|
|
Post by Skaathar on Aug 10, 2017 22:15:01 GMT
Or at least that's what this article is implying: movieweb.com/justice-league-movie-synopsis-wonder-woman-leader/Apparently Wonder Woman is taking front and center in the upcoming JL movie and she might be taking leadership role of the team. Not sure how I feel about that. On one hand, Gadot's Wonder Woman is by far way more developed and charismatic than Cavill's Superman or Affleck's Batman. She also had the better movie. But making Wonder Woman the leader of Justice League... well, it's like making Thor the leader of Avengers. Just seems weird. |
|
barkingbaphomet
Junior Member
all backlit and creepysmoking
@barkingbaphomet
Posts: 2,252
Likes: 1,006
|
Post by barkingbaphomet on Aug 11, 2017 0:25:56 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by brownstones on Aug 11, 2017 0:31:14 GMT
isn't that synopsis from a toy?
|
|
|
|
Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 11, 2017 0:38:22 GMT
isn't that synopsis from a toy? Yes. |
|
|
|
Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 11, 2017 0:45:55 GMT
It should still be Batman. Batman has always been the leader of the Justice League.
I have no problem with Wonder Woman being "moved up in the rotation", if you will, but Batman was the unofficial leader of the Justice League for a reason: his humanity.
He isn't an all-powerful being from underwater or another world, he was just a human. He kept them all in check.
|
|
|
|
Post by brownstones on Aug 11, 2017 0:52:38 GMT
isn't that synopsis from a toy? Yes. yeah, if that's the case then I wouldn't read into it too much, sometimes they write lines to emphasize the hero they're selling. I mean if you buy a flash toy last thing you'd expect to read is a batman centric synopsis, but I could be wrong. |
|
barkingbaphomet
Junior Member
all backlit and creepysmoking
@barkingbaphomet
Posts: 2,252
Likes: 1,006
|
Post by barkingbaphomet on Aug 11, 2017 1:12:24 GMT
yeah, if that's the case then I wouldn't read into it too much, sometimes they write lines to emphasize the hero they're selling. I mean if you buy a flash toy last thing you'd expect to read is a batman centric synopsis, but I could be wrong. |
|
|
|
Post by brownstones on Aug 11, 2017 1:15:07 GMT
yeah, if that's the case then I wouldn't read into it too much, sometimes they write lines to emphasize the hero they're selling. I mean if you buy a flash toy last thing you'd expect to read is a batman centric synopsis, but I could be wrong. Yeah I saw that, again I could be wrong, but I personally need to see if it's on numerous toys. |
|
|
|
Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 11, 2017 1:17:45 GMT
yeah, if that's the case then I wouldn't read into it too much, sometimes they write lines to emphasize the hero they're selling. I mean if you buy a flash toy last thing you'd expect to read is a batman centric synopsis, but I could be wrong. The synopsis doesn't even suggest that she's leading the team. |
|
|
|
Post by brownstones on Aug 11, 2017 1:20:32 GMT
The synopsis doesn't even suggest that she's leading the team. I think the idea is that she's a bit more highlighted |
|
|
|
Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 11, 2017 1:25:28 GMT
The synopsis doesn't even suggest that she's leading the team. I think the idea is that she's a bit more highlighted She doesn't even have top billing. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 3:51:08 GMT
It should still be Batman. Batman has always been the leader of the Justice League. I have no problem with Wonder Woman being "moved up in the rotation", if you will, but Batman was the unofficial leader of the Justice League for a reason: his humanity. He isn't an all-powerful being from underwater or another world, he was just a human. He kept them all in check. Yeah, but the psychotic murderous Batman from the DCEU isn't fit to so much as run a Boyscout troop. |
|
|
|
Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 11, 2017 4:04:58 GMT
It should still be Batman. Batman has always been the leader of the Justice League. I have no problem with Wonder Woman being "moved up in the rotation", if you will, but Batman was the unofficial leader of the Justice League for a reason: his humanity. He isn't an all-powerful being from underwater or another world, he was just a human. He kept them all in check. Yeah, but the psychotic murderous Batman from the DCEU isn't fit to so much as run a Boyscout troop. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I think the plan was always to portray Batman that way to set up an arc. I think they wanted to show how brutal and harsh Jason Todd's death made him. Then, with Superman's death, it showed Batman that there's hope for people and he'll change. I don't know; again, I very well could be wrong, but I think we might get a good arc out of this. |
