'X-Men - Color and Costumes' Video Essay by kaptainkristian

I look forward to the meltdown this causes.

James Gunn actually did the same thing with Guardians. Plus Singer doesn't do that anymore.

No, I'm very much in the right.



screenrant.com/chris-pratt-guardians-of-the-galaxy-set-interview/




www.cbr.com/saldana-walks-a-very-righteous-path-as-guardians-of-the-galaxys-gamora/

The actress that played Storm in Apocalypse was reading comics on set.

www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/alexandra-shipp-teases-storm-x-men-apocalypse-video

I said Gunn didn't allow his actors to read comics either. You said I was wrong. I posted proof to my claim. You still say that I'm wrong while at the same time acknowledge that Gunn didn't allow his actors to read comics. See how contradictory that is?

And Gunn has admitted to disliking some aspects of the comics. Like Starlord's true father.

Not a fan of the Ultimate line are you?

And yet you're still wrong.

"I said Gunn didn't allow his actors to read comics either."
Irrelevant.

"You said I was wrong. I posted proof to my claim."
No, what you have a few superficial similarities in the productions of both, but you've missed the trees for the forest. While Gunn made Guardians coming from a place of genuine love for comic books, Singer approached it from the perspective that the comics are just silly nonsense he needs to fix.

"You still say that I'm wrong while at the same time acknowledge that Gunn didn't allow his actors to read comics. See how contradictory that is?"
No, because of the differing attitudes in both filmmakers. Gunn embraced the spirit of the comics while Singer rejected it.

"And Gunn has admitted to disliking some aspects of the comics."
Everyone dislikes aspects of the comics they read. It comes with the territory of a medium that trades writers and artists all the time. Its a moot point.

"Like Starlord's true father."
And yet he bit the bullet and paid Ego his dues on-screen, properly. You will never get something like that out of Singer. By the way, when are we getting the real Juggernaut in the X-Men films. The REAL one. The one that's Xavier's hateful step-brother that's not a mutant.

"Not a fan of the Ultimate line are you?"
No.

"Also, another conmparsion is that the GOTG do not read the costumes they have in the comics either."
He also didn't put them in uniformly black rubber suits and actually allowed the viewers to enjoy seeing some color.

At the end of the day, James Gunn made better Guardians of the Galaxy films than Bryan Singer made X-Men films. While Singer made a generic X-Men 2 featuring generic villains, Gunn went for broke with his sequel.

"Actually it's pretty relevant since it's pretty much nullifies that poster's argument."
It does nothing of the sort.

"Are you making guesses without checking again?"
I don't guess. I know.

"According to Gunn himself he was trying to do his own thing. I even quoted him. Even one of the creators mentioned one of the major changes he made."
Every comic book undergoes "major changes" from page to screen. You are proving nothing.

"Yet you dislike Singer for feeling the same way as Gunn."
Gunn DOES NOT feel the same way about comic books, and the films he made prove it. If he was as ashamed of the source material as Singer is of the X-Men, he wouldn't have put so much into them. Unlike the X-Men films, where everyone who isn't Wolverine, Xavier, or Magneto is a uniform cipher, EVERYONE in Guardians has a character, an arc, and very defined reasons for the things they say and do.
If Gunn feels so ashamed by comic books and like he needs to fix them, he wouldn't have put so much FROM the comics into the both the films. Singer would never have had the balls include Howard the Duck.

"That's because X3 kinda ruined that. So they went with the Ultimate version of Xavier's backstory."
And no comment about how well-done Ego was. I can see your agenda now. Still refusing to give Marvel Studios any sort of credit, I see.

"The X-films have been a mix of 616 and Ultimate comics since X2. Which was really just God Loves Man Kills meets Return to Weapon X. It's actually the first Marvel film to do that. Which Marvel Studios would later imitate with its Avenger characters."
Correction. Its the first attempt. Marvel Studios PERFECTED it with the Avenger characters by actually doing it right.

"Says the guy who admitted he didn't read the story X2 was based on."
I admitted nothing of the sort.

Pay attention to what I actually said. I said Gunn has a genuine love of COMICS. Notice the general term I used there. I never said he was a huge fan of Guardians, but he did take the time to read what he was adapting, unlike Singer. In fact, Gunn demonstrates being quite knowledgable of comics through both films if you bothered to pay any sort of attention.

Actually, whether or not each and every character has development and an arc is relevant, because you see, even if the Guardians don't perfectly line up with their comic counterparts, that's still better than how Singer has treated most of the X-Men characters. And you wanna know what else? Multiple fans of the FoX-Men films, including mellomoviereview, have admitted that if Singer and Fox were in charge of the MCU, they'd have treated Ironman the way they treat Wolverine, and Captain America the way they treated Cyclops. So do not continue to try insisting that the X-Men films are respectful in any way, shape, or form when the MCU at large has taken great pains to be as true as they can be most of the time.

"Because I didn't watch the movie. So I don't have an opinion on Ego. Plus it's not relevant to my point."
And we're done. If you can't even muster the decency to have seen the film we're comparing and arguing over, then there is no reason to continue.

Oh, and I criticized nothing unwittingly. I'm not a fan of God Loves Man Kills or Return to Weapon X, either. Not that X-Men 2 was an even remotely good adaptation of either one. Two stories that don't hold up that well were made into a movie that doesn't hold up that well. What a surprise. And what they did to poor Lady Deathstrike is EMBARRASSING. So a film that's obsessed with uncovering Wolverine's shady past includes a character that's A PART of that past and then casts out everything she had to do with Wolvy's past. Huh. Fuck Singer.

Didn't really read what was said there, huh?  He said not to read that series of comics that Pratt brought to him and that he didn't have to read any of them because he's not taking from a specific comic.  And that if he had to read anything of the Guardians to read this series.  No where did it say there that Gunn told them they couldn't read Guardians' comics.