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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 6, 2017 21:21:25 GMT
Wonder Woman and Gal Gadot are the most amazing part of the DCEU so far. I hope WB doesn't think that means they should put her into a bunch of other character's films like they did with RDJ and Iron Man.
Like I understand that Civil War is the kind of story that needed everybody, and so is Flashpoint, but The Flash hasn't had his time to shine on his own in the DCEU yet.
Putting Wonder Woman in the first Flash solo movie is like putting Iron Man in the first MCU Spider-Man movie. I don't want the focus on the Flash taken away or overshadowed.
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Post by primeone on Aug 6, 2017 22:09:57 GMT
Wonder Woman and Gal Gadot are the most amazing part of the DCEU so far. I hope WB doesn't think that means they should put her into a bunch of other character's films like they did with RDJ and Iron Man. Like I understand that Civil War is the kind of story that needed everybody, and so is Flashpoint, but The Flash hasn't had his time to shine on his own in the DCEU yet. Putting Wonder Woman in the first Flash solo movie is like putting Iron Man in the first MCU Spider-Man movie. I don't want the focus on the Flash taken away or overshadowed. I don’t think that’s what they’re going for but people are only giving that comparison because she was announced right after the $400m domestic reach. Marketing. The Flashpoint movie would obviously feature her so this isn’t new to anyone who read the comic or saw the animated movie. Wait until the end of this year to early next year, I bet they will announce Aquaman in the film as well after see his performance in JL.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 7, 2017 0:09:20 GMT
Wonder Woman and Gal Gadot are the most amazing part of the DCEU so far. I hope WB doesn't think that means they should put her into a bunch of other character's films like they did with RDJ and Iron Man. Wonder Woman isn't in the Aquaman movie. Like I understand that Civil War is the kind of story that needed everybody, and so is Flashpoint, but The Flash hasn't had his time to shine on his own in the DCEU yet. Putting Wonder Woman in the first Flash solo movie is like putting Iron Man in the first MCU Spider-Man movie. I don't want the focus on the Flash taken away or overshadowed. Not the same thing. The Flashpoint movie will obviously be based on the comic-book story, which not only had Wonder Woman but also the rest of the Justice League in it. Even the animated Justice League: Flashpoint movie had Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League in it. So it's natural for the Flashpoint movie to have Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League in it. SMH is different. I don't recall in the comics where Tony Stark was Peter Parker's mentor in high school or where Peter Parker used AI suits given him by Iron Man when Peter was in high school. So Iron man was just shoehorned into SMH to try to promote it. And SMH still flopped. After a big opening weekend when all the MCU fans flocked to see it, SMH had a massive 62% drop on its 2nd weekend and another 50% drop on its 3rd weekend when word-of-mouth quickly spread that SMH is just an over-rated and over-hyped high school comedy movie that just isn't very good.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 7, 2017 0:41:20 GMT
Wonder Woman and Gal Gadot are the most amazing part of the DCEU so far. I hope WB doesn't think that means they should put her into a bunch of other character's films like they did with RDJ and Iron Man. Wonder Woman isn't in the Aquaman movie. Like I understand that Civil War is the kind of story that needed everybody, and so is Flashpoint, but The Flash hasn't had his time to shine on his own in the DCEU yet. Putting Wonder Woman in the first Flash solo movie is like putting Iron Man in the first MCU Spider-Man movie. I don't want the focus on the Flash taken away or overshadowed. Not the same thing. The Flashpoint movie will obviously be based on the comic-book story, which not only had Wonder Woman but also the rest of the Justice League in it. Even the animated Justice League: Flashpoint movie had Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League in it. So it's natural for the Flashpoint movie to have Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League in it. SMH is different. I don't recall in the comics where Tony Stark was Peter Parker's mentor in high school or where Peter Parker used AI suits given him by Iron Man when Peter was in high school. So Iron man was just shoehorned into SMH to try to promote it. And SMH still flopped. After a big opening weekend when all the MCU fans flocked to see it, SMH had a massive 62% drop on its 2nd weekend and another 50% drop on its 3rd weekend when word-of-mouth quickly spread that SMH is just an over-rated and over-hyped high school comedy movie that just isn't very good. Still cranky about the MCU's success??
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 7, 2017 2:39:07 GMT
Even if they do, better her than Batman.
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Post by brownstones on Aug 7, 2017 3:26:33 GMT
i doubt, it's flashpoint.....WW vs AQ
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 3:36:36 GMT
Honestly, its Batman we should be fearing they'll put in everything. I would welcome seeing much more of this Wonder Woman.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 7, 2017 4:11:32 GMT
Good call. What I did hope for DCEU early on was less crossovers and cameo appearances just because reasons. I didn't care for it in Antman or Iron Man 2. It's appearing more likely that Phase One will be turned into a massive overhaul of the franchise instead though. I don't work at WB so I have to see how it pans out (insert pun below).
