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Post by scabab on Sept 21, 2017 4:06:28 GMT
uk.ign.com/articles/2017/09/21/the-defenders-is-least-watched-marvel-series-launch-on-netflix-in-the-us"In the United States, The Defenders garnered fewer viewers in its first 30 days than any of Netflix's other original Marvel series. Based on benchmark analysis from marketing-analytics firm Jumpshot, The Defenders had 17 percent of the viewership that Season 2 of Daredevil (Netflix's most-viewed Marvel show) had in its first 30 days, Variety reports. It's worth noting the research was limited to Netflix subscribers in the US who watched at least one episode of each show. Netflix's other Marvel series performed similarly in their first 30 days on the service. Iron Fist garnered 28 percent of Daredevil: Season 2's viewership, while Luke Cage and Jessica Jones had 27 percent and 26 percent, respectively. The Defenders also suffered the largest week-over-week drop in viewers when compared to the other Netflix Marvel series. Its viewership dropped by 67 percent from its first to second week, 48 percent from its second to third, and 41 percent from its third to fourth." Now that has really got to sting. I'm really really surprised by that. I can maybe understand it doing worse numbers than D aredevil but to do even worse than Iron Fist despite its poor reviews is just plain shocking.
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Post by darkpast on Sept 21, 2017 4:26:03 GMT
Netflix may be mad at Disney pulling content so they sabotage their Marvel shows
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 21, 2017 5:12:08 GMT
uk.ign.com/articles/2017/09/21/the-defenders-is-least-watched-marvel-series-launch-on-netflix-in-the-us"In the United States, The Defenders garnered fewer viewers in its first 30 days than any of Netflix's other original Marvel series. Based on benchmark analysis from marketing-analytics firm Jumpshot, The Defenders had 17 percent of the viewership that Season 2 of Daredevil (Netflix's most-viewed Marvel show) had in its first 30 days, Variety reports. It's worth noting the research was limited to Netflix subscribers in the US who watched at least one episode of each show. Netflix's other Marvel series performed similarly in their first 30 days on the service. Iron Fist garnered 28 percent of Daredevil: Season 2's viewership, while Luke Cage and Jessica Jones had 27 percent and 26 percent, respectively. The Defenders also suffered the largest week-over-week drop in viewers when compared to the other Netflix Marvel series. Its viewership dropped by 67 percent from its first to second week, 48 percent from its second to third, and 41 percent from its third to fourth." Now that has really got to sting. I'm really really surprised by that. I can maybe understand it doing worse numbers than D aredevil but to do even worse than Iron Fist despite its poor reviews is just plain shocking. 1st, SMH flops, dropping 60% on its 2nd weekend and another 50% on its 3rd weekend. Then, Inhumans is a disaster. Now, The Defenders is getting low ratings.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 21, 2017 5:21:10 GMT
uk.ign.com/articles/2017/09/21/the-defenders-is-least-watched-marvel-series-launch-on-netflix-in-the-us"In the United States, The Defenders garnered fewer viewers in its first 30 days than any of Netflix's other original Marvel series. Based on benchmark analysis from marketing-analytics firm Jumpshot, The Defenders had 17 percent of the viewership that Season 2 of Daredevil (Netflix's most-viewed Marvel show) had in its first 30 days, Variety reports. It's worth noting the research was limited to Netflix subscribers in the US who watched at least one episode of each show. Netflix's other Marvel series performed similarly in their first 30 days on the service. Iron Fist garnered 28 percent of Daredevil: Season 2's viewership, while Luke Cage and Jessica Jones had 27 percent and 26 percent, respectively. The Defenders also suffered the largest week-over-week drop in viewers when compared to the other Netflix Marvel series. Its viewership dropped by 67 percent from its first to second week, 48 percent from its second to third, and 41 percent from its third to fourth." Now that has really got to sting. I'm really really surprised by that. I can maybe understand it doing worse numbers than D aredevil but to do even worse than Iron Fist despite its poor reviews is just plain shocking. 1st, SMH flops, dropping 60% on its 2nd weekend and another 50% on its 3rd weekend. Then, Inhumans is a disaster. Now, The Defenders is getting low ratings. 1st, SMH didn't flop. Inhumans can still be saved. The Defenders has only done "low" compared to the other shows that led into it when they premiered, the OP also notes this is coming from U.S., not worldwide.
