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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 14, 2017 7:22:22 GMT
You don't know that there is no afterlife. You simply would prefer that there not be one.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 14, 2017 7:23:17 GMT
gadreel
It is amazing as to how quickly you grasp onto legal concepts .Perhaps it seems that way, but your boyfriend is clearly having difficulty understanding. There went another "clearly." |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 14, 2017 7:30:22 GMT
You're trying to be comical, aren't you? There was no reason to show her boobs. She wasn't going in for breast augmentation. Gee, whiz.  |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 14, 2017 7:44:48 GMT
I did a thread about the first one on the old board once. Did not know there was a remake until just now. Someone started a thread on another of these boards, so I went to the wonderful world of YouTube and found this trailer. Looks good. <video> As with the thread about the original "Flatliners" which I did on the old website, I have not marked this one OT because life-after-death stuff falls under the heading of RFS, and it's one of the things that the ungodly keep trying to tell us is impossible. In all honesty, I'm not sure I've got what it takes to have a death experience deliberately induced. If it happens on its own, then oh well, but to do it on purpose? I don't know. There's a chance that you can't come back. Or maybe.....just maybe it would be so much better there that you wouldn't want to come back.  Would anyone else be up for it, if for no other reason than to testify that there's nothing out there beyond physical death?  The most chilling line I remember from a movie was about how you couldn't kill the guy because he was already dead. I tried to get the original and the best I could find was from The Abominable Dr. Phibes. The premise to Flatliners seems to me just off in a way that might work in weird horror movies, but not real science. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 14, 2017 7:58:27 GMT
I did a thread about the first one on the old board once. Did not know there was a remake until just now. Someone started a thread on another of these boards, so I went to the wonderful world of YouTube and found this trailer. Looks good. <video> As with the thread about the original "Flatliners" which I did on the old website, I have not marked this one OT because life-after-death stuff falls under the heading of RFS, and it's one of the things that the ungodly keep trying to tell us is impossible. In all honesty, I'm not sure I've got what it takes to have a death experience deliberately induced. If it happens on its own, then oh well, but to do it on purpose? I don't know. There's a chance that you can't come back. Or maybe.....just maybe it would be so much better there that you wouldn't want to come back. Would anyone else be up for it, if for no other reason than to testify that there's nothing out there beyond physical death? The most chilling line I remember from a movie was about how you couldn't kill the guy because he was already dead. I tried to get the original and the best I could find was from The Abominable Dr. Phibes. The premise to Flatliners seems to me just off in a way that might work in weird horror movies, but not real science. I saw both of the Dr. Phibes moves, and they were creepy. Not as creepy as Superdude, but hey, what is? People have been clinically dead and later revived, and some of them said they never lost consciousness, and that they looked down on their own dead bodies. Some experienced heaven, or hell. I don't see why it would be different if a state of clinical death were to be artificially induced. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 14, 2017 8:16:56 GMT
The most chilling line I remember from a movie was about how you couldn't kill the guy because he was already dead. I tried to get the original and the best I could find was from The Abominable Dr. Phibes. The premise to Flatliners seems to me just off in a way that might work in weird horror movies, but not real science. I saw both of the Dr. Phibes moves, and they were creepy. Not as creepy as Superdude, but hey, what is? People have been clinically dead and later revived, and some of them said they never lost consciousness, and that they looked down on their own dead bodies. Some experienced heaven, or hell. I don't see why it would be different if a state of clinical death were to be artificially induced. Some things are better left to fiction. I suppose Colton Burpo's story might have important truth in it of some sort. I'm not sure that means he saw "heaven" as it might generally be experienced by others. Rather I suspect what he saw was merely a "vision" with some moral lesson. Perhaps the vision was from God, I can't say that. Maybe it was exactly what others will experience, I can't say that either. I would discourage deliberate attempts to find out by experiencing death or deathlike states. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 14, 2017 9:48:00 GMT
I did a thread about the first one on the old board once. Did not know there was a remake until just now. Someone started a thread on another of these boards, so I went to the wonderful world of YouTube and found this trailer. Looks good. <video> As with the thread about the original "Flatliners" which I did on the old website, I have not marked this one OT because life-after-death stuff falls under the heading of RFS, and it's one of the things that the ungodly keep trying to tell us is impossible. In all honesty, I'm not sure I've got what it takes to have a death experience deliberately induced. If it happens on its own, then oh well, but to do it on purpose? I don't know. There's a chance that you can't come back. Or maybe.....just maybe it would be so much better there that you wouldn't want to come back. Would anyone else be up for it, if for no other reason than to testify that there's nothing out there beyond physical death? The most chilling line I remember from a movie was about how you couldn't kill the guy because he was already dead. I tried to get the original and the best I could find was from The Abominable Dr. Phibes. The premise to Flatliners seems to me just off in a way that might work in weird horror movies, but not real science. Creepshow? Sleepy Hollow? Fright Night? The World Is Not Enough? (I'm sure Renard makes a typical ponderous statement Bond villains tend to do, in his case, something about already being dead...) |
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Post by Morgana on Jun 14, 2017 12:03:21 GMT
I did a thread about the first one on the old board once. Did not know there was a remake until just now. Someone started a thread on another of these boards, so I went to the wonderful world of YouTube and found this trailer. Looks good. As with the thread about the original "Flatliners" which I did on the old website, I have not marked this one OT because life-after-death stuff falls under the heading of RFS, and it's one of the things that the ungodly keep trying to tell us is impossible. In all honesty, I'm not sure I've got what it takes to have a death experience deliberately induced. If it happens on its own, then oh well, but to do it on purpose? I don't know. There's a chance that you can't come back. Or maybe.....just maybe it would be so much better there that you wouldn't want to come back. Would anyone else be up for it, if for no other reason than to testify that there's nothing out there beyond physical death? I loved the original. I don't know if the new one will be any good but I'm going to give it a try. |
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 14, 2017 12:25:09 GMT
tpfkar People have clearly had similar experiences with hallucinogens or just regular old dreams.
