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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 17:21:42 GMT
Yeah, finally saw this, and it doesn't fit with the dreck that is the rest of the DCEU at all. In fact, it's too good to be a part of the DCEU. And boy, does it really play out just like a Marvel movie. This is WB/DC throwing up their hands and surrendering their darker and edgier take. The hero in this film is actually altruistic (a first for the DCEU, which has been running strictly on Ayn Rand logic until now), the tone is dark, but not bleak, and there's ACTUAL FUN AND HUMOR, oh, and the quipping! It stars Chris Pine, so there is a decent amount of quipping, so you MCU-haters are going to have to give that complaint up. Instead of trying to make the villain the star, he stays in his role as a part of the supporting cast while the film concerns itself mostly with Diana and Trevor from character development standpoints. The fights scenes are intense, but fun, and very creative. It's on par with the better parts of the MCU, but WB/DC still has a long ways to go.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy this very good MCU film, DC fans.
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Post by brownstones on Jun 7, 2017 18:09:52 GMT
Yeah, finally saw this, and it doesn't fit with the dreck that is the rest of the DCEU at all. In fact, it's too good to be a part of the DCEU. And boy, does it really play out just like a Marvel movie. This is WB/DC throwing up their hands and surrendering their darker and edgier take. The hero in this film is actually altruistic (a first for the DCEU, which has been running strictly on Ayn Rand logic until now), the tone is dark, but not bleak, and there's ACTUAL FUN AND HUMOR, oh, and the quipping! It stars Chris Pine, so there is a decent amount of quipping, so you MCU-haters are going to have to give that complaint up. Instead of trying to make the villain the star, he stays in his role as a part of the supporting cast while the film concerns itself mostly with Diana and Trevor from character development standpoints. The fights scenes are intense, but fun, and very creative. It's on par with the better parts of the MCU, but WB/DC still has a long ways to go. Anyway, I hope you enjoy this very good MCU film, DC fans. ........*shaking head*
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Post by primeone on Jun 7, 2017 18:47:24 GMT
Yeah, finally saw this, and it doesn't fit with the dreck that is the rest of the DCEU at all. In fact, it's too good to be a part of the DCEU. And boy, does it really play out just like a Marvel movie. This is WB/DC throwing up their hands and surrendering their darker and edgier take. The hero in this film is actually altruistic (a first for the DCEU, which has been running strictly on Ayn Rand logic until now), the tone is dark, but not bleak, and there's ACTUAL FUN AND HUMOR, oh, and the quipping! It stars Chris Pine, so there is a decent amount of quipping, so you MCU-haters are going to have to give that complaint up. Instead of trying to make the villain the star, he stays in his role as a part of the supporting cast while the film concerns itself mostly with Diana and Trevor from character development standpoints. The fights scenes are intense, but fun, and very creative. It's on par with the better parts of the MCU, but WB/DC still has a long ways to go. Anyway, I hope you enjoy this very good MCU film, DC fans. Haters still have to find a way to nitpick
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 19:00:42 GMT
Yeah, finally saw this, and it doesn't fit with the dreck that is the rest of the DCEU at all. In fact, it's too good to be a part of the DCEU. And boy, does it really play out just like a Marvel movie. This is WB/DC throwing up their hands and surrendering their darker and edgier take. The hero in this film is actually altruistic (a first for the DCEU, which has been running strictly on Ayn Rand logic until now), the tone is dark, but not bleak, and there's ACTUAL FUN AND HUMOR, oh, and the quipping! It stars Chris Pine, so there is a decent amount of quipping, so you MCU-haters are going to have to give that complaint up. Instead of trying to make the villain the star, he stays in his role as a part of the supporting cast while the film concerns itself mostly with Diana and Trevor from character development standpoints. The fights scenes are intense, but fun, and very creative. It's on par with the better parts of the MCU, but WB/DC still has a long ways