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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 10, 2017 0:29:21 GMT
I didn't know GOTG2 had any deficiencies. And why are you anticipating a film suffering anything? Aren't you just excited for it? I know I am. It's really weird to me that this is your train of thought. Honestly I don't see what problem you had with TDW. Instead of really hoping for things you individually want in the movie, why don't you realize that they didn't make the film specifically for you, and just enjoy that they've done a great job making them? Gotg2 is far from perfect and has deficiencies like every other MCU/comic book movie. My train of thought is I want them to address their problems and make better films. IE, drop all humor and make the leads all grim bitter crazy men who can't do anything but scowl as they run around a "Galaxy that hates and fears them". |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 10, 2017 2:25:10 GMT
Gotg2 is far from perfect and has deficiencies like every other MCU/comic book movie. My train of thought is I want them to address their problems and make better films. IE, drop all humor and make the leads all grim bitter crazy men who can't do anything but scowl as they run around a "Galaxy that hates and fears them". IE, did you complete your word search? |
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Post by charzhino on Oct 10, 2017 10:43:32 GMT
Gotg2 is far from perfect and has deficiencies like every other MCU/comic book movie. My train of thought is I want them to address their problems and make better films. IE, drop all humor and make the leads all grim bitter crazy men who can't do anything but scowl as they run around a "Galaxy that hates and fears them". Nah, just stick to the tone the film is trying to establish. Xmen universe hates mutants so the tone should be serious. I can forgive GotG films a little because they obviously are intended to be straight comedies like Deadpool. But when supposedly serious films like Age of Ultron end up a joke, it gets lame because MCU wont take a risk in change of tone. AoU is basically Avengers 1 lite. When the 1st trailer dropped everyone including me was excited and fascinated by the darker approach given to Ultron and how it could have been thematically more mysterious and grimer compared with its predecessor. But no, we end up with a rubbish comedy film that Joss Whedon admits wasn't his true objective and critics/fans labelling Ultron himself a disappointment. And this can be said for many others like Ironman 3, Dr Strange etc. Marvel dont take risks. The only real risks theyve taken is Winter Soldier. Every other film is the same tonally, which is why people feel every new Marvel film that comes out is the same as the last one. All feature wisecracking quippy white male leads that are indistinguishable. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 10, 2017 10:48:14 GMT
IE, drop all humor and make the leads all grim bitter crazy men who can't do anything but scowl as they run around a "Galaxy that hates and fears them". Nah, just stick to the tone the film is trying to establish. Xmen universe hates mutants so the tone should be serious. No, they hate mutants because Xavier is an utter incompetent who believes in segregation. If they were expecting them to kill off the cast and destroy the world maybe. At least Ultron wasn't forgotten the way X-Men forgot about the Cerebro attack. IM3 had an important message about how people can be made so easily to blame "the foreigner" for their problems instead of seeing the problems in their own society and Tony dealing with PTSD in a progressive way by fighting it. The hero was willing to remain trapped in a time loop for eternity to battle a Demon God to save Humanity. If that isn't heroic or inventive I don't know what is. The only time I hear that anymore is when I hear people saying they should kill off everyone, which is a stupid idea. As for "white leads", they're being true to the comics. If they changed that then you'd just be complaining MCU was going all "SJW" so it's a no-win scenario. So they put in the extra effort to make the movies feel like they're in the same world. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 10, 2017 14:08:34 GMT
Nah, just stick to the tone the film is trying to establish. Xmen universe hates mutants so the tone should be serious. No, they hate mutants because Xavier is an utter incompetent who believes in segregation. If they were expecting them to kill off the cast and destroy the world maybe. At least Ultron wasn't forgotten the way X-Men forgot about the Cerebro attack. IM3 had an important message about how people can be made so easily to blame "the foreigner" for their problems instead of seeing the problems in their own society and Tony dealing with PTSD in a progressive way by fighting it. The hero was willing to remain trapped in a time loop for eternity to battle a Demon God to save Humanity. If that isn't heroic or inventive I don't know what is. The only time I hear that anymore is when I hear people saying they should kill off everyone, which is a stupid idea. As for "white leads", they're being true to the comics. If they changed that then you'd just be complaining MCU was going all "SJW" so it's a no-win scenario. So they put in the extra effort to make the movies feel like they're in the same world. Word. Search. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:10:31 GMT
