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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 9, 2017 10:42:43 GMT
What was not predictable about Logan is how his mindset started and ended. That was pretty damn predictable as well. Minor variation of how he usually acts. That's not out of the ordinary for him. It is if you've known anything about his character outside of these movies. Hell, he was broken and suicidal in the "Weapon X" story that chronicled how he got his skeleton for the first time. And it couldn't even be a regular continuity movie, it had to be some "far future AU" thing. Cowardice.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 9, 2017 19:39:11 GMT
OP your assumption was wrong. sure it is an MCU board but it does not mean people cant make common sense on a topic here. Ah, typical FoX-Fan pretentiousness.... where would we be without it? simple: Fox-men would be a bunch of formulaic PG-13 movies without allegoric messages, but littered with random funny jokes and "natural dialogue" such as "I have famously huge turds"... Unpretentiously put: kiddy CBMs. I for one am glad it's the way it is, but to each his own.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 9, 2017 20:07:34 GMT
Ah, typical FoX-Fan pretentiousness.... where would we be without it? simple: Fox-men would be a bunch of formulaic PG-13 movies without allegoric messages, but littered with random funny jokes and "natural dialogue" such as "I have famously huge turds"... Unpretentiously put: kiddy CBMs. I for one am glad it's the way it is, but to each his own. Apocalypse was very formulaic, The Gifted is yet another "people with fantastic abilities that are on the run because they're being hunted down or captured" TV soap - only thing that separates it from the rest is that it has X-Men characters, The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine are extremely "kiddy" to the point where you might as well have cartoon sound effects here and there( I think they're actually were a few in that cringe inducing boxing bout between Wolverine and Blob). First Class, The Wolverine and Days of Future Past were very good but were not daring or innovative. Logan, Deadpool, and Legion are really the only installments of the Fox-Men franchise that brought anything unique or interesting to the table.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 20:35:13 GMT
Hell no! If the X - Men were bought by freaking Disney, then we wouldn't get awesome rated R shit like Logan or Deadpool. Plus , X-Men DOFP would have been so watered down too.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 9, 2017 20:37:53 GMT
simple: Fox-men would be a bunch of formulaic PG-13 movies without allegoric messages, but littered with random funny jokes and "natural dialogue" such as "I have famously huge turds"... Unpretentiously put: kiddy CBMs. I for one am glad it's the way it is, but to each his own. Apocalypse was very formulaic, The Gifted is yet another "people with fantastic abilities that are on the run because they're being hunted down or captured" TV soap - only that separates it from the rest is that it has X-Men characters, The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine are extremely "kiddy" to the point where you might as well have cartoon sound effects here and there( I think they're actually were a few in that cringe inducing boxing bout between Wolverine and Blob). First Class, The Wolverine and Days of Future Past were very good but were not daring or innovative. Logan, Deadpool, and Legion are really the only installments of the Fox-Men franchise that brought anything unique or interesting to the table. I wouldn't even disagree too much here, not seen Legion and Gifted yet (too much gold to be found in the golden age of TV). I just believe that the Fox-Men elements I respect most would simply not exist under the MCU mantle. I am all for a final IP swap transaction: when Fox has run out of ideas, they should return Fox-Men to Marvel in return for the current MCU-IP. I would really like to see a Logan-ized Iron Man swan song...bet RDJ would do it for free and would donate his left testicle for such a magnificent exit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 20:55:03 GMT
It's nice to see that the vast majority of posters here are sane and say either "no" or "not now."
