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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 24, 2017 16:39:59 GMT
How exactly are we supposed to buy that James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender are going to suddenly morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the span of about 10 years? Obviously, the continuity of the X-Men films has always been extremely wonky but even then, that just seems like it'd be really difficult to accept. How does mutant aging work in the X-Men films?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 24, 2017 17:45:35 GMT
How exactly are we supposed to buy that James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender are going to suddenly morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the span of about 10 years? Obviously, the continuity of the X-Men films has always been extremely wonky but even then, that just seems like it'd be really difficult to accept. How does mutant aging work in the X-Men films? It's a different timeline. Same reason Kirk and Spock ( and the Enterprise herself ) look different in the Nu Trek films!
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jun 24, 2017 18:52:56 GMT
How exactly are we supposed to buy that James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender are going to suddenly morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the span of about 10 years? Obviously, the continuity of the X-Men films has always been extremely wonky but even then, that just seems like it'd be really difficult to accept. How does mutant aging work in the X-Men films? Make-up perhaps. They did with Wolverine in Logan.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 5:15:20 GMT
The decade time jumps are just a stupid problem in general.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 25, 2017 10:36:50 GMT
How exactly are we supposed to buy that James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender are going to suddenly morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the span of about 10 years? Obviously, the continuity of the X-Men films has always been extremely wonky but even then, that just seems like it'd be really difficult to accept. How does mutant aging work in the X-Men films? Make-up perhaps. They did with Wolverine in Logan. They made no effort to make Fassbender and McAvoy look older in DOFP or Apocalypse. They won't here either.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jun 25, 2017 12:27:40 GMT
Make-up perhaps. They did with Wolverine in Logan. They made no effort to make Fassbender and McAvoy look older in DOFP or Apocalypse. They won't here either. Different director.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 25, 2017 16:03:24 GMT
Didn't the original X-MEN film (2000) take place in the near future? For all we know that was 2017.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 26, 2017 17:28:38 GMT
It's only a problem if you don't realize that the X-Men in the comics haven't aged since the 60's either. It's not a real big deal.
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Post by lukelovesfilm34 on Jul 2, 2017 21:39:26 GMT
Um, these are MOVIES. Much like actors vs stunt doubles, you have to give movies SOME leeway and understanding. You're taking these semantics far too seriously. BUT that being said, they were terrific choices for the younger McKellan and Stewart. Chris Pine looks NOTHING like the young William Shatner.
By the way, the first X-Men takes place in "the not so distant future." No specific date.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jul 18, 2017 20:57:11 GMT
i have fanspackled that the X-Gene comes with easy aging.
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Post by transfuged on Jul 18, 2017 21:03:25 GMT
Hello, Why should they look alike in movies? Depending on the artist, they don't look alike in the comics, to cry out loud. Till later. T
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 19, 2017 21:10:45 GMT
Hello, Why should they look alike in movies? Depending on the artist, they don't look alike in the comics, to cry out loud. Till later. T Because they're playing characters that are in their 60s by the movie timeline and they make NO effort to age the actors.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 19, 2017 21:17:05 GMT
It's only a problem if you make it one.
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Post by transfuged on Jul 20, 2017 20:41:02 GMT
Hello again, Hum. Thanks for the specks. I did only knew about Ian mc kellen and Patrick Stewart. Looked up the two others. Well, stricktly speaking... Age never seems to be relevant in male specimen, especially considering they are always equipped with junior female partners (who said power complex/ issue ?). They could probably found a way. (I still wait for an explanation about how Angel could have fly quicker than the Blackbird... And, mind you, I bought the dvd two years ago on the purpose of trying to find out, and never had the opportunity to watch it ... ) Till later, T
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 21, 2017 3:15:30 GMT
It's only a problem if you don't realize that the X-Men in the comics haven't aged since the 60's either. It's not a real big deal. Sliding time scale. The sliding time scale means that the time that they became X-men has moved up as real time passes. Magneto is probably one of the only characters without a healing factor that was given a reason for still being relatively young (was de-aged then aged again to a much younger age). The X-men have aged quite a bit since their debut. They were in their mid to late teens and is now mid to late 20s/early 30s (not counting older characters like Wolverine and Banshee). Same as with Peter Parker only being Spider-man for about 5-7 years.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jul 21, 2017 13:18:28 GMT
Exactly. I see no reason why the movies can't operate on the same sliding time scale.
