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Post by Jedan Archer on Jun 21, 2017 13:41:27 GMT
They wanted it to be comical, kasden wanted to take a more ridged approach, I do not want a comical Han solo movie, this is a good decision If that's true than why go with them as the directors? Comedy is there Schick, shouldn't surprise you that they'll go with comedy. This is essentially true, and casting them was a bad call IMO - from reports the primal stone of contention was first with Kasdan & Son who hated that the directors disregarded the script dialog and inserted a lot of quips and improvisational humor; Kennedy and others backed Kasdan. But Solo in this phase must be a sarcastic, cynical and selfish smuggler-lowlife with balls. He is not the quipping self-ironic charmer many make him out to be. If they fired them to stop this becoming Guardians of the GunRacoon 3, I truly thank the makers.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 21, 2017 13:59:16 GMT
If that's true than why go with them as the directors? Comedy is there Schick, shouldn't surprise you that they'll go with comedy. This is essentially true, and casting them was a bad call IMO - from reports the primal stone of contention was first with Kasdan & Son who hated that the directors disregarded the script dialog and inserted a lot of quips and improvisational humor; Kennedy and others backed Kasdan. But Solo in this phase must be a sarcastic, cynical and selfish smuggler-lowlife with balls. He is not the quipping self-ironic charmer many make him out to be. If they fired them to stop this becoming Guardians of the GunRacoon 3, I truly thank the makers. I personally think they made a bad call about the director choice. If the wanted a serious Han Solo film, don't get the guys who made Lego Movie and 21 jump Street.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 21, 2017 14:26:38 GMT
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 21, 2017 14:38:13 GMT
That begs the question though, what creative differences could there possibly have been to the point where they would leave the film when they were already almost done with filming. Wouldn't these kinds of creative differences have taken place before filming began? Yup. It's a new one on me. Of all the new Star Wars directors, these two were the only ones I ever had any real hope in based on their prior work. Wasn't a big fan of the Han Solo film anyway. It's strange. I like most of the Marvel movies under Disney, but they're fucking up with Star Wars. ...these two were the only ones I ever had any real hope in based on their prior work.
Their prior work is 21 Jump Street and the LEGO movie. What about that made you think they were ready to direct Star Wars?! I don't see the correlation. If anything I think it would be the reverse.
...they're (Disney) fucking up with Star Wars.
Based on the two hugely successful movies they've released so far? Which Disney Star Wars movies did you watch that were fucked up? The two I saw were good movies which have become some of the most money making movies of all time. If that's fucked up I'll take it!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 21, 2017 14:50:12 GMT
Ron Howard? What a joke. Maybe 20 years from now we'll get a "Miller and Lord Cut" like the "Richard Donner Cut" of Superman II. Ron Howard is a joke?! Ron Howard has proven himself over the course of his career to be one of our finest directors. He's had a few flops recently, but so has everyone. We should be so lucky as to get Howard directing a Star Wars movie. And if we do get a Miller and Lord cut I'd bet it wouldn't be any better.
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Post by audiosane on Jun 21, 2017 15:39:27 GMT
Yup. It's a new one on me. Of all the new Star Wars directors, these two were the only ones I ever had any real hope in based on their prior work. Wasn't a big fan of the Han Solo film anyway. It's strange. I like most of the Marvel movies under Disney, but they're fucking up with Star Wars.
