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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 15, 2017 12:31:20 GMT
Get over yourself. We just want to see the X-Men put in a context where they have to accept the existence of non-mutant superbeings and how they'd react and deal with that instead of the same old we've been getting from Fox for 17 years. Theres not much Fox can do about thaf since theyve created a mutant only universe as other non-mutant superbeings are not registered to them except F4. Na, the MCU would focus on them more just like they focus on Cap, Stark and Thor. The only reason you believe they care about otherd is because they give the minor characters individual films which doesnt seem plausible for characters like Cyclops or Storm. Fox painted themselves into a corner then, no reason MCU has to. The MCU focuses on way more than just Cap, Stark and Thor. Even their minor characters get more focus than Cyclops and Storm have. And no, don't say "They started doing that with Apocalypse!" because that's too little too late.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 15, 2017 13:44:58 GMT
But definitely not something as lame as a "terrigen mist," yeah? I like the Terrigen Mist concept. It IS more inventive than the X-Gene. It's stupid!
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Post by politicidal on Aug 15, 2017 14:47:32 GMT
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Charles Xavier - Stanley TucciScott Summers - Richard Madden Jean Grey - Olivia Wilde
Storm - Lupita Nyong'o
Beast - Jeffrey Wright
Rogue - Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Angel - Luke Benward Kitty Pryde - Hailee SteinfeldVillains
Mr Sinister - Jason Isaacs
Sabertooth - Alexander Skarsgård
Harpoon - Mark Pellegrino Blockbuster - Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (Don't need him to do much acting tbh) Malice - Bridget Regan (originally had her as Jean but decided to switch and this way she still gets in this movie) Riptide - Diego Luna Scalphunter - Danny Trejo Tweener
Gambit - Garret Hedlund Those aren't bad. Particularly the XMEN picks I highlighted.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 15, 2017 16:23:12 GMT
Why does this topic keeping coming up every few weeks. Because MCU fans know that the X-Men are better and more interesting than the Avengers and the GotG so they want the X-Men in MCU. But that would be bad because MCU would ruin the X-Men.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 15, 2017 16:56:21 GMT
Why does this topic keeping coming up every few weeks. Because MCU fans know that the X-Men are better and more interesting than the Avengers and the GotG so they want the X-Men in MCU. But that would be bad because MCU would ruin the X-Men. More or less than what Fox did to X-Men: Origins - Wolverine which featured Barakapool, the single worst thing to have happened to Deadpool and is constantly mocked for such? Or X-Men: The Last Stand which took some of the most integral storylines from the mythos and dumbed it all down to where it wasn't just a let down as an adaptation but also a downgrade in quality following the first two? Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done.
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X-Men
Charles Xavier - Stanley TucciScott Summers - Richard Madden Jean Grey - Olivia Wilde
Storm - Lupita Nyong'o
Beast - Jeffrey Wright
Rogue - Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Angel - Luke Benward Kitty Pryde - Hailee SteinfeldVillains
Mr Sinister - Jason Isaacs
Sabertooth - Alexander Skarsgård
Harpoon - Mark Pellegrino Blockbuster - Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (Don't need him to do much acting tbh) Malice - Bridget Regan (originally had her as Jean but decided to switch and this way she still gets in this movie) Riptide - Diego Luna Scalphunter - Danny Trejo Tweener
Gambit - Garret Hedlund Those aren't bad. Particularly the XMEN picks I highlighted. Out of curiosity, what was the issue on the others? I'll be honest I have no clue if Benward or Luna can act but they seemed to fit a look. And The Mountain guy as Blockbuster I just figured a big guy was needed who I don't envision really having many lines much like Psylocke in Apocalypse.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 15, 2017 17:23:51 GMT
Because MCU fans know that the X-Men are better and more interesting than the Avengers and the GotG so they want the X-Men in MCU. But that would be bad because MCU would ruin the X-Men. More or less than what Fox did to X-Men: Origins - Wolverine which featured Barakapool, the single worst thing to have happened to Deadpool and is constantly mocked for such? Or X-Men: The Last Stand which took some of the most integral storylines from the mythos and dumbed it all down to where it wasn't just a let down as an adaptation but also a downgrade in quality following the first two? Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done. The Last Stand is only seen as terrible because of the brilliant film that preceeded it, much like Spiderman 3. And its a hell of a lot more watchable than most of the forgettable MCU films.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 15, 2017 17:58:52 GMT