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 7, 2017 12:13:10 GMT
Good call. What I did hope for DCEU early on was less crossovers and cameo appearances just because reasons. I didn't care for it in Antman or Iron Man 2. It's appearing more likely that Phase One will be turned into a massive overhaul of the franchise instead though. I don't work at WB so I have to see how it pans out (insert pun below). Why not? The Marvel comics has it happen all the time.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 7, 2017 17:14:38 GMT
Wonder Woman and Gal Gadot are the most amazing part of the DCEU so far. I hope WB doesn't think that means they should put her into a bunch of other character's films like they did with RDJ and Iron Man. Wonder Woman isn't in the Aquaman movie. Like I understand that Civil War is the kind of story that needed everybody, and so is Flashpoint, but The Flash hasn't had his time to shine on his own in the DCEU yet. Putting Wonder Woman in the first Flash solo movie is like putting Iron Man in the first MCU Spider-Man movie. I don't want the focus on the Flash taken away or overshadowed. Not the same thing. The Flashpoint movie will obviously be based on the comic-book story, which not only had Wonder Woman but also the rest of the Justice League in it. Even the animated Justice League: Flashpoint movie had Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League in it. So it's natural for the Flashpoint movie to have Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League in it. SMH is different. I don't recall in the comics where Tony Stark was Peter Parker's mentor in high school or where Peter Parker used AI suits given him by Iron Man when Peter was in high school. So Iron man was just shoehorned into SMH to try to promote it. And SMH still flopped. After a big opening weekend when all the MCU fans flocked to see it, SMH had a massive 62% drop on its 2nd weekend and another 50% drop on its 3rd weekend when word-of-mouth quickly spread that SMH is just an over-rated and over-hyped high school comedy movie that just isn't very good. That's good she won't be in Aquaman. I just hope they don't see the success of Wonder Woman and the greatness of Gal Gadot and think they need to shoehorn her into every DC film. I love Flashpoint but I kind of wish that wasn't their first Flash movie. I hope he isn't overshadowed by other DC characters.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 7, 2017 17:17:23 GMT
I hope they don't as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. The success of her movie is leaps and bounds past what I thought it'd be.
The studio won't let this excitement go to waste.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 7, 2017 17:18:51 GMT
Wonder Woman and Gal Gadot are the most amazing part of the DCEU so far. I hope WB doesn't think that means they should put her into a bunch of other character's films like they did with RDJ and Iron Man. Like I understand that Civil War is the kind of story that needed everybody, and so is Flashpoint, but The Flash hasn't had his time to shine on his own in the DCEU yet. Putting Wonder Woman in the first Flash solo movie is like putting Iron Man in the first MCU Spider-Man movie. I don't want the focus on the Flash taken away or overshadowed. I don’t think that’s what they’re going for but people are only giving that comparison because she was announced right after the $400m domestic reach. Marketing. The Flashpoint movie would obviously feature her so this isn’t new to anyone who read the comic or saw the animated movie. Wait until the end of this year to early next year, I bet they will announce Aquaman in the film as well after see his performance in JL. Yeah I love the comic, and I understand that it makes sense for her to appear. I just hope this remains a Flash movie and he isn't overshadowed by the other DC characters. I guess I just wish the first Flash movie wasn't Flashpoint. It'd be cool if Jeffrey Dean Morgan appears as Batman.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 7, 2017 17:44:58 GMT
Wonder Woman and Gal Gadot are the most amazing part of the DCEU so far. I hope WB doesn't think that means they should put her into a bunch of other character's films like they did with RDJ and Iron Man. Like I understand that Civil War is the kind of story that needed everybody, and so is Flashpoint, but The Flash hasn't had his time to shine on his own in the DCEU yet. Putting Wonder Woman in the first Flash solo movie is like putting Iron Man in the first MCU Spider-Man movie. I don't want the focus on the Flash taken away or overshadowed. Except the focus wasn't taken away from Spiderman, so what are you talking about?
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 7, 2017 17:53:48 GMT
Wonder Woman and Gal Gadot are the most amazing part of the DCEU so far. I hope WB doesn't think that means they should put her into a bunch of other character's films like they did with RDJ and Iron Man. Like I understand that Civil War is the kind of story that needed everybody, and so is Flashpoint, but The Flash hasn't had his time to shine on his own in the DCEU yet. Putting Wonder Woman in the first Flash solo movie is like putting Iron Man in the first MCU Spider-Man movie. I don't want the focus on the Flash taken away or overshadowed. Except the focus wasn't taken away from Spiderman, so what are you talking about? The focus was taken away from Spider-Man. Tony Stark was in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie. The entire movie was basically about Peter trying to get a reply from either Happy Hogan or Tony Stark.