Just look at the Simpsons. Homer was a teen during the moon landing and during the height of Nirvana.
It's not a big deal.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 22, 2017 16:01:45 GMT
Exactly. I see no reason why the movies can't operate on the same sliding time scale. Just look at the Simpsons. Homer was a teen during the moon landing and during the height of Nirvana. It's not a big deal. Because they are movies that take place in a certain time. You don't need a sliding time scale if you don't announce when the movies take place. Comics can get away with it because a single story arc can take place in a few days time, but last 18 issues. That's a year and a half in our time, but a few days in the characters. That's what the sliding time scale does. If they do a story in the comics that takes place 10 years later, it will show in the characters' appearance. They will look older. They really don't have to do the next movie in the 90s. The thing that gets me is that they are trying to catch up to now so bad (while keeping the same actors) that they are making the X-men universe so boring. You trying to tell me that nothing significant happens between 1973 and 1983? Nothing happens between 1983 and 199(#)? Couldn't we get a smaller follow up/build up movie between Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. Kinda like Apocalypse= X1, movie=X2, Dark Phoenix= X3. Not saying go bigger with that middle movie, but show that she had a Phoenix flare up that destroyed something and would be the cause of the Shi'ar wanting to destroy her. Give them a villain significantly smaller than Apocalypse, but still challenging, and make it more about the X-men. And no Magneto! Hell, I'd bring in Lilandra as a replacement for Moira that builds up to Dark Phoenix. Crap... In seconds I just thought of a good Phoenix movie. That's because Homer is actually God or a celestial being.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jul 24, 2017 13:01:51 GMT
The comics have also taken place in certain times. Tony Stark was once a prisoner of war during Vietnam. Yet even before a reboot, the timeline slid with him and he never aged 30, 20, or even 10 years.
Jubilee was a teenager for almost 20 years. Dick Grayson was Robin for decades. And all of them had stories that took place in certain specific times. Heck, who knows how many christmases they celebrated without aging a day.
But it doesn't bother me in the comics, and it doesn't bother me in the movies. It's the same principle.
I don't mind the big leaps in time. Can't have a world ending crisis every year and a half. It's the one thing I don't really like about the MCU. Almost every movie is the end of the world or the end of the galaxy or the end of reality.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 17, 2017 19:40:35 GMT
The comics have also taken place in certain times. Tony Stark was once a prisoner of war during Vietnam. Yet even before a reboot, the timeline slid with him and he never aged 30, 20, or even 10 years. Jubilee was a teenager for almost 20 years. Dick Grayson was Robin for decades. And all of them had stories that took place in certain specific times. Heck, who knows how many christmases they celebrated without aging a day. But it doesn't bother me in the comics, and it doesn't bother me in the movies. It's the same principle. I don't mind the big leaps in time. Can't have a world ending crisis every year and a half. It's the one thing I don't really like about the MCU. Almost every movie is the end of the world or the end of the galaxy or the end of reality. Yeah, but they change the conflict to make it more modern. Comics have been doing the same thing as the 1st Iron Man and took it away from being Vietnam. That's the point of the sliding timescale. Jubilee is in her late teens now. Like I said before, to us it has been 40 years, but to the character it might have been 2-3. Golden Age Dick Grayson actually became an adult and went to college. I think he went into politics. And DC is a bad example of the sliding timescale because they keep rebooting the universe. It's not the same principle because there are hundreds and hundreds of comics. There are only about 10 movies. And they specifically say what the time is in that movie. It works on the real world's time. Why do you think people started saying that mutants have a low healing factor to keep them younger. It's hiding your head in the sand because they know it doesn't make sense.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 17, 2017 20:02:44 GMT
As late as the 90s, Ironman been a prisoner during the Vietnam War yet had barely aged. And he was no mutant to have low healing factor.
Nah. It's me realizing it's not a big deal. Like I said, the comics have done the same. So have cartoons. And every medium ever.
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