, does not look nice, does not feel nice. Watch it once happening, that’s once too many.
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