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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 16, 2017 5:59:51 GMT
I seldom see many mcu fans here repay that same courtesy towards non mcu films. Quite the opposite actually. When people say there's a Marvel vs DC war or a MCU vs DCEU war, that's not quite accurate. It's actually an MCU vs DC and Fox and Sony war. MCU fans hate anything that's non-MCU. That includes not only the DCEU movies but also the X-Men and Fantastic Four movies. I'm seriously not supposed to give my opinion of the mcu formula? The movies are aimed at kids. They are very formulaic. They have made a lot of money. Egg McMuffins are very popular as well like mcu movies but also lacking in true quality like mcu movies. Perfect analogy. The mods claim they are not wanting to turn this into a mcu love fest so why do you keep trying to have me censored? I'm not doing that to you. That's typical of MCU fans here. They throw a hissy fit if anyone dares to have a negative opinion about MCU. Wrong, not all MCU fans hate Fox, DC, and Sony movies. I for one like some DC/Fox/Sony movies, even love some of them like TDK/DOFP/Spider-Man 2, and hate some of them like BvS/Fant4stic/TASM2. You on the other hand put your hate glasses every time you watch a MCU movie. I think you have a problem with MCU simply because it has fans.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 16, 2017 6:03:58 GMT
Yeah I don't think we really need a post where the implication is that people who like Marvel's summer popcorn blockbusters must be some depraved pervert who likes small children. Huh? I don't see where he implies that. He doesn't say that people who like MCU movies must be depraved perverts who like small children. He says that people who like MCU movies ARE children.
"KF does know how to please his target audience." "The movies are aimed at kids."
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Post by scabab on Oct 16, 2017 6:08:30 GMT
Yeah I don't think we really need a post where the implication is that people who like Marvel's summer popcorn blockbusters must be some depraved pervert who likes small children. Huh? I don't see where he implies that. He doesn't say that people who like MCU movies must be depraved perverts who like small children. He says that people who like MCU movies ARE children.
"KF does know how to please his target audience." "The movies are aimed at kids."
That's because I removed it from his post as well as the posts that quoted it. He implied that people who like these movies are either little kids or adults who like being around them. It's fine to have an opinion, whether it be positive or negative but implying that people are paedophiles just for enjoying light hearted superhero movies is not ok.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 16, 2017 6:13:49 GMT
Yeah I don't think we really need a post where the implication is that people who like Marvel's summer popcorn blockbusters must be some depraved pervert who likes small children. Huh? I don't see where he implies that. He doesn't say that people who like MCU movies must be depraved perverts who like small children. He says that people who like MCU movies ARE children.
"KF does know how to please his target audience." "The movies are aimed at kids."
Also not correct. Go to any MCU movie at the theater, and you'll see nearly all the seats are filled with adults. Of course children are also in the theater, but so are parents, teenagers, young adults, etc. The MCU general audiences is diverse of everyone of all ages, and Marvel knows that. That's why their movies are such successes at the box office. And no, the adults are not there to touch children, they're there to enjoy a good movie.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 16, 2017 6:46:22 GMT
Huh? I don't see where he implies that. He doesn't say that people who like MCU movies must be depraved perverts who like small children. He says that people who like MCU movies ARE children.
"KF does know how to please his target audience." "The movies are aimed at kids."
That's because I removed it from his post as well as the posts that quoted it. He implied that people who like these movies are either little kids or adults who like being around them. It's fine to have an opinion, whether it be positive or negative but implying that people are paedophiles just for enjoying light hearted superhero movies is not ok. People who like those movies are indeed little kids or the adults who have to take them to see those movies i.e. their parents, older brothers and sisters, UNCLES etc... (the aforementioned people who like being around them) or adults with "childlike tastes" for lack of a better way to describe their tastes. I have 2 nieces I adore and have sat through many painful shows and movies because that's what they want to watch and I like being around them so I grin and bear it. No one watches those awful Barbie animated shows for example unless they REALLY enjoy hanging out with the kids watching them believe me. Usually my nieces just want the movie or show running while I play with them which makes zero sense but what's a loving Uncle to do, right? Often they never even glance at the screen. In other older threads I have admittedly wondered about the intentions of childless adults that lurk about theaters showing children's movies but I have ALWAYS referred to those oddballs as CREEPY adults without fail. I still question the intentions of single guys who see these movies dozens of times in the theater. I didn't do that here as that was not what I was implying. I understand you are growing into your new mod job so I won't make a big deal out of your censorship at this time but I hope I won't be forced to agonize over every word before I type it for fear of upsetting raptor who seems to be dissecting every post I make in the hopes of having my views stomped out. How are you enjoying your new mod job by the way? Is it as fun as you had hoped?
