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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 21:21:13 GMT
Who's with me. Overrated but Hall of Fame worthy. Everybody gets in. I'm all for Petey getting in the HOF. He deserves it. There's lots of scumbags in the Hall. But who would he be today? Tony Gwynn? Wait - that was 20 years ago. Ichiro Suziko who all of us Yanks complain about just being a gloried singles hitter? He's pretty much the Dr. J of yesterday - yeah Doc was jaw dropping for his day but sadly this is almost a half decade later. Where would Pete fit in today? I say he's a nice utility player off the bench when you need a spark. Thoughts? Discuss  |
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Post by Geddy on Jun 13, 2017 21:39:02 GMT
Who's with me. Overrated but Hall of Fame worthy. Everybody gets in. I'm all for Petey getting in the HOF. He deserves it. There's lots of scumbags in the Hall. But who would he be today? Tony Gwynn? Wait - that was 20 years ago. Ichiro Suziko who all of us Yanks complain about just being a gloried singles hitter? He's pretty much the Dr. J of yesterday - yeah Doc was jaw dropping for his day but sadly this is almost a half decade later. Where would Pete fit in today? I say he's a nice utility player off the bench when you need a spark. Thoughts? Discuss Overrated? Are you serious? The man has the most hits in MLB history and could play infield for any team today. |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jun 13, 2017 21:47:08 GMT
Pete Rose is one of the greatest players to ever play the game, among the top 25 non-pitchers of all time. He may have accumulated some stats towards the end, but I'm assuming you didn't see any of his pre-Phillies career. Today he would be looked at as being on par with Jeter and Boggs. IF more players today had his heart, there'd be a lot more better players.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 21:47:29 GMT
Who's with me. Overrated but Hall of Fame worthy. Everybody gets in. I'm all for Petey getting in the HOF. He deserves it. There's lots of scumbags in the Hall. But who would he be today? Tony Gwynn? Wait - that was 20 years ago. Ichiro Suziko who all of us Yanks complain about just being a gloried singles hitter? He's pretty much the Dr. J of yesterday - yeah Doc was jaw dropping for his day but sadly this is almost a half decade later. Where would Pete fit in today? I say he's a nice utility player off the bench when you need a spark. Thoughts? Discuss Overrated? Are you serious? The man has the most hits in MLB history and could play infield for any team today. don't you think he's kind of comparable to Ichichiro but just had a bit more 'spark' to his personality? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 21:50:11 GMT
Pete Rose is one of the greatest players to ever play the game, among the top 25 non-pitchers of all time. He may have accumulated some stats towards the end, but I'm assuming you didn't see any of his pre-Phillies career. Today he would be looked at as being on par with Jeter and Boggs. IF more players today had his heart, there'd be a lot more better players. wade boggs > pete rose tougher era where the competition was more prevalent -and boggsy was playing the hot corner where 'power' is expected and still survived for years with that dominant power ala Chipper and is still regarded as an icon today - i give the edge to boggs......... |
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 13, 2017 21:52:43 GMT
Only jackasses think of Ichiro as a glorified singles hitter. The guy was one of the best all-around players I've seen play in person. He could do it all. He didn't hit a lot of home runs because he chose not to, he could do more damage by working long at-bats, getting on base and wreaking havoc, and creating opportunities for his teammates.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 21:54:17 GMT
Only jackasses think of Ichiro as a glorified singles hitter. The guy was one of the best all-around players I've seen play in person. He could do it all. He didn't hit a lot of home runs because he chose not to, he could do more damage by working long at-bats, getting on base and wreaking havoc, and creating opportunities for his teammates. lol. he could do more damage by not hitting home runs. thats a thing of beauty right there  |
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Post by Geddy on Jun 13, 2017 21:54:37 GMT
Overrated? Are you serious? The man has the most hits in MLB history and could play infield for any team today. don't you think he's kind of comparable to Ichichiro but just had a bit more 'spark' to his personality? Ichiro was probably the best hitter of the last 15 years or so; I'm thinking you only dig power hitters which is okay, but not really fair. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 13, 2017 21:55:26 GMT
I wouldn't call him a "utility player". He didn't bounce from position to position during the course of a single season.