|
|
|
Post by DC-Fan on Aug 11, 2017 4:18:49 GMT
Yeah, but the psychotic murderous Batman from the DCEU isn't fit to so much as run a Boyscout troop. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I think the plan was always to portray Batman that way to set up an arc. I think they wanted to show how brutal and harsh Jason Todd's death made him. Then, with Superman's death, it showed Batman that there's hope for people and he'll change. That's correct. Jason Todd's death made Batman more brutal and harsh (until Superman's sacrifice showed Batman that here's hope for Mankind). But MCU fans who complain about Batman's brutality in BvS don't understand that Batman was that way due to Jason Todd's death because MCU movies always treat war and people getting killed as a big joke.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 5:06:01 GMT
Yeah, but the psychotic murderous Batman from the DCEU isn't fit to so much as run a Boyscout troop. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I think the plan was always to portray Batman that way to set up an arc. I think they wanted to show how brutal and harsh Jason Todd's death made him. Then, with Superman's death, it showed Batman that there's hope for people and he'll change. I don't know; again, I very well could be wrong, but I think we might get a good arc out of this. The plan was to keep him that way, because Snyder doesn't understand what heroes are. Then the backlash against BvS forced WB to change literally everything. A good arc? You give the non-Patty Jenkins DCEU too much credit. |
|
|
|
Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 11, 2017 5:29:25 GMT
Yeah, but the psychotic murderous Batman from the DCEU isn't fit to so much as run a Boyscout troop. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I think the plan was always to portray Batman that way to set up an arc. I think they wanted to show how brutal and harsh Jason Todd's death made him. Then, with Superman's death, it showed Batman that there's hope for people and he'll change. I don't know; again, I very well could be wrong, but I think we might get a good arc out of this. one must be the definition of obtuse to not get that both Supes and Bats go through an character arc. Bats in BvS (as in Miller's TDK Returns) is an extremist vigilante (eg by branding criminals) and thus opposed by Supes. In the end of the film he considerably relaxes and becomes more Supes-like (eg by stopping branding people). Same with Supes in MoS who started gloomy and the film ends with a BIG smile. And its ongoing. It is no surprise that people who have avatars of characters without any arc (nice guy becomes nice guy) do not get what an character arc is. |
|
|
|
Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 11, 2017 5:49:48 GMT
1 ) The word "leader" does not appear anywhere in that synopsis. 2 ) Marvel similarly moved Tony Stark to the forefront after the success of the first Iron Man film. |
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Aug 11, 2017 6:26:35 GMT
1 ) The word "leader" does not appear anywhere in that synopsis. 2 ) Marvel similarly moved Tony Stark to the forefront after the success of the first Iron Man film. Dude, after the success of the IM film there was no one else in the MCU. IM was their first character and he was successful. Why wouldn't they make him front liner? |
|
|
|
Post by politicidal on Aug 11, 2017 12:50:56 GMT
It's either been Superman or Batman. So this is something new at least.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 11, 2017 13:27:55 GMT
1. It's a click bait article fallaciously interpreting a promotional toy text in an absurd and unwarranted way. Bats and WW teaming up does not imply that WW becomes leader of JL.
2. The basic notion of a "leader" is stupid. Are they dogs or a crime org, must they report to and obey their leader? Would a bunch of powerful indiviusals not rather found a partnership or joint venture "league" and become partners having equal member rights - like normal people? Would they not elect an administrator/managing director to manage ongoing business? Is such a MD the leader of the members/shareholders? No is the answer.
3. I have nothing against WW becoming administrator or MD of the JL. |
|