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Post by poelzig on Oct 16, 2017 7:02:02 GMT
Huh? I was praising Feige. He was being gracious and I wondered why some mcu fans don't follow his lead. Obviously there is animosity here or mods wouldn't be needed, correct? If more fans followed his lead we wouldn't need mods. I have stated numerous times there are mcu films I like. I seldom see many mcu fans here repay that same courtesy towards non mcu films. Quite the opposite actually. I'm seriously not supposed to give my opinion of the mcu formula? The movies are aimed at kids. They are very formulaic. They have made a lot of money. Egg McMuffins are very popular as well like mcu movies but also lacking in true quality like mcu movies. The mods claim they are not wanting to turn this into a mcu love fest so why do you keep trying to have me censored? I'm not doing that to you. This is what Scabab said to you in the post below: "Yeah I don't think we really need a post where the implication is that people who like Marvel's summer popcorn blockbusters must be some depraved pervert who likes small children." Take the hint. It's disturbing that certain posters here think the only reason an adult would take a child to see a cartoon or kiddie movie like the mcu films are doing so for nefarious reasons. How do y'all think kids get to the theater or pay for it? Their mom or dad or uncle or aunt or grandma etc... take them guys. Kids are people too and many of them are quite intelligent and fun to spend time with. Do none of you have nieces or nephews or younger cousins or brothers and sisters or even friends who have children? I know people who are uncomfortable around kids and have no clue how to interact with them. I feel sorry for adults like that. It's really quite simple. Just talk to them and don't condescend. Hell the fact you're on these boards mean you like cartoon characters so right there is a common interest with many kids. Also get your minds out of the sewer.
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Post by scabab on Oct 16, 2017 7:19:18 GMT
That's because I removed it from his post as well as the posts that quoted it. He implied that people who like these movies are either little kids or adults who like being around them. It's fine to have an opinion, whether it be positive or negative but implying that people are paedophiles just for enjoying light hearted superhero movies is not ok. People who like those movies are indeed little kids or the adults who have to take them to see those movies i.e. their parents, older brothers and sisters, UNCLES etc... (the aforementioned people who like being around them) or adults with "childlike tastes" for lack of a better way to describe their tastes. I have 2 nieces I adore and have sat through many painful shows and movies because that's what they want to watch and I like being around them so I grin and bear it. No one watches those awful Barbie animated shows for example unless they REALLY enjoy hanging out with the kids watching them believe me. Usually my nieces just want the movie or show running while I play with them which makes zero sense but what's a loving Uncle to do, right? Often they never even glance at the screen. In other older threads I have admittedly wondered about the intentions of childless adults that lurk about theaters showing children's movies but I have ALWAYS referred to those oddballs as CREEPY adults without fail. I still question the intentions of single guys who see these movies dozens of times in the theater. I didn't do that here as that was not what I was implying. I understand you are growing into your new mod job so I won't make a big deal out of your censorship at this time but I hope I won't be forced to agonize over every word before I type it for fear of upsetting raptor who seems to be dissecting every post I make in the hopes of having my views stomped out. How are you enjoying your new mod job by the way? Is it as fun as you had hoped? An adult watching a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie is not the same as an adult watching a Barbie animated movie. These Marvel movies are not children's movies. They are movies that can be enjoyed by people of all ages just like Star Wars or Harry Potter or Jurassic Park which are also the biggest series around. There's nothing weird about these people going to see these movies. I'm 27 and I've seen almost all of these movies with my 25 year old girlfriend. When we see these movies we see all manner of people, including grown men with their adult wives, a group of friends in their 20's, old couples who could be in their 70's or 80's and yes parents with children. I've never gone to see one of those movies where the amount of adults hasn't far outweighed the amount of children. As for the mod role, it's going good. I wouldn't say it's fun, fun was what I had before when I could just post when I wanted to in peace. That's gone now. Now I'm just going to get constant shit for everything that I do or don't do and all the while these same people will be completely unaware of what personal insults have been thrown their way by other users because I'll have already have taken them out so they never had to find out or get into any argument at all. But that's fine with me, I will gladly be a scapegoat if it means these boards can be enjoyable for others.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 16, 2017 7:51:22 GMT