I wouldn't have picked them to direct a Star Wars movie. However, of all the directors we've seen so far, their LEGO movie was the only one I really enjoyed. I was hopeful with Abrams, but I didn't like either of his Star Trek films. Never seen Looper, but I'm not crazy about what I've seen so far from Rian's TLJ. I foresaw Gareth Edward's Rogue One being boring because I had seen Godzilla. I had my fingers crossed that these two guys could successfully cross over and do a Star Wars film that was fun, lighthearted and had a good amount of action. I don't care how much money these films make. I care how good they are. The Original Trilogy isn't beloved because they made a shitload of money. TFA might've been entertaining, nostalgic and fast paced, but it was also a safe, poorly-written, unoriginal rehash of better films that basically undid all the victories from ROTJ. I think Rogue One is a better film, but its characters are boring as fuck. I watched it a few weeks ago. I had to stop it twice because I was so bored. We also don't know much about them. When they died, I didn't really care because they weren't that interesting. Rogue One needed fewer, better fleshed out characters that had personality, humor and heart. So, yeah... in my book, Disney is fucking up Star Wars. I went from being a diehard Star Wars fan who was hopeful that Disney would make good films to a casual one who goes in with low expectations.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 21, 2017 16:40:16 GMT
Disney should get Alfonso Cuarón for a Star Wars film
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 17:37:58 GMT
It's like I said before, Disney doesn't know how to do sci-fi. Just look at their track record. The Black Hole in 1979: mixed box office results and even more mixed critic reviews. Mars Needs Moms in 2011. A colossal flop that lost $110 million.
Kathleen Kennedy didn't waste any time adopting the Disney psychology and agenda and becoming their head sycophant over SW/LucasFilm. Star Wars being part sci-fi/part space fantasy, Kennedy is showing they have the same approach.
They got lucky with TFA. People largely forgave the a badly written script that was rushed, piecemealed, and heavily recycled and rehashed ANH. That's mostly because of pacing, nostalgia, and Disney's first live-action big-screen warrior princess.
But the handling of this Han Solo movie proves that they haven't learned anything. Following the typical Disney agenda, they tried to marry Disney style family comedy to Kasdan's script by hiring 2 directors who would probably be ideal for making a SW version of Herbie the Lovebug. (Han and Chewbacca learn that the Millennium Falcon is alive! And it has a feisty, comical personality all of it's own!)
Disney knew exactly what they were doing with this move. And now that things are once again turning out piecemeal and "forced" (pun intended), they're changing some kind of filmmaking leadership for the third time in 3 movies.
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Post by agentblue on Jun 21, 2017 20:31:20 GMT
That sucks that they were dropped. I was looking forward to what they could bring to Star Wars, I am excited to see what new director they hire tho.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 21, 2017 21:59:52 GMT
Ron Howard? What a joke. Maybe 20 years from now we'll get a "Miller and Lord Cut" like the "Richard Donner Cut" of Superman II. Ron Howard is a joke?! Ron Howard has proven himself over the course of his career to be one of our finest directors. He's had a few flops recently, but so has everyone. We should be so lucky as to get Howard directing a Star Wars movie. And if we do get a Miller and Lord cut I'd bet it wouldn't be any better.
Howard is a fine director, but not for a Star Wars movie. He isn't that type of director. Just like how Tarantino, Oliver Stone, the Coen Brothers, and Scorsese are all great directors, but wouldn't fit the bill for a Star Wars movie.
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Post by chatterer on Jun 22, 2017 6:23:03 GMT
Do people really expect this to be on the scale of TFA and RO?
It's a Han Solo film these guys are competent even with their current resume. I'm glad they took a stand even if it got them fired. A Han Solo movie was never a good idea to begin with.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jun 22, 2017 14:40:24 GMT
Just had an alert pop up on my phone from Hollywood Reporter that Ron Howard will finish it up. link
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 22, 2017 16:58:21 GMT
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Post by Jerk on Jun 22, 2017 17:52:37 GMT
Is there a more bland director than Ron Howard? Many.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jun 22, 2017 21:06:40 GMT
Here we go with more-than-the-usual reshoots again...!
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 22, 2017 23:46:20 GMT
I wonder if he'll be a narrator for the film. Love his narration in Arrested Development!
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Post by shinnickneth on Jun 23, 2017 1:01:06 GMT
I wonder if he'll be a narrator for the film. Love his narration in Arrested Development! Maybe he'll reprise his Opie Griffith role?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 23, 2017 13:39:11 GMT
I wonder if he'll be a narrator for the film. Love his narration in Arrested Development! Maybe he'll reprise his Opie Griffith role? Yeah, lets hope they throw in the Andy Griffith Show opening whistle tune. LOL
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 26, 2017 19:52:55 GMT
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