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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 21, 2017 0:51:58 GMT
funny, I always thought they can't stand the fact that MCU fans are relentlessly bullying their forums by demanding X-Men must be returned to Marvel/MCU because "Fox-Men" movies did it all wrong especially with Logan and the X-Men should get the My Little Pony goes Disney treatment. The obliviousness is part of being a militant MCU McDipshit, like formersamhmd or ArArArchStanton . It's not enough to just enjoy these movies like a normal person, which incidentally is perfectly fine and dandy. It's all about being a smug fucking kunt regarding Marvel to literally everyone with whom one interacts, for really no reason at all. And also arbitrarily trashing DCEU and/or Fox movies as though it's obligatory and necessary. It's payback, that's what it is.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 21, 2017 1:32:00 GMT
The obliviousness is part of being a militant MCU McDipshit, like formersamhmd or ArArArchStanton . It's not enough to just enjoy these movies like a normal person, which incidentally is perfectly fine and dandy. It's all about being a smug fucking kunt regarding Marvel to literally everyone with whom one interacts, for really no reason at all. And also arbitrarily trashing DCEU and/or Fox movies as though it's obligatory and necessary. They just let Captain America be Captain America You mean an arrogant, egotistical, power-hungry dictator and murderer. Yep, that describes MCU Captain America perfectly.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 21, 2017 1:53:08 GMT
They just let Captain America be Captain America You mean an arrogant, egotistical, power-hungry dictator and murderer. No, that's Batman.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 21, 2017 1:54:18 GMT
You mean an arrogant, egotistical, power-hungry dictator and murderer. No, that's Batman. Nope, that was Captain America in Civil War.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 21, 2017 2:56:52 GMT
Nope, that was Captain America in Civil War. No, Cap was fighting for his freedom. Batman's a fascist.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 21, 2017 3:17:24 GMT
Nope, that was Captain America in Civil War. No, Cap was fighting for his freedom. Batman's a fascist. No, Cap was aiding and abetting a double-murderer.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 21, 2017 12:26:08 GMT
The Dark Knight is the best comic book film of all time.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 21, 2017 12:41:17 GMT
The Dark Knight is the best comic book film of all time. /Thread Nah, it just had Heath Ledger dying to make the movie immune to criticism.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 21, 2017 12:42:08 GMT
No, Cap was fighting for his freedom. Batman's a fascist. No, Cap was aiding and abetting a brainwashed man who wasn't being treated fairly. Fixed. And Batman's fine working with actual murderers when it suits him.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 21, 2017 14:31:50 GMT
No, Cap was aiding and abetting a brainwashed man who wasn't being treated fairly. Fixed. And Batman's fine working with actual murderers when it suits him. Yeah? He's the Dark Knight?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Aug 21, 2017 15:14:35 GMT
The Avengers, Iron Man, Civil War, Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy people hold in high regard for understandable reasons and that's it.
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Post by sostie on Aug 22, 2017 11:32:35 GMT
I was watching the Collider Heros youtube video that was released yesterday and they were doing the best 5 CBMs of all time. youtu.be/OzGGFm7spqwThe host Schnepp, who I consider the most genuine and true comic book aficionado in on YouTube, gave his definitive top 5 and the other 2 guests, Robert M Burnett and Amy pitched in loosely with theirs So this Schnepp fella's views are valid/important/correct more than others because you consider him the most genuine and true comic book aficionado? His opinions matter because YOU think they do...bit biased A list as important and accurate as anyone else who compiles one. Good for Amy. But so what? Never heard/ read that complaint...but then not been into many X-verse vs MCU threads. (Just so you don't throw an MCU fanatic accusation at me later on, here's where I stand. MCU - have found almost every film so far satisfying, none I would consider terrible. X-verse - generally v good, with two of the best CBMs in its catalogue. DCEU - I want them to be good, but only 1 has been decent. Other DC films - with a few exceptions (some of the Batman & Superman sequels mainly) there have been some great films.) If Schnepp says so it must be right. You assume just because people do not agree with Schnepp they have limited knowledge and are not cultured! If only we all could be a members of the elite. Is there an exam? Questionnaire? Or do you just decide who is and isn't? Well duh! Of course it is biased...as you say, they are MCU FANATICS. What do you expect? Also there are Anti-MCU FANATICS whose opinion is "bias". And not everyone who likes MCU films are fanatics. There is a very vocal fanatical minority, but that shouldn't mean that anyone that ranks MCU films highly should be dismissed and lumped in with that group (ditto the anti-MCU) So what. The opinions of a group of people you have decided YOU don't consider cultured and knowledgeable against the opinions of people who follow someone YOU do consider cultured and knowledgeable. No bias there eh! And I'm guessing the majority of those views are on the Marvel Board. You expect neutrality there? Not truth. Opinion. As valid/invalid as mine, Schnepp's, any Marvel fanatic, any DC fanatc, or anyone else that has seen the films. Really? So how many of the general audience have you questioned/polled? How do you measure what is "memorable" in this context? Don't forget Civil War. Schnepp says it's the second best. And Schnepp knows best because he is so cultured and so knowledgeable.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 23, 2017 20:16:57 GMT