People who like those movies are indeed little kids or the adults who have to take them to see those movies i.e. their parents, older brothers and sisters, UNCLES etc... (the aforementioned people who like being around them) or adults with "childlike tastes" for lack of a better way to describe their tastes. I have 2 nieces I adore and have sat through many painful shows and movies because that's what they want to watch and I like being around them so I grin and bear it. No one watches those awful Barbie animated shows for example unless they REALLY enjoy hanging out with the kids watching them believe me. Usually my nieces just want the movie or show running while I play with them which makes zero sense but what's a loving Uncle to do, right? Often they never even glance at the screen. In other older threads I have admittedly wondered about the intentions of childless adults that lurk about theaters showing children's movies but I have ALWAYS referred to those oddballs as CREEPY adults without fail. I still question the intentions of single guys who see these movies dozens of times in the theater. I didn't do that here as that was not what I was implying. I understand you are growing into your new mod job so I won't make a big deal out of your censorship at this time but I hope I won't be forced to agonize over every word before I type it for fear of upsetting raptor who seems to be dissecting every post I make in the hopes of having my views stomped out. How are you enjoying your new mod job by the way? Is it as fun as you had hoped? An adult watching a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie is not the same as an adult watching a Barbie animated movie. These Marvel movies are not children's movies. They are movies that can be enjoyed by people of all ages just like Star Wars or Harry Potter or Jurassic Park which are also the biggest series around. There's nothing weird about these people going to see these movies. I'm 27 and I've seen almost all of these movies with my 25 year old girlfriend. When we see these movies we see all manner of people, including grown men with their adult wives, a group of friends in their 20's, old couples who could be in their 70's or 80's and yes parents with children. I've never gone to see one of those movies where the amount of adults hasn't far outweighed the amount of children. As for the mod role, it's going good. I wouldn't say it's fun, fun was what I had before when I could just post when I wanted to in peace. That's gone now. Now I'm just going to get constant shit for everything that I do or don't do and all the while these same people will be completely unaware of what personal insults have been thrown their way by other users because I'll have already have taken them out so they never had to find out or get into any argument at all. But that's fine with me, I will gladly be a scapegoat if it means these boards can be enjoyable for others. I never said the theater was just kids and parents. I never said there was anything wrong or weird with adults going to watch mcu movies. In fact I have repeatedly said I watched mcu movies Kids are definitely a huge target for the mcu movies as well as the series you mentioned though. DISNEY is a company that caters to "kids and the kid in all of us". Are you really not aware of that? Take a breath and don't be so defensive scabab. Most of all stop letting posters like raptor influence the way you interpret posts. In my reply I said I watched movies my nieces wanted to watch because I love my nieces. You seem to have missed my point entirely and leaped right to thinking I was insulting mcu fans. Just because movies are aimed at kids doesn't mean they are bad. Batman: The Animated Series is my favorite interpretation of the character. It's one of my favorite TV shows regardless of genre. Guess what? It's aimed at kids. If someone points that out or sneers at any of the numerous animated shows I watch regularly I don't leap on the defensive and say "Nuh uh! Mostly adults watch that. You're mean" I just punch them in the throat. Just kidding.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 16, 2017 9:19:18 GMT
Really . It requires some special degree of insidious fanboy obtuseness to pervert a compliment into starting a flame war and getting some attention.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 16, 2017 10:50:55 GMT
I'm seriously not supposed to give my opinion of the mcu formula? There is no MCU formula, no one who says there is has ever been able to define it. All they have is success. Like Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who, Lord of the Rings and numerous other series.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 16, 2017 10:53:12 GMT
People who like those movies are indeed All-Ages, like the audiences for Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who, Lord of the Rings and numerous other series that can be appreciated by all ages instead of pretentious nonsense that try to justify themselves by saying "It's for adults only!" because the writers were too incompetent to tell a story all could enjoy.