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 9, 2017 22:48:09 GMT
Apocalypse was very formulaic It was less formulaic and more like trying to be a time loop time travel story. The problem was that they didn't mention the time looping. And that's not an interpretation.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 9, 2017 23:21:55 GMT
Hell no! If the X - Men were bought by freaking Disney, then we wouldn't get awesome rated R shit like Logan or Deadpool. Plus , X-Men DOFP would have been so watered down too. This guy gets it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 10, 2017 0:30:44 GMT
Ah, typical FoX-Fan pretentiousness.... where would we be without it? simple: Fox-men would be a bunch of formulaic PG-13 movies Which they are, for the most part. Exploiting the Holocaust is one of the cheapest ways to get a message across, so the movies are better off NOT doing that anymore.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 10, 2017 1:43:53 GMT
simple: Fox-men would be a bunch of formulaic PG-13 movies Which they are, for the most part. Exploiting the Holocaust is one of the cheapest ways to get a message across, so the movies are better off NOT doing that anymore. Word search!!!1
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 10, 2017 12:35:23 GMT
No. The X-Men universe has been very hit or miss, but I want it to continue to have a separate feel from the Avengers movies. That's the way it was in the comics (at least when I was a kid, I hope it isn't completely homogenized now), that's the way it should be in the movies.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 10, 2017 12:42:14 GMT
No. The X-Men universe has been very hit or miss, but I want it to continue to have a separate feel from the Avengers movies. That's the way it was in the comics (at least when I was a kid, I hope it isn't completely homogenized now), that's the way it should be in the movies. I might as well point out that there have been plenty of times the X-Men WEREN'T feared and hated and were treated like normal heroes in the comics. Chris Claremont wrote them like that too.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 10, 2017 13:18:44 GMT
No. The X-Men universe has been very hit or miss, but I want it to continue to have a separate feel from the Avengers movies. That's the way it was in the comics (at least when I was a kid, I hope it isn't completely homogenized now), that's the way it should be in the movies. I might as well point out that there have been plenty of times the X-Men WEREN'T feared and hated and were treated like normal heroes in the comics. Chris Claremont wrote them like that too. It isn't only about being feared and hated (which Civil War also explored a bit in the MCU), it's about the character dynamic, the general perspective of the book felt different because the circumstances were different for those characters. Honestly I was partial to the Avengers because that perspective appealed more to me. Elite warriors who choose to protect the world as their full time job. In comparison the X-Men seemed like whiny brats who always fought amongst themselves and whose worst enemies always seemed to be their own clones, children from another timeline, long lost family members from space or evil twins. The stories could have epic scale but always felt insular somehow. I was never a huge X-Men fan, but I respected the fact that their comics had a different feel from Avengers or Spider-Man. It's the same reason I wouldn't want the Netflix heroes interacting with the MCU Avengers too much. (My kingdom for a cameo perhaps, but Daredevil doesn't belong next to Iron Man, making wisecracks for two hours.) Not to mention the MCU X-Men would just be 20 more characters the studio would try to cram into the next event movie. Let the characters have their own personalities and their own stories, separate from each other.
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Post by miike80 on Oct 10, 2017 13:59:50 GMT
No X-men in the MCU please
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 10, 2017 14:09:12 GMT
No X-men in the MCU please Boom. Another vote for sanity.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 10, 2017 14:19:18 GMT
No X-men in the MCU please Why? And don't say "The tone is too different".
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Post by miike80 on Oct 10, 2017 14:22:45 GMT
Because i like them as they are( well, some of them , not X3, Wolverine Origins or Apocalypse) What's wrong with having different tones for different franchises?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 10, 2017 14:29:20 GMT
No X-men in the MCU please Why? And don't say "The tone is too different". Because of your word search. Innit?
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Post by charzhino on Oct 10, 2017 14:44:52 GMT
No X-men in the MCU please Why? And don't say "The tone is too different". X-Men is too mature for Disney.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 10, 2017 14:48:44 GMT
Why? And don't say "The tone is too different". X-Men is too mature for Disney. No, just too pretentious. For one thing, Disney would have the X-Men not be a bunch of incompetents and start actually SUCCEEDING in making things better between humans and mutants. And they wouldn't be afraid to show that Humans are in very real danger from mutants either and both "sides" have to own up to their failings.
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