Because MCU fans know that the X-Men are better and more interesting than the Avengers and the GotG so they want the X-Men in MCU. But that would be bad because MCU would ruin the X-Men. Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done. notwithstanding IM2, Hulk, Thor 2, AoU and such, this may be arguably true, but this deliberately neglects the downside of MCU: no MCU film is a veritable masterwork, not even the good ones. There are no Logans, XI-II or DoFPs or even Deadpools. They are all average, none in a top 250 movie. I take a franchise with ups and downs, sometimes giving us masterpieces, anytime over the formalized and commercialized, play-it-safe mediocrity that MCU stands for.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 15, 2017 18:05:23 GMT
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 15, 2017 18:53:16 GMT
More or less than what Fox did to X-Men: Origins - Wolverine which featured Barakapool, the single worst thing to have happened to Deadpool and is constantly mocked for such? Or X-Men: The Last Stand which took some of the most integral storylines from the mythos and dumbed it all down to where it wasn't just a let down as an adaptation but also a downgrade in quality following the first two? Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done. The Last Stand is only seen as terrible because of the brilliant film that preceeded it, much like Spiderman 3. And its a hell of a lot more watchable than most of the forgettable MCU films. Not true, a lot of people don't like The Last Stand and its more than just people who thought it didn't live up to its predecessor. There's a lot of weak spots in that movie and they're not just pointed out by comic fans but also general movie goers, is it the worst ever? No, but its viewed as the low point in the franchise on film second only to X-Men Origins: Wolverine; a film so bad they scrapped it from continuity altogether, which was the same fate for The Last Stand but done within a film in Days of Future Past.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 15, 2017 19:14:39 GMT
Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done. notwithstanding IM2, Hulk, Thor 2, AoU and such, this may be arguably true, but this deliberately neglects the downside of MCU: no MCU film is a veritable masterwork, not even the good ones. There are no Logans, XI-II or DoFPs or even Deadpools. They are all average, none in a top 250 movie. I take a franchise with ups and downs, sometimes giving us masterpieces, anytime over the formalized and commercialized, play-it-safe mediocrity that MCU stands for. What The Avengers did in 2012 changed how studios view franchises, before then it was basically "make a trilogy, and let that be the end of it" but Marvel Studios came along and established three individual franchises that interlocked with one another and led to a crossover event that was not only financially successful but also a critical success. It was not your typical blow em' up, shoot em' up, action fest it managed to blend very different characters from very different films together into a singular narrative that did not feel off in tone - which is definitely not easy to accomplish. Since 2012, Hollywood has been all about starting cinematic universes and shared continuity is the thing to do these days; every story and character matters, stand alone entries are not the norm as they once were, and as of this writing Marvel is still doing it the best. If you think the MCU has done nothing but play it safe, then you do not know much of Hollywood history and the politics going into them, the very idea of the Marvel Cinematic Universe would've been laughed at in the 90's and when it was suggested in the early to mid 00's it was laughed at, but who's laughing now? X-2, DOFP, Deadpool, and Logan were not any better than the best MCU movies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 20:20:46 GMT
More or less than what Fox did to X-Men: Origins - Wolverine which featured Barakapool, the single worst thing to have happened to Deadpool and is constantly mocked for such? Or X-Men: The Last Stand which took some of the most integral storylines from the mythos and dumbed it all down to where it wasn't just a let down as an adaptation but also a downgrade in quality following the first two? Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done. The Last Stand is only seen as terrible because of the brilliant film that preceeded it, much like Spiderman 3. And its a hell of a lot more watchable than most of the forgettable MCU films. You're an idiot.