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Post by charzhino on Oct 16, 2017 13:12:35 GMT
There is no MCU formula, no one who says there is has ever been able to define it. All they have is success. There is, you and other MCU fanatics just want to ignore it. There was a whole thread on this topic a while back where it was broken down in detail.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 15:19:03 GMT
There is no MCU formula, no one who says there is has ever been able to define it. All they have is success. There is, you and other MCU fanatics just want to ignore it. There was a whole thread on this topic a while back where it was broken down in detail. One of my better threads I must say.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 16, 2017 15:51:27 GMT
People who like those movies are indeed All-Ages, like the audiences for Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who, Lord of the Rings and numerous other series that can be appreciated by all ages instead of pretentious nonsense that try to justify themselves by saying "It's for adults only!" because the writers were too incompetent to tell a story all could enjoy. you are in luck, our all beloved Dutch Panther mod made a great thread on this with a lot of posts:
imdb2.freeforums.net/post/534152/thread
And would you know, I myself made a detailed repsonse (the best) regarding formula elements plus provided articles on this subject. Enjoy and learn:
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 16, 2017 16:43:06 GMT
Yeah I don't think we really need a post where the implication is that people who like Marvel's summer popcorn blockbusters must be some depraved pervert who likes small children. Huh? I don't see where he implies that. He doesn't say that people who like MCU movies must be depraved perverts who like small children. He says that people who like MCU movies ARE children.
"KF does know how to please his target audience." "The movies are aimed at kids."
Really? Is that why @zackbop made a thread suggesting that all Marvel fans are perverts and sexual predators? And then you even said that Marvel endorses pedophiles
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 17:47:42 GMT
There is no MCU formula, no one who says there is has ever been able to define it. All they have is success. There is, you and other MCU fanatics just want to ignore it. There was a whole thread on this topic a while back where it was broken down in detail. Except it wasn't. That "broken down in detail" was just you haters making broad generalizations.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 16, 2017 17:52:29 GMT
There is, you and other MCU fanatics just want to ignore it. There was a whole thread on this topic a while back where it was broken down in detail. Except it wasn't. That "broken down in detail" was just you haters making broad generalizations. Pretty much, the whole "Hero's Journey" argument is all broad generalization. The Hero's Journey story is the basics of telling an origin story. How else can you tell the origins of a new hero?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 17:55:50 GMT
Except it wasn't. That "broken down in detail" was just you haters making broad generalizations. Pretty much, the whole "Hero's Journey" argument is all broad generalization. The Hero's Journey story is the basics of telling an origin story. How else can you tell the origins of a new hero? Exactly. But I have to love the hypocrisy of these MCU haters. They whine about how derivative the MCU is while ignoring the fact that X-Men films have just been recycling the X-Men 2 script since 2003. And they love to ignore that the DCEU is still on the rocky straits despite Wonder Woman. The only superhero joint in town that's on stable ground is the MCU.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 16, 2017 18:00:13 GMT
Pretty much, the whole "Hero's Journey" argument is all broad generalization. The Hero's Journey story is the basics of telling an origin story. How else can you tell the origins of a new hero? Exactly. But I have to love the hypocrisy of these MCU haters. They whine about how derivative the MCU is while ignoring the fact that X-Men films have just been recycling the X-Men 2 script since 2003. And they love to ignore that the DCEU is still on the rocky straits despite Wonder Woman. The only superhero joint in town that's on stable ground is the MCU. Yup, and charzhino basically says it's a good thing that X-Men brings new and fresh to the table. Bull. Fucking. Shit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 18:04:09 GMT
Exactly. But I have to love the hypocrisy of these MCU haters. They whine about how derivative the MCU is while ignoring the fact that X-Men films have just been recycling the X-Men 2 script since 2003. And they love to ignore that the DCEU is still on the rocky straits despite Wonder Woman. The only superhero joint in town that's on stable ground is the MCU. Yup, and charzhino basically says it's a good thing that X-Men brings new and fresh to the table. Bull. Fucking. Shit. What fresh and new? Recasting because they screwed over everyone who wasn't Huck Jackson, Patrick Stewart, or Ian McKellan and couldn't make it worth their time to come back for more than a cameo at the end of The Dull of Future Past?
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