And he isn't missing from the HOF because he was a singles hitter. There are other circumstances.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 13, 2017 21:55:49 GMT
Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.
- Major League Rule 21
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jun 13, 2017 21:58:07 GMT
FYI Rose DID play 635 games at 3B, roughly 18% of his regular season total.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 21:58:57 GMT
don't you think he's kind of comparable to Ichichiro but just had a bit more 'spark' to his personality? Ichiro was probably the best hitter of the last 15 years or so; I'm thinking you only dig power hitters which is okay, but not really fair. yeah - maybe i'm being a little unfair. lopsided game when you're down 3-0 in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the opposing pitcher is pitching a gem. do i want a power hitter up there who can end things with one swing of the bat - or a 'slap hitter' and maybe a couple of runs will get knocked in to extend the game. debatable i guess which is always fun. ichiro served his purpose. i'll take the power hitter. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 22:00:38 GMT
I wouldn't call him a "utility player". He didn't bounce from position to position during the course of a single season. And he isn't missing from the HOF because he was a singles hitter. There are other circumstances. like what  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 22:02:24 GMT
FYI Rose DID play 635 games at 3B, roughly 18% of his regular season total. did he show any power working the hot stove though like Schmidty? |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 13, 2017 22:03:14 GMT
I wouldn't call him a "utility player". He didn't bounce from position to position during the course of a single season. And he isn't missing from the HOF because he was a singles hitter. There are other circumstances. like what You really don't know why Rose isn't in the Hall of Fame? |
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Post by Geddy on Jun 13, 2017 22:03:54 GMT
Ichiro was probably the best hitter of the last 15 years or so; I'm thinking you only dig power hitters which is okay, but not really fair. yeah - maybe i'm being a little unfair. lopsided game when you're down 3-0 in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the opposing pitcher is pitching a gem. do i want a power hitter up there who can end things with one swing of the bat - or a 'slap hitter' and maybe a couple of runs will get knocked in to extend the game. debatable i guess which is always fun. ichiro served his purpose. i'll take the power hitter. Power hitter can only tie up the game if those slap hitters as you call them get on base ahead of him. Ya dig? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 22:06:06 GMT
yeah - maybe i'm being a little unfair. lopsided game when you're down 3-0 in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the opposing pitcher is pitching a gem. do i want a power hitter up there who can end things with one swing of the bat - or a 'slap hitter' and maybe a couple of runs will get knocked in to extend the game. debatable i guess which is always fun. ichiro served his purpose. i'll take the power hitter. Power hitter can only tie up the game if those slap hitters as you call them get on base ahead of him. Ya dig? if the bags are loaded - it takes one swing of the bat baby. but maybe you want that 'slap hitter' in there........ |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jun 13, 2017 22:08:12 GMT
No he didn't show any power while working the hot corner like Schmidt, because he wasn't a power hitter. I know you're just trolling here so I'm not going to respond to this thread anymore, but calling Rose a utility player proves you know less about baseball than I thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 22:11:01 GMT
Overrated? Are you serious? The man has the most hits in MLB history and could play infield for any team today. Don't feed the troll. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 22:11:10 GMT
like what You really don't know why Rose isn't in the Hall of Fame? well - i think it comes down to gambling and politics - i.e. heard stories he bet on baseball when he was managing even though he said he never bet against his team - i.e. he was in position to change an outcome since he was in charge. i think he should get in. but today - he's a 'utility' and 'slap hitter' and 'energy guy' off the bench. we need to recognize our heroes of past - like Dr. J - who is basically Robert Covington today and could dunk - but we all love to relish in the tales of our heros past and make them seem bigger than real life ala jack and the beanstalk. we're in an era where the superior athlete is prevalent - doesn't mean we shouldn't recognize these players from years past.. |
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