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Post by clusium on Jul 22, 2017 2:42:59 GMT
The percentage of sexual offenders in the priesthood is no higher or no lower than in the general population as a whole. Of course ZERO OFFENDERS would be far better. Goes without saying!! The point is, there is no link between vows of celibacy pedophilia I think your opinion is biased, and unsupported by facts. Is Celibacy Linked to Pedophilia?There are links that would contradict your own sources too, Bryce. It's Not About Celibacy
Bryce, there are now former child stars coming out of the woodwork, claiming that pedophilia & sexual abuse is quite rampant in Hollywood. I'm pretty sure Hollywood is not known for being chaste.
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Post by thefleetsin on Jul 22, 2017 3:23:49 GMT
probably for the very same reasons so much senatorial bathroom sex goes on here in the congress of the united states. everyone wants a piece of something they can't bring home to their wives and families.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 22, 2017 15:29:25 GMT
There are links that would contradict your own sources too, Bryce. It's Not About Celibacy
Bryce, there are now former child stars coming out of the woodwork, claiming that pedophilia & sexual abuse is quite rampant in Hollywood. I'm pretty sure Hollywood is not known for being chaste. I don't think I understand your point? What does this have to do with pedophilia in the Catholic Church?
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Post by clusium on Jul 22, 2017 15:33:44 GMT
There are links that would contradict your own sources too, Bryce. It's Not About Celibacy
Bryce, there are now former child stars coming out of the woodwork, claiming that pedophilia & sexual abuse is quite rampant in Hollywood. I'm pretty sure Hollywood is not known for being chaste. I don't think I understand your point? What does this have to do with pedophilia in the Catholic Church? The point is, Hollywood movie/TV producers are among the richest people in the entire world, & can get any lover them so wish. So, why would they even need to prey on vulnerable children? Leftists try to blame vows of celibacy and/or chastity for sexual abuse in the Church, but, if that were the case, why are so many people in Hollywood committing these horrible crimes??? Rape and/or sexual abuse is all about power. Not about sex.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 22, 2017 15:44:54 GMT
I don't think I understand your point? What does this have to do with pedophilia in the Catholic Church? The point is, Hollywood movie/TV producers are among the richest people in the entire world, & can get any lover them so wish. So, why would they even need to prey on vulnerable children? Leftists try to blame vows of celibacy and/or chastity for sexual abuse in the Church, but, if that were the case, why are so many people in Hollywood committing these horrible crimes??? Rape and/or sexual abuse is all about power. Not about sex. I think you're incapable of looking at this logically because your faith in the Catholic Church has blinded you to reason. The fact is you are misrepresenting the argument (making a straw man argument in the process). The argument is not that ALL pedophiles are pedophiles because of celibacy restrictions. There may be many causes of pedophilia that we do not understand. The argument is that celibacy may be a contributing or aggravating factor for many pedophiles. So while not all pedophiles became pedophiles due to celibacy, some may have. In what profession or lifestyle is celibacy an established standard OTHER than the priesthood?
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Post by clusium on Jul 22, 2017 15:51:00 GMT
The point is, Hollywood movie/TV producers are among the richest people in the entire world, & can get any lover them so wish. So, why would they even need to prey on vulnerable children? Leftists try to blame vows of celibacy and/or chastity for sexual abuse in the Church, but, if that were the case, why are so many people in Hollywood committing these horrible crimes??? Rape and/or sexual abuse is all about power. Not about sex. I think you're incapable of looking at this logically because your faith in the Catholic Church has blinded you to reason. The fact is you are misrepresenting the argument (making a straw man argument in the process). The argument is not that ALL pedophiles are pedophiles because of celibacy restrictions. There may be many causes of pedophilia that we do not understand. The argument is that celibacy may be a contributing or aggravating factor for many pedophiles. So while not all pedophiles became pedophiles due to celibacy, some may have. In what profession or lifestyle is celibacy an established standard OTHER than the priesthood? Most religions do not have mandatory celibacy or chastity for their clergy (I think Buddhism may be the only one). Yet, there have been clergy from other religions that have been accused and/or convicted of rape and/or sexual abuse as well. How come marriage didn't prevent them from committing sexual crimes?
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Post by kls on Jul 22, 2017 15:52:16 GMT
If someone was worried about celibacy restrictions preying on kids isn't some way around keeping to them.
If a priest wasn't going to keep to them he could have an affair with a grown woman (or man if that was more his inclination)
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 22, 2017 16:03:46 GMT
I think you're incapable of looking at this logically because your faith in the Catholic Church has blinded you to reason. The fact is you are misrepresenting the argument (making a straw man argument in the process). The argument is not that ALL pedophiles are pedophiles because of celibacy restrictions. There may be many causes of pedophilia that we do not understand. The argument is that celibacy may be a contributing or aggravating factor for many pedophiles. So while not all pedophiles became pedophiles due to celibacy, some may have. In what profession or lifestyle is celibacy an established standard OTHER than the priesthood? Most religions do not have mandatory celibacy or chastity for their clergy (I think Buddhism may be the only one). Yet, there have been clergy from other religions that have been accused and/or convicted of rape and/or sexual abuse as well. How come marriage didn't prevent them from committing sexual crimes? Oh my god...did you seriously not just read my last post? I already answered this. Nobody is claiming that marriage prevents sexual crimes! That is a straw man argument. And by the way, conflating the terms "pedophilia" to "sexual crimes" is moving the goal posts. Not all sexual crimes are related to pedophilia (a specific type of sexual interest).