Would you believe me if I told you that I had communication with them? |
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Post by maya55555 on Jun 14, 2017 12:53:23 GMT
NAH.
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Post by maya55555 on Jun 14, 2017 12:54:10 GMT
NAH.
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Post by phludowin on Jun 14, 2017 15:59:09 GMT
You don't know that there is no afterlife. You simply would prefer that there not be one. Are you telling people what they think? Thanks, I'm not interested in the bridge you're trying to sell. I don't have a dog in the fight about afterlife, but the evidence against afterlife is overwhelming. If you have better evidence for the existence of afterlife, feel free to share it. But remember: YouTube videos are not evidence. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 14, 2017 16:29:43 GMT
He was not. Somewhere along the line I must have gotten you mixed up with someone intelligent. It now appears you are not. The evidence from where you stand can't be "overwhelming" because it's only from where you stand. There is just one false assumption I would especially like you to discard. Atheists make several. The worst one is that if there was a God it would make evidence of itself available to you if anyone. Apparently the evidence is unavailable to you. That by no means indicates it is not available at all. That is the pure science of the matter, and I'm really sick and tired of people like you giving science a bad name with your false assumptions. There are scientific proofs of the spirit, you just have missed out on them. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 14, 2017 16:39:09 GMT
You don't know that there is no afterlife. You simply would prefer that there not be one. Are you telling people what they think? Thanks, I'm not interested in the bridge you're trying to sell. I don't have a dog in the fight about afterlife, but the evidence against afterlife is overwhelming. If you have better evidence for the existence of afterlife, feel free to share it. But remember: YouTube videos are not evidence. No, you're trying to tell people what to think when you make arrogant statements like the one you made, and I'm not trying to sell you anything. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 14, 2017 16:45:08 GMT
tpfkar People have clearly had similar experiences with hallucinogens or just regular old dreams.
Would you believe me if I told you that I had communication with them?Clearly........but dead is dead, and an experience while in a state of death is more difficult to trivialize than a hallucination or a dream. Edgar Cayce put himself into a death state many times, and it shortened his life. |
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 14, 2017 17:23:57 GMT
tpfkar Muddily... but clinically dead ain't dead, it's a term all its own. And Cayce hallucinated prodigiously, in regards to his abilities at the very least.
Did a battle between greys and humans occur in the late 70s?
I wouldn't rule it out as impossible.
Percentage wise...how likely do you think it is?
Better than 90% |
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Post by Jonesy1 on Jun 14, 2017 17:27:40 GMT
The most chilling line I remember from a movie was about how you couldn't kill the guy because he was already dead. I tried to get the original and the best I could find was from The Abominable Dr. Phibes. The premise to Flatliners seems to me just off in a way that might work in weird horror movies, but not real science. I saw both of the Dr. Phibes moves, and they were creepy. Not as creepy as Superdude, but hey, what is? People have been clinically dead and later revived, and some of them said they never lost consciousness, and that they looked down on their own dead bodies. Some experienced heaven, or hell. I don't see why it would be different if a state of clinical death were to be artificially induced. Artificially induced clinical death is called deep hypothermic circulatory arrest, but whether or not someone undergoing DCHA has experienced a near death is another question. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 14, 2017 17:43:43 GMT
I saw both of the Dr. Phibes moves, and they were creepy. Not as creepy as Superdude, but hey, what is? People have been clinically dead and later revived, and some of them said they never lost consciousness, and that they looked down on their own dead bodies. Some experienced heaven, or hell. I don't see why it would be different if a state of clinical death were to be artificially induced. Artificially induced clinical death is called deep hypothermic circulatory arrest, but whether or not someone undergoing DCHA has experienced a near death is another question. Yes. However, the materialists on this board have insisted that the consciousness does not survive physical death (because they say so), and when people have been declared dead (no heart, no brain, no nothing) and come back to life it is because they were never dead......because it is impossible to die more than once (again, because they say so). Their statements have no more scientific validity than the testimony of people who have claimed after-death experiences. So, apparently it comes down to a matter of trust, and the "logical" crowd has given me no reason to trust them. That's just speaking for me, of course. You'll need to make your own decision as to who has more credibility. |
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Post by phludowin on Jun 14, 2017 18:18:08 GMT
Somewhere along the line I must have gotten you mixed up with someone intelligent. It now appears you are not. Since this comes from you, I take it as a compliment. The evidence available is available to everyone. Who said anything about God? I was talking about the afterlife, and the evidence against it. I'm guessing they are as convincing as the proofs for intelligent design, which you never provide. Probably for good reason. |
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 14, 2017 18:37:16 GMT
tpfkar "and when people have been declared dead (no heart, no brain, no nothing) and come back to life"Anything can be declared, but nobody's come back after "no brain, no nothing".
Strange, but I didn't see it that way. For the longest time I have been thinking that God the Father might be a collective, but I never thought of them as flesh and blood ETs. They would command incredible power, and not with science that we would understand, but with what would appear to be magic, or science we don't understand. |
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