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Post by scabab on Sept 21, 2017 5:52:02 GMT
1st, SMH flops, dropping 60% on its 2nd weekend and another 50% on its 3rd weekend. Then, Inhumans is a disaster. Now, The Defenders is getting low ratings. The Inhumans reviews and The Defenders ratings are a cause for concern, sure. Spider-man's weekend drops are not a problem considering that it was boosted by strong weekdays. It has actually had a better multiplier than most superhero movies in general. Of the 15 other MCU movies only 4 of them dropped better and that was partly because they were the first in a series. It's actually out grossed Batman vs Superman despite that movie opening to $49 million more on opening weekend.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 21, 2017 6:03:05 GMT
That's a shame. I hate to see anyone making such an effort be disappointed in anyway. Hopefully, it will not discourage them in the future!
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 21, 2017 7:45:04 GMT
Wait, so Iron Fist is their second most watched show? That's a million kinds of wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 10:41:11 GMT
Inhumans is actually more than ok.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 21, 2017 13:04:55 GMT
It's the Iron Fist effect.
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Post by dazz on Sept 21, 2017 22:49:39 GMT
What this says to me and maybe I am misunderstanding this but all it is saying is the Defenders was the least viewed by the Marvel Netflix core group, for all we know Defenders though had 5 times as many new viewers, or it had a lot more people who only watched DD S2 and 1 other show but not the other 2.
It's great for fear mongering and people like DC-Fan but until we get given hard numbers it's all just bullshit really.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 22, 2017 9:35:03 GMT
What this says to me and maybe I am misunderstanding this but all it is saying is the Defenders was the least viewed by the Marvel Netflix core group, for all we know Defenders though had 5 times as many new viewers, or it had a lot more people who only watched DD S2 and 1 other show but not the other 2. It's great for fear mongering and people like DC-Fan but until we get given hard numbers it's all just bullshit really. ah yes, I see your point: denial already shifting towards a bit of adhom anger and bargaining at the end.
No shame in that, friend. The five stages of realization - ie denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance - are a part of the framework that makes up our learning to live with the terrible truth. They are psychological tools to help us frame and identify what we may be feeling. But they are not stops on some linear timeline in grief.
Deny on my man. You have my sincerest sympathies.
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Post by miike80 on Sept 22, 2017 9:51:13 GMT
Inhumans is actually more than ok. Not even Marvel believes that. that's why it will be cancelled after season one
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 22, 2017 9:51:17 GMT
1st, SMH flops, dropping 60% on its 2nd weekend and another 50% on its 3rd weekend. Then, Inhumans is a disaster. Now, The Defenders is getting low ratings. The Inhumans reviews and The Defenders ratings are a cause for concern, sure. Spider-man's weekend drops are not a problem considering that it was boosted by strong weekdays. It has actually had a better multiplier than most superhero movies in general. Of the 15 other MCU movies only 4 of them dropped better and that was partly because they were the first in a series. It's actually out grossed Batman vs Superman despite that movie opening to $49 million more on opening weekend. I thought the Defenders got good reviews?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 22, 2017 10:05:42 GMT
The Inhumans reviews and The Defenders ratings are a cause for concern, sure. Spider-man's weekend drops are not a problem considering that it was boosted by strong weekdays. It has actually had a better multiplier than most superhero movies in general. Of the 15 other MCU movies only 4 of them dropped better and that was partly because they were the first in a series. It's actually out grossed Batman vs Superman despite that movie opening to $49 million more on opening weekend. I thought the Defenders got good reviews? nope 75% on RT with an average of 6.4 is not good for a TV shows, the good ones are usually around the 90-100 percent (btw I saw it and it was really mediocre and devoid of actual story ideas).