to go. Anyway, I hope you enjoy this very good MCU film, DC fans. although I don't agree entirely with you as I think WW has enough diferences in tone, visuals to make a unique movie in DC style I'm laughing my ass of reading the barbaric stuff DC-Fan has been saying about how this movie is waaay better than MCU when they clearly and finally adopted some of the MCU stuff that he never liked becaus DCEU was going in other direction. Weak villains, humor those kinds of stuff. It's been a blast. I truly can see him making up excuses that make perfect sense in his head. HAHAHAHA It's a shame for him that the most celebrated and critical praise goes for a movie that is so similar with the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 19:05:49 GMT
Yeah, finally saw this, and it doesn't fit with the dreck that is the rest of the DCEU at all. In fact, it's too good to be a part of the DCEU. And boy, does it really play out just like a Marvel movie. This is WB/DC throwing up their hands and surrendering their darker and edgier take. The hero in this film is actually altruistic (a first for the DCEU, which has been running strictly on Ayn Rand logic until now), the tone is dark, but not bleak, and there's ACTUAL FUN AND HUMOR, oh, and the quipping! It stars Chris Pine, so there is a decent amount of quipping, so you MCU-haters are going to have to give that complaint up. Instead of trying to make the villain the star, he stays in his role as a part of the supporting cast while the film concerns itself mostly with Diana and Trevor from character development standpoints. The fights scenes are intense, but fun, and very creative. It's on par with the better parts of the MCU, but WB/DC still has a long ways to go. Anyway, I hope you enjoy this very good MCU film, DC fans. although I don't agree entirely with you as I think WW has enough diferences in tone, visuals to make a unique movie in DC style I'm laughing my ass of reading the barbaric stuff DC-Fan has been saying about how this movie is waaay better than MCU when they clearly and finally adopted some of the MCU stuff that he never liked becaus DCEU was going in other direction. Weak villains, humor those kinds of stuff. It's been a blast. I truly can see him making up excuses that make perfect sense in his head. HAHAHAHA It's a shame for him that the most celebrated and critical praise goes for a movie that is so similar with the MCU. Nah, it's just a total rip-off of the MCU. WB/DC were completely incapable of making any good comic book movies their way, so they had to copy Marvel.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jun 7, 2017 19:34:48 GMT
it's pretty hilarious.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 7, 2017 21:08:42 GMT
To be honest, DC fans really should have stopped with the whole "MCU has weak villains" dialogue long ago. DC has not produced a truly iconic villain since Ledger's Joker. Zod was ok but nothing special. Same way Iron Monger or Yellow Jacket are ok but not special. Bane was memorable but not great, same way Ultron was memorable but not great. Enchantress was completely forgettable, and Lex.... well, let's just say the MCU has not produced any villain as irritating as Lex.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:26:04 GMT
To be honest, DC fans really should have stopped with the whole "MCU has weak villains" dialogue long ago. DC has not produced a truly iconic villain since Ledger's Joker. Zod was ok but nothing special. Same way Iron Monger or Yellow Jacket are ok but not special. Bane was memorable but not great, same way Ultron was memorable but not great. Enchantress was completely forgettable, and Lex.... well, let's just say the MCU has not produced any villain as irritating as Lex. Pretty much, except I do count Ultron as a great villain. Absolutely loved him.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 8, 2017 4:03:30 GMT
I'm surprised DC-Fan hasn't showed up yet, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 4:12:01 GMT
I'm surprised DC-Fan hasn't showed up yet, lol. This topic is basically gift-wrapped for him, isn't him?
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Post by poelzig on Jun 8, 2017 4:12:45 GMT
Just when you think that op kid can't possibly get anymore pathetic he lowers the bar again. I would almost feel pity for him if he weren't such a douchebag.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 4:13:12 GMT
I'm surprised DC-Fan hasn't showed up yet, lol. This topic is basically gift-wrapped for him, isn't it?