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Post by agentblue on Aug 15, 2017 21:04:55 GMT
I think I'd go with Sinister and The Marauders implementing the Mutant massacre story line a bit for the movie. Play on the fact that a lot of mutants have hid under ground because of how they look while others like the X-Men have been able to mostly hide in plain sight because they look normal and all. Which would explain why there hasn't really been a presence of mutants so far in the MCU. Or you know, maybe Scarlett Witch does a reverse "no more mutants" type of deal and ends up creating them instead in the Infinity War somehow. Either way this would be my cast of characters. In my casting the X-Men are older as I don't want them all being kids and such. I have Kitty and Bobby being more the kids of this group while the main X-Men are represented as being a bit older like 28-32-ish (except for Beast who I'm mostly just using for voice acting here but he could just as easily be an older character if given some scenes without his beast form). Also I'm keeping away from Wolverine, Magneto, Stryker, Mystique as imo we all need a break from some of these characters. So I'm going with ones that either are main stays (Charles, Scott, Jean, and Storm) or ones that I feel haven't really been represented correctly on film. Also going with some that haven't been used at all. X-Men
Charles Xavier - Stanley Tucci Scott Summers - Richard Madden Jean Grey - Olivia Wilde Storm - Lupita Nyong'o Beast - Jeffrey Wright Rogue - Mary Elizabeth Winstead Angel - Luke Benward Kitty Pryde - Hailee Steinfeld Villains
Mr Sinister - Jason Isaacs Sabertooth - Alexander Skarsgård Harpoon - Mark Pellegrino Blockbuster - Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (Don't need him to do much acting tbh) Malice - Bridget Regan (originally had her as Jean but decided to switch and this way she still gets in this movie) Riptide - Diego Luna Scalphunter - Danny Trejo Tweener
Gambit - Garret Hedlund Nice casting, and i like how you chose Sinister as the first villain, tho I still think magneto should be first just to establish him in the MCU.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 15, 2017 21:47:33 GMT
Those aren't bad. Particularly the XMEN picks I highlighted. Out of curiosity, what was the issue on the others? I'll be honest I have no clue if Benward or Luna can act but they seemed to fit a look. And The Mountain guy as Blockbuster I just figured a big guy was needed who I don't envision really having many lines much like Psylocke in Apocalypse. Nothing really;some of these other characters I'm not familiar with so I've no opinion. As for Richard Madden, he struck me as bland outside of GoT. Nice but bland. So maybe he's ideal for Cyclops.
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Post by agentblue on Aug 15, 2017 21:50:02 GMT
Out of curiosity, what was the issue on the others? I'll be honest I have no clue if Benward or Luna can act but they seemed to fit a look. And The Mountain guy as Blockbuster I just figured a big guy was needed who I don't envision really having many lines much like Psylocke in Apocalypse. Nothing really;some of these other characters I'm not familiar with so I've no opinion. As for Richard Madden, he struck me as bland outside of GoT. Nice but bland. So maybe he's ideal for Cyclops. Id like to see Taron Edgerton as Cyclops actually and give him a prominent role in the film.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 16, 2017 0:08:05 GMT
Because MCU fans know that the X-Men are better and more interesting than the Avengers and the GotG so they want the X-Men in MCU. But that would be bad because MCU would ruin the X-Men. More or less than what Fox did to X-Men: Origins - Wolverine which featured Barakapool, the single worst thing to have happened to Deadpool and is constantly mocked for such? Or X-Men: The Last Stand which took some of the most integral storylines from the mythos and dumbed it all down to where it wasn't just a let down as an adaptation but also a downgrade in quality following the first two? Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done. Those people don't work at Fox anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 0:11:45 GMT
More or less than what Fox did to X-Men: Origins - Wolverine which featured Barakapool, the single worst thing to have happened to Deadpool and is constantly mocked for such? Or X-Men: The Last Stand which took some of the most integral storylines from the mythos and dumbed it all down to where it wasn't just a let down as an adaptation but also a downgrade in quality following the first two? Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done. Those people don't work at Fox anymore. They've been replaced with people who are just as incompetent, though.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 16, 2017 0:15:36 GMT
Those people don't work at Fox anymore. They've been replaced with people who are just as incompetent, though. Says the guy who didn't read the storylines the films were based on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 0:19:04 GMT
They've been replaced with people who are just as incompetent, though. Says the guy who didn't read the storylines the films were based on. Nice attempt at changing the subject. The films mangle the X-Men storylines so much that the comic books they're based on are a complete non-factor. And I HAVE read them. Nice try, though.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 16, 2017 0:42:35 GMT
More or less than what Fox did to X-Men: Origins - Wolverine which featured Barakapool, the single worst thing to have happened to Deadpool and is constantly mocked for such? Or X-Men: The Last Stand which took some of the most integral storylines from the mythos and dumbed it all down to where it wasn't just a let down as an adaptation but also a downgrade in quality following the first two? Nothing Marvel Studios has done has been anywhere as bad as Origins and The Last Stand, not just as films but also as stories and character portrayal. The worst MCU film is still miles ahead of those two, and even more watchable than the "middle of the road" X-Men films Fox has done. The Last Stand is only seen as terrible because of the brilliant film that preceeded it, much like Spiderman 3. And its a hell of a lot more watchable than most of the forgettable MCU films. X2 wasn't that great either, it just had no competition so people didn't know better and now it has nostalgia filtering it to make it seem better.
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