I'm a HUGE MCU fan. I think the best CBM's (Marvel/DC) are: 1. The Dark Knight 2. Spider-Man 2 3. The Winter Soldier 4. Wonder Woman 5. Iron Man (It was the last movie I saw with my father before he passed, so any personal bias there is not MCU related) Honorable Mentions: Batman Returns Batman Begins Deadpool Logan Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 I totally understand any criticism I would get for GotGv2, but I just think it has the most personal and emotional stakes of any other MCU film. It's got sacrifice and salvation. This article is a good examination of it compared to something like Avengers: Age of Ultron (which I thought was entertaining but a disappointment). What GotGv2 Gets So Right, and What A:AoU Gets So Wrong
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 24, 2017 0:04:17 GMT
Nobody said all the MCU movies were great or that Doctor Strange was one of the best superhero movies. Just a quick look on IMDB shows that most MCU movies have good but not spectacular user scores so you're speaking nonsense for the most part. The Avengers, Iron Man, Civil War, Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy people hold in high regard for understandable reasons and that's it. Why can't they understand this? These guys have this unnatural thought process that tells them that people that like the MCU think they are the best movies ever made. They are just good satisfying movies that shows how you do a series of movies from different points of view. I can continually watch the Dark Knight trilogy, the Raimi Spider-man trilogy, the Chris Reeve Superman movies, the Burton series, it doesn't matter what company they came from. What people like charzhino don't get is that we all are saying that the other studios need to git gud.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 24, 2017 0:17:32 GMT
But then at the same time every single MCU movie has had majority positive reviews. 14 out of 16 movies have a 7.0 or higher on IMDB with the two that don't still having a 6.8 and a 6.9. Batman on the other hand has multiple movies with terrible reviews. Batman Forever has a 5.4 and Batman and Robin has a 3.7 on IMDB. X-men has multiple movies with poor reviews as well. Three of these movies have inferior user scores to the MCU's lowest scored movie. So you can't conveniently pick things out. you did not quite get the point, did you? One brilliant Mozart is more worth than a dozen mediocre Salieris. One top medal place is more worth than a hundred forth places. I am not interested in your averages, that is exactly the MCU's problem... But they have MCU movies on their best movies lists. And one of them (the list from the woman) has Wonder Woman on there. Why is there no BvS? Suicide Squad won an Oscar, why isn't that on anyone's list? You just hate that people consistently like the MCU. I'm guessing The Dark Knight is what you are referring to when you say "One brilliant Mozart", but why can't DC replicate that brilliance? They are actively competing with the MCU right now and they have not one movie that can outshine them. Their only shining light is Wonder Woman and I hope that Gal Gadot has a lot of Gatorade because they are going to run her ragged. She's going to be DC's Wolverine. I think DC doesn't care if Affleck quits the Batman role because they have Wonder Woman. When DC makes a successful movie out of an obscure character, then they have room to say they are doing good. First they need to get off of Batman's nut sack. Friggin Joker movie. WTF?!
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 24, 2017 0:19:46 GMT
you did not quite get the point, did you? One brilliant Mozart is more worth than a dozen mediocre Salieris. One top medal place is more worth than a hundred forth places. I am not interested in your averages, that is exactly the MCU's problem... They are actively competing with the MCU right now and they have not one movie that can outshine them. Wonder Woman already outshines every MCU movie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 0:20:56 GMT
you did not quite get the point, did you? One brilliant Mozart is more worth than a dozen mediocre Salieris. One top medal place is more worth than a hundred forth places. I am not interested in your averages, that is exactly the MCU's problem... But they have MCU movies on their best movies lists. And one of them (the list from the woman) has Wonder Woman on there. Why is there no BvS? Suicide Squad won an Oscar, why isn't that on anyone's list? You just hate that people consistently like the MCU. I'm guessing The Dark Knight is what you are referring to when you say "One brilliant Mozart", but why can't DC replicate that brilliance? They are actively competing with the MCU right now and they have not one movie that can outshine them. Their only shining light is Wonder Woman and I hope that Gal Gadot has a lot of Gatorade because they are going to run her ragged. She's going to be DC's Wolverine. I think DC doesn't care if Affleck quits the Batman role because they have Wonder Woman. When DC makes a successful movie out of an obscure character, then they have room to say they are doing good. First they need to get off of Batman's nut sack. Friggin Joker movie. WTF?! ThatGuy, you are talking to a brain dead insect who will just insult you and insist you're wrong and stupid because he says so. Just block him and forget him.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 24, 2017 0:27:49 GMT
They are actively competing with the MCU right now and they have not one movie that can outshine them. Wonder Woman already outshines every MCU movie. Wonder Woman only looks good because of the people she's associated with. It's like an average looking girl that hangs out with a bunch of ugly girls. It makes her look better. A stootfish... lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 0:34:21 GMT
If Wonder Woman outshines every MCU, how come she hasn't made a billion yet?
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 24, 2017 0:39:58 GMT
They are actively competing with the MCU right now and they have not one movie that can outshine them. Wonder Woman already outshines every MCU movie. No, it equals them. And it's mainly due to the artificial boosters the movie got.
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