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Post by kleinreturns on Oct 3, 2017 1:47:13 GMT
Does anyone here like NOES 2:Freddy's Revenge???
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 3, 2017 3:28:41 GMT
People either underrate it for its oddities or overrate it because "it's the last time Freddy was scary". I'm somewhere in between.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Oct 3, 2017 5:35:50 GMT
I very much do. Always have.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Oct 3, 2017 12:02:09 GMT
My favorite of the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise, not the best but the one I have seen most and it never fails to deliver the goods. Funny, and very memorable along with some fantastic special effects and I think it was the first of the series that I saw, so that too might be another reason to why I like it so much.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Oct 3, 2017 18:27:01 GMT
Yeah. Have always been a fan of this one. It has a superb intro, Freddy is still creepy as hell and it's all so deliciously 80s. Never understood all the hate that gets directed at it.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 3, 2017 18:38:03 GMT
It's great, why the hate?
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 3, 2017 18:44:25 GMT
I enjoy it, but I do tend to laugh at it quite a bit. It seems to be the cheapest and most poorly made of the series, with poor production values and shoddy directing.. outside of some solid effects.
Also, the gay not-so-under--tones are a bit distracting and do get laughable. At the time it may have been difficult, but if the intention was for the movie to be about the character, and side characters, to be gay then it would have been in its best interest to be clear about that and not pretend that he was romantically interested in thar Meryl Streep lookalike from Seinfeld.
A lot of the logic of what's actually going doesn't make much sense at all, and the gym teacher stuff is ludicrous and bizarre. It's all too stupid for me to fully like it, but it's entertaining, and that opening sequence is actually rather good and is very surreal and evocative of what the character is all about. So it's not all bad.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 4, 2017 9:17:19 GMT
It seems to be the cheapest and most poorly made of the series, with poor production values and shoddy directing.. outside of some solid effects. I don't know, Freddy's Dead looks and feels like a TV movie at times. Part 2 has script problems, but the direction seemed alright to me.
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Post by Marv on Oct 4, 2017 9:54:52 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Flynn on Oct 5, 2017 12:41:27 GMT
I remember being disappointed with it when I first saw it on VHS back in 86. It's an okay film, but it never really goes where I want it to go. Overall, I think it's fine, but it isn't one I would consider great.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 5, 2017 16:35:10 GMT
I enjoy it, but I do tend to laugh at it quite a bit. It seems to be the cheapest and most poorly made of the series, with poor production values and shoddy directing.. outside of some solid effects. Also, the gay not-so-under--tones are a bit distracting and do get laughable. At the time it may have been difficult, but if the intention was for the movie to be about the character, and side characters, to be gay then it would have been in its best interest to be clear about that and not pretend that he was romantically interested in thar Meryl Streep lookalike from Seinfeld. A lot of the logic of what's actually going doesn't make much sense at all, and the gym teacher stuff is ludicrous and bizarre. It's all too stupid for me to fully like it, but it's entertaining, and that opening sequence is actually rather good and is very surreal and evocative of what the character is all about. So it's not all bad. I have fond memories of seeing this in a theater with my friends, a month after seeing the first one on cable TV. The school bus scene is excellent. I know now about the gay undertones, but back then, none of us had a clue and never noticed. We were so innocent in the 80's! Not sure how I could have missed them, especially the gym teacher stuff. Now, it's obvious but doesn't take away from the movie. I read that the lead actor who played Jesse, Mark Patton, was actually gay in reality. The director denied any gay subtext and tried to blame Mark, years later, he admitted he did include it.
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Post by darkknightofgotham on Oct 5, 2017 16:41:01 GMT
I like it. Better than parts 4-6. The pool party scene with Freddy is also one of the best scenes in the series imo.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 5, 2017 17:24:43 GMT
I like it. Better than parts 4-6. The pool party scene with Freddy is also one of the best scenes in the series imo. "You are all my children now!" Freddy was badass af in that scene. No one liners, just evil menace.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 6:49:48 GMT
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 6, 2017 14:41:11 GMT
I Think the directing is shoddy in some parts. It never quite works the surrealism angles the way the best of the series does, and some very simple kitchen table scenes are very amateurish. We may be talking about the same thing when you say it's TV-movie-ish, but certain things like basic shot selection and flat lighting, and poor juxtaposition shouldn't really cost all that much.
As far as the gay undertones going unnoticed, I probably wouldn't have thought much about if I had seen it when I was much younger, but it's hard to imagine seeing the main character wander in his subconscious into an S&M leather bar in the middle of the night and run into his gym teacher dressed like the lead singer from Judas Priest who then brings him to their high school in the middle of the night for physical punishment (What the fuck!?!?) and then get tied up in the showers and towel whipped til his ass is raw... and not think it was a little gay.
And I'm sure there were homophobic complaints against the movie, but my issue with that aspect is that it was really goofy, and it didn't have the convictions to actually go with the concept that was actually there. I think a high school character struggling with and being afriad of being gay is a solid foundation for a Freddy Kruger movie. Him exploiting those fears could make for a great story actually. I just don't think it was handled well at all.
Some solid set pieces though. Especially the opening sequence and the one effect where Freddy emerges, 'coming-out' if you will, from the lead character...
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 6, 2017 14:56:36 GMT
And I'm sure there were homophobic complaints against the movie, but my issue with that aspect is that it was really goofy, and it didn't have the convictions to actually go with the concept that was actually there. I think a high school character struggling with and being afriad of being gay is a solid foundation for a Freddy Kruger movie. Him exploiting those fears could make for a great story actually. I just don't think it was handled well at all. There was not much chance of them doing that back then, although I agree it would be a unique angle for Freddy to pursue.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 6, 2017 14:58:35 GMT
As far as the gay undertones going unnoticed, I probably wouldn't have thought much about if I had seen it when I was much younger, but it's hard to imagine seeing the main character wander in his subconscious into an S&M leather bar in the middle of the night and run into his gym teacher dressed like the lead singer from Judas Priest who then brings him to their high school in the middle of the night for physical punishment (What the fuck!?!?) and then get tied up in the showers and towel whipped til his ass is raw... and not think it was a little gay. When you put it that way, how in Hell did I not realize what was happening back then? Man, I was so green at 15!
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