Audience rating of 78% is even even more jarring low considering the heavy artificial booster of built it fanatical MCU fanbase and this being a Avenger-like joining of forces of 4 TV shows assembled.
Is this the beginning of the end of the MCU? No, but it may be the end of the beginning of it's complete reboot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 10:24:40 GMT
Inhumans is actually more than ok. Not even Marvel believes that. that's why it will be cancelled after season one I have seen the first two episodes. Have you?
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 22, 2017 12:56:59 GMT
I understand why. My hype was way lower for this than I thought it would be. That is mostly because I wasn't too fond of Iron Fist or Luke Cage. The Defenders was just an average show. I hope The Punisher can match the quality of Daredevil and Jessica Jones.
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Post by dazz on Sept 22, 2017 14:26:02 GMT
What this says to me and maybe I am misunderstanding this but all it is saying is the Defenders was the least viewed by the Marvel Netflix core group, for all we know Defenders though had 5 times as many new viewers, or it had a lot more people who only watched DD S2 and 1 other show but not the other 2. It's great for fear mongering and people like DC-Fan but until we get given hard numbers it's all just bullshit really. ah yes, I see your point: denial already shifting towards a bit of adhom anger and bargaining at the end.
No shame in that, friend. The five stages of realization - ie denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance - are a part of the framework that makes up our learning to live with the terrible truth. They are psychological tools to help us frame and identify what we may be feeling. But they are not stops on some linear timeline in grief.
Deny on my man. You have my sincerest sympathies.
Not denying anything just stating that this is by it's own admission selective breakdown of the numbers, which are left vague so we cant even form a real understanding of what they mean beyond the whole less of the hardcore audience watched Defenders than any of the other shows.
Can that be a bad thing? absolutely, if it's part of a general trend then it's absolutely a bad thing, but then again it could be meaningless, I dunno which it is but I like to try and be optimistic.
But whatever man carry on it's no skin off my nose.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 22, 2017 18:20:18 GMT
Isn't their team-up movie supposed to have the highest ratings? When CW did their 4-show crossover last season, those episodes got the highest ratings. How does The Defenders get lower ratings than the individual shows?
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 22, 2017 21:30:02 GMT
I thought the Defenders got good reviews? nope 75% on RT with an average of 6.4 is not good for a TV shows, the good ones are usually around the 90-100 percent (btw I saw it and it was really mediocre and devoid of actual story ideas).
Audience rating of 78% is even even more jarring low considering the heavy artificial booster of built it fanatical MCU fanbase and this being a Avenger-like joining of forces of 4 TV shows assembled.
If you're ashamed of comics, maybe. Anyways, lower ratings are due to audiences thinking they had to watch all 4 prior shows and a lot didn't want to do that. Sadly the Defenders promos didn't make it clear you really don't need to watch all 4 prior series. Show wasn't that well marketed. And no, it's not the start of any reboot since the MCU Netflix shows are a relatively tiny sector of the MCU.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 22, 2017 22:22:22 GMT
If you're ashamed of comics, maybe. Anyways, lower ratings are due to audiences thinking they had to watch all 4 prior shows and a lot didn't want to do that. Sadly the Defenders promos didn't make it clear you really don't need to watch all 4 prior series. Show wasn't that well marketed. And no, it's not the start of any reboot since the MCU Netflix shows are a relatively tiny sector of the MCU. sounds like a solid piece of denial there, sam. But there is still light at the end of the MCU tunnel: I am sure the Inhuman's viewership numbers will soon make Defenders look like a certified triumph. Remember this is all MCU: a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Speaking of weak links, I bet that porn addicted buffoon ArchStanton-Eloi and the rabid bronyraptor now wish they had not opened their filthy mouths so much, lol. Both nowhere in sight, always cowardly going on fanboy vacation leaving others behind when facing defeats. Anyway, I feel a little bit sorry for you and the more levelled MCU fans.
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