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Post by thorshairspray on Jul 22, 2017 16:04:38 GMT
If someone was worried about celibacy restrictions preying on kids isn't some way around keeping to them.
If a priest wasn't going to keep to them he could have an affair with a grown woman (or man if that was more his inclination) Not being funny or anything, but not being able to have sex with a grown woman isn't going to make me get hard over an 8 year old boy. This is probably more due to predatory pedophiles entering jobs and groups that give them access to kids.
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Post by kls on Jul 22, 2017 16:05:28 GMT
If someone was worried about celibacy restrictions preying on kids isn't some way around keeping to them.
If a priest wasn't going to keep to them he could have an affair with a grown woman (or man if that was more his inclination) Not being funny or anything, but not being able to have sex with a grown woman isn't going to make me get hard over an 8 year old boy. This is probably more due to predatory pedophiles entering jobs and groups that give them access to kids. True.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 23, 2017 5:19:31 GMT
They are incapable of reproduction. Two homosexuals sodomizing each other will never conceive another homosexual, so they must recruit new members. There is no other way for them to perpetuate their sickness.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jul 23, 2017 6:17:16 GMT
Most religions do not have mandatory celibacy or chastity for their clergy (I think Buddhism may be the only one). Yet, there have been clergy from other religions that have been accused and/or convicted of rape and/or sexual abuse as well. How come marriage didn't prevent them from committing sexual crimes? Oh my god...did you seriously not just read my last post? I already answered this. Nobody is claiming that marriage prevents sexual crimes! That is a straw man argument. And by the way, conflating the terms "pedophilia" to "sexual crimes" is moving the goal posts. Not all sexual crimes are related to pedophilia (a specific type of sexual interest). Good luck finding a thread where she has understood anything beyond the simplest and most trivial topics.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jul 23, 2017 6:18:48 GMT
They are incapable of reproduction. Two homosexuals sodomizing each other will never conceive another homosexual, so they must recruit new members. There is no other way for them to perpetuate their sickness. Who the hell told you that homosexuals have a goal of making more homosexuals?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jul 23, 2017 7:29:25 GMT
They are incapable of reproduction. Two homosexuals sodomizing each other will never conceive another homosexual, so they must recruit new members. There is no other way for them to perpetuate their sickness. Who the hell told you that homosexuals have a goal of making more homosexuals? The people he loved and trusted when he was a child, who mindfucked him.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 23, 2017 12:55:43 GMT
They are incapable of reproduction. Two homosexuals sodomizing each other will never conceive another homosexual, so they must recruit new members. There is no other way for them to perpetuate their sickness. Homosexual reproduce all the time. Evidently you are ignorant of the fact that their are many families with gay parents. In any event, you don't seem to have a problem with heterosexuals sodomizing each other; perhaps that's not why people engage in that act. And perhaps some homosexuals never engage in that act at all. Why you assume that every homosexual couple engages in sodomy must stem from what you were taught in "church school" (who as we know has intimate knowledge of homosexual practices). The most astonishing component of your post is your idea that homosexuals must recruit new members. For what purpose may I ask? Why should a homosexual person want to create more homosexuals? Even IF it was a sickness (which we know scientifically it is not, but since you hate science we'll go ahead and assume something stupid for the sake of argument), why would they want to perpetuate it according to your "logic", if we can call it that?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 24, 2017 1:37:40 GMT
They are incapable of reproduction. Two homosexuals sodomizing each other will never conceive another homosexual, so they must recruit new members. There is no other way for them to perpetuate their sickness. Heterosexuals sodomizing each other will never conceive another heterosexual, so they must recruit new members. There is no other way for them to perpetuate their sickness. Aw man, that was like......like really DEEP, man.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jul 24, 2017 7:56:42 GMT
Aw man, that was like......like really DEEP, man. Aw man, that goes deeper than the big d!ck you crave to be sodomized with. People DO NOT have sex just for procreation. If you're Erjen, you don't have sex at all.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Jul 24, 2017 8:55:05 GMT
Congratulations to Eva and Rabbit. By talking about paedophilia with Sadorah you've now encouraged Mutha to start his own pedophile thread. Are we to have a repeat of last years multiple pedophile threads here when these sad two f@ckers deploy socks orcall for reinforcements. Disgusting. That never happened. I am sorry this thread triggered you, are you going to get into a huff and delete your account again like a child? Would that turn you on?
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 24, 2017 10:39:01 GMT
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Post by Superdude6091 on Jul 24, 2017 10:45:49 GMT
I wasn't getting into a debate with him I exposed his previous posts that painted him as a pedophile. Notice his contributions to that thread ended after I did so. I couldn't care less what you do or don't admire Rabbit. There are not two sides to every story,pedophilias are not to be debated with only beaten and killed,their supporters who use pseudo intellectual bullshit to support them ridiculed and spat upon.
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