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Post by miike80 on Jun 8, 2017 8:44:36 GMT
Yes, because the original Superman or Raimi's Spiderman trilogy had absolutely no humor. Good thing Marvel invented that thing called humor
And tbh WW uses the humor just as much as needed, as opposed to 90% of MCU
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 8, 2017 9:06:27 GMT
Yes, because the original Superman or Raimi's Spiderman trilogy had absolutely no humor. Good thing Marvel invented that thing called humor And thb WW uses the humor just as much as needed, as opposed to 90% of MCU Yep, if Wonder Woman were an MCU movie, there would be plenty of jokes and 1-liners during those scenes when they showed the injured and wounded (some with amputated limbs), the town burned and reduced to rubble, and women and children laying dead from poisonous gas. Wonder Woman acknowledges the horror and brutality of war. MCU movies turn wars into jokes and comedy shows.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 10:15:36 GMT
Yes, because the original Superman or Raimi's Spiderman trilogy had absolutely no humor. Good thing Marvel invented that thing called humor And thb WW uses the humor just as much as needed, as opposed to 90% of MCU Yep, if Wonder Woman were an MCU movie, there would be plenty of jokes and 1-liners during those scenes when they showed the injured and wounded (some with amputated limbs), the town burned and reduced to rubble, and women and children laying dead from poisonous gas. Wonder Woman acknowledges the horror and brutality of war. MCU movies turn wars into jokes and comedy shows. But still has them... The whole movie is not suffocating in it's own self importance like bvs. That's why it's great, it's light when it should and somber when it should like a lot of MCU movies. That equilibrium is what makes it work. It's so different from the other DCEU movies I'm amazed that you liked it. Oh wait that's because you have to like everything with a DC logo. Here, have a turd with the approval of the board of suits from DC. Love it and shut up. I'm just happy that you blind people don't spend enough and they still need to cater to the general audience or wonder woman would be 25% rated movie like the rest of the turds you swallow with delight.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 8, 2017 13:29:49 GMT
I hope Justice League follows suit. Judging by the newest trailer, I'd say it's headed in the right direction. Go figure, people want to have fun when they watch a superhero flick.
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 8, 2017 14:44:38 GMT
I hope Justice League follows suit. Judging by the newest trailer, I'd say it's headed in the right direction. Go figure, people want to have fun when they watch a superhero flick. Unfortunately, I'm still not 100% convinced that this will be as good as 'Wonder Woman'.
Right now, I'm predicting 'Justice League' to be more of a mixed bag.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 8, 2017 15:20:18 GMT
It's still very much a DCEU movie. We're just used to nitpicking the franchise's shortcomings that any immediate sign of competence is compared to the MCU.
Anyway, it's superficially similar to The First Avenger and perhaps Thor but it's definitely its own style and tone. I don't see certain things taking place in the MCU like the gas attack. It's more reminiscent of the Richard Donner Superman films but a tad heavier.
The more I think about it, if you place the flashback scenes from Man of Steel in line with the present, it's almost close to the basic narrative of Wonder Woman. "Hero grows up with a mysterious past, yearns for greater purpose, parental figure is overly cautious, hero meets worldly love interest, has to fight tyrannical villain, cannot rescue everyone, villain gives hero unbearable dillema, hero accepts their newfound role but is less idealistic".
I guess we can say that due to the wide gap between the two movies' reception that Wonder Woman did it far better (or at least less heavier).
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Post by northernlad on Jun 8, 2017 15:25:54 GMT
It's still very much a DCEU movie. We're just used to nitpicking the franchise's shortcomings that any immediate sign of competence is compared to the MCU. Anyway, it's superficially similar to The First Avenger and perhaps Thor but it's definitely its own style and tone. I don't see certain things taking place in the MCU like the gas attack. It's more reminiscent of the Richard Donner Superman films but a tad heavier. The more I think about it, if you place the flashback scenes from Man of Steel in line with the present, it's almost close to the basic narrative of Wonder Woman. "Hero grows up with a mysterious past, yearns for greater purpose, parental figure is overly cautious, hero meets worldly love interest, has to fight tyrannical villain, cannot rescue everyone, villain gives hero unbearable dillema, hero accepts their newfound role but is less idealistic". I guess we can say that due to the wide gap between the two movies' reception that Wonder Woman did it far better (or at least less heavier). I really like and agree with what you said here, especially that last part. Wonder Woman was done better and it is less heavier than MoS. I liked MoS when it came out...still do, but like you said I feel it's too heavy and seems to take itself too seriously. There isn't much that is fun in it...and adventurous...like WW.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 8, 2017 15:37:09 GMT
Again you prove that you don't really pay attention to their movies or supplemented media(TV) and are too blinded by your own ignorant generalizations to really understand the difference between being a comedy and being action/adventure. The majority of the battles in the MCU are not played out as jokes and usually have consequences that affect the characters and their world later on. Case in point, "The Incident"( The Chitauri invasion in the first Avengers) as a joke in the MCU, they are still referencing the event in their movies and shows, the central story of Daredevil season one wouldn't have happened without it( Hence why Kingpin says Hell's Kitchen must be "reborn", just to spell it out for you) and Jessica Jones( Oh yes, your least favorite show of all-time) had an episode where a woman dealing with PTSD because of her experience in the event, wanted to seek revenge on Jessica simply because she has super powers( Though as this point in the MCU Jessica has zero connection with The Avengers), i.e. "one of them".
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