Watch the damn movie before you say stuff like this. Even in WWI when the soldiers were being shelled day in and day out they found time to joke about stuff, it's just what people do. Yeah, i keep hearing that excuse. highly doubt they joked it the middle of the fight.What did he say so wrong? the most frequent quality mentioned my those reviewers is that it's soooo funny. I suppose you'll only be happy if all superheroes spend their time looking like this    |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 10, 2017 22:03:31 GMT
Yeah, i keep hearing that excuse. highly doubt they joked it the middle of the fight.What did he say so wrong? the most frequent quality mentioned my those reviewers is that it's soooo funny. I suppose you'll only be happy if all superheroes spend their time looking like this Badass pics, mang. Glad to see you're coming around to appreciating the DCEU's differences. I'm proud of you. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 22:44:27 GMT
I suppose you'll only be happy if all superheroes spend their time looking like this Badass pics, mang. Glad to see you're coming around to appreciating the DCEU's differences. I'm proud of you. The DCEU can eat a dick. Only Wonder Woman was good, and that film was only halfway decent. These images should be the last thing anyone ever pictures when imagining Superman. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 10, 2017 22:59:33 GMT
Badass pics, mang. Glad to see you're coming around to appreciating the DCEU's differences. I'm proud of you. The DCEU can eat a dick. Only Wonder Woman was good, and that film was only halfway decent. These images should be the last thing anyone ever pictures when imagining Superman. "oh." |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 23:01:29 GMT
The DCEU can eat a dick. Only Wonder Woman was good, and that film was only halfway decent. These images should be the last thing anyone ever pictures when imagining Superman. "oh." I want you to answer this next question seriously. Is the above REALLY how you would want people to imagine Superman when they think of him? |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 10, 2017 23:15:45 GMT
I want you to answer this next question seriously. Is the above REALLY how you would want people to imagine Superman when they think of him? Among other versions/visions for him, sure. But, I mean, this is one of my all-time favorite issues of any comic:  I thought that issue was sick and the story worked. Meanwhile, I spent countless shameful hours watching this incarnation of Superman many moons ago:  I don't think one is necessarily better than the other* or that even if one were better, it should be the only way to depict the character. Superman is a timeless character whose depiction has changed over time and will change again. I'm fine with DCEU Superman. (*for the record, the Superman on the cover of Batman #612 is way better than lameass Dean Cain, specifically. I was just using them as examples to make a point.) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 23:25:20 GMT
I want you to answer this next question seriously. Is the above REALLY how you would want people to imagine Superman when they think of him? Among other versions/visions for him, sure. But, I mean, this is one of my all-time favorite issues of any comic: I thought that issue was sick and the story worked. Meanwhile, I spent countless shameful hours watching this incarnation of Superman many moons ago: I don't think one is necessarily better than the other* or that even if one were better, it should be the only way to depict the character. Superman is a timeless character whose depiction has changed over time and will change again. I'm fine with DCEU Superman.(*for the record, the Superman on the cover of Batman #612 is way better than lameass Dean Cain, specifically. I was just using them as examples to make a point.) I can only react with bafflement at someone being fine with the DCEU Superman. You're fine with a Superman that never smiles, doesn't really want to help anyone, and runs around being as threatening, unwelcoming, and ominous as possible? For the record, I've also read Batman #612 and its a million times better than anything the DCEU has produced so far. I've overheard a niece whose first experience with Superman IS the DCEU, and she hates him because of how frightening he is. Superman shouldn't frighten children. |
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