When Vulture threw Spider-Man in the water, did Spider-Man save himself or did Spider-Man need to be rescued by Iron Man?
When the ferry boat split in half, did Spider-Man fix the problem by himself or did Spider-Man need Iron Man to come to the rescue?
Who gave Peter the AI-type suit that Peter used for most of the movie?
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 7, 2017 18:38:26 GMT
Except the focus wasn't taken away from Spiderman, so what are you talking about? The focus was taken away from Spider-Man. Tony Stark was in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie. The entire movie was basically about Peter trying to get a reply from either Happy Hogan or Tony Stark.
When Vulture threw Spider-Man in the water, did Spider-Man save himself or did Spider-Man need to be rescued by Iron Man?
When the ferry boat split in half, did Spider-Man fix the problem by himself od did Spider-Man need Iron Man to come to the rescue?
Who gave Peter the AI-type suit that Peter used for most of the movie?
I enjoyed Spider-Man: Homecoming, but I agree with what you said. I truly hope that won't be the case with Wonder Woman in any future DC movies. They already had Wonder Woman save Batman from that Doomsday blast in BvS, but at least that was only a few seconds in a movie that had basically no WW until the very end. I just don't want to see any solo DC movie turn into the Wonder Woman show like SMH kind of turned into the Iron Man show.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 7, 2017 18:52:21 GMT
Except the focus wasn't taken away from Spiderman, so what are you talking about? The focus was taken away from Spider-Man. Tony Stark was in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie. The entire movie was basically about Peter trying to get a reply from either Happy Hogan or Tony Stark.
When Vulture threw Spider-Man in the water, did Spider-Man save himself or did Spider-Man need to be rescued by Iron Man?
When the ferry boat split in half, did Spider-Man fix the problem by himself od did Spider-Man need Iron Man to come to the rescue?
Who gave Peter the AI-type suit that Peter used for most of the movie?
He was in the movie for 10 minutes, tops. That's not taking the focus from anything. He was in the beginning, middle and ending...in a very minor way. The movie was about Peter dealing with the fact he existed in a world where he wasn't the only hero. Homecoming didn't ignore that the way the prior Spidey movies did, which made it more challenging to do. And more entertaining.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 8, 2017 9:26:27 GMT
The focus was taken away from Spider-Man. Tony Stark was in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie. The entire movie was basically about Peter trying to get a reply from either Happy Hogan or Tony Stark.
When Vulture threw Spider-Man in the water, did Spider-Man save himself or did Spider-Man need to be rescued by Iron Man?
When the ferry boat split in half, did Spider-Man fix the problem by himself od did Spider-Man need Iron Man to come to the rescue?
Who gave Peter the AI-type suit that Peter used for most of the movie?
He was in the movie for 10 minutes, tops. That's not taking the focus from anything. He was in the beginning, middle and ending...in a very minor way. The movie was about Peter dealing with the fact he existed in a world where he wasn't the only hero. Homecoming didn't ignore that the way the prior Spidey movies did, which made it more challenging to do. And more entertaining. don't forget that Tony only appeared that shortly in the film because RDJ seemingly was too expensive. So instead of him being Spideys constant mentor we deal with a lot of awkward IM-proxy scenes where Peter talks to the Tony's aide (played by the director of IM1).
Nothing against SMHC though, it was a perfectly serviceable film suffering from a lack of ideas and balls that a re-reboot would require. It was better than the last one.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 8, 2017 10:31:56 GMT
basically agree, they must not overdo it so that WW degenerates into a mere star-cameo plot device for boosting purposes a la IM. The law of diminishing returns is merciless. If she appears she must be an integral character to the story and have her own stakes and development, or the character stagnates like the IM character.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 8, 2017 11:20:41 GMT
He was in the movie for 10 minutes, tops. That's not taking the focus from anything. He was in the beginning, middle and ending...in a very minor way. The movie was about Peter dealing with the fact he existed in a world where he wasn't the only hero. Homecoming didn't ignore that the way the prior Spidey movies did, which made it more challenging to do. And more entertaining. don't forget that Tony only appeared that shortly in the film because RDJ seemingly was too expensive.
Seemingly. OR This was how much he was supposed to be in it to begin with.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 8, 2017 11:36:34 GMT
don't forget that Tony only appeared that shortly in the film because RDJ seemingly was too expensive.
Seemingly. OR This was how much he was supposed to be in it to begin with. Seemingly
OR
you are playing with semantic and circular arguments.
Bottom line: the Stark connection was strong in this movie with Tony plus his aide mentoring SM. All was just a classic case of false adverising and artificial boosting with many film posters promoting IM as much or even bigger than SM. When you then saw the movie you realized, oh, he is barely in and has no real role to play.
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