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Post by mykel on Nov 6, 2017 13:37:10 GMT
Steve and Dustin are probably my favorite characters, so I'm glad they stuck them together. I also liked the addition of Max, who even managed to make Lucas likable. I don't think I care much for the rest of the cast, or at least how they were handled this season. This.
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Post by kuatorises on Nov 6, 2017 15:30:46 GMT
Just finished, and I love it. Never thought I'd end up liking Steve's character this much, and the soundtrack is even better than season 1. And yes, Billy's cool. That scene with Karen lol. Billy's not cool, he's an asshole and a budding psychopath. Great villain, but he's not cool. The way he offers tips to Steve while simultaneously hating him is brilliant. I would absolutely love to see more of him next season. A guy like that would not be able to let things go. The scene with Karen was hilarious. I never thought I would like Steve either. Christ, you hate him pretty much the entire first season until he shows up with that bat. Now we all love him. He is kind of like Sawyer from Lost.
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Post by kuatorises on Nov 6, 2017 16:03:26 GMT
Episode 7 wasn't pointless, it was a mixture of "training" 11 and setting up a potential season 3 storyline with that gang and 8 maybe taking the lead and with there even being an 8, that leaves potentially 9 other "special" kids out there as well, plus it is possible, with what we're told in the episode, that Papa is still alive (i don't see how, but it's TV so anything could happen) So while it may not be everyone's favourite episode, it definitely wasn't pointless, as it laid a lot of groundwork for a potential season 3 Could it have been better or like others have said, spread out over the season? i would say i can see how that would have been better and maybe have more of an impact, but at the same time, it might prove distracting if they kept cutting to that plot every episode, which i think would have gone down even less well with some people, so with that in mind, i am happy enough with how they did it, even if it wasn't the best episode It was pointless because there are countless ways they could've had Eleven learn to harness her powers within the context of the actual story. It was a backdoor pilot for a storyline I have no interest in if they decide to explore it further in season 3. It was a lame stunt that was tonally jarring and could not have come at a worse time in the overall narrative of the show.
As I said earlier, they could've blended that story into the season more naturally or at least move that plot line up to an earlier point in the show (particularly since that's how they chose to open the season). Waiting for all hell to break loose with the rest of the cast in peril is the worst imaginable time to have a character go on a random side mission featuring characters the audience does not care about in the least.
The plot thread was so terrible that you may be right-- putting it into a single episode (thus making it easier to skip upon subsequent viewings) may indeed be preferable to having it interrupt three or four episodes. But that hardly makes it a good idea to include it in the first place. When the show becomes the hack actor X-Men saga of Netflix I'll stop watching; until then allow me to enjoy the current storyline for what it is.
You are confusing pointless with "I don't like."
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 6, 2017 16:21:08 GMT
It was pointless because there are countless ways they could've had Eleven learn to harness her powers within the context of the actual story. It was a backdoor pilot for a storyline I have no interest in if they decide to explore it further in season 3. It was a lame stunt that was tonally jarring and could not have come at a worse time in the overall narrative of the show.
As I said earlier, they could've blended that story into the season more naturally or at least move that plot line up to an earlier point in the show (particularly since that's how they chose to open the season). Waiting for all hell to break loose with the rest of the cast in peril is the worst imaginable time to have a character go on a random side mission featuring characters the audience does not care about in the least.
The plot thread was so terrible that you may be right-- putting it into a single episode (thus making it easier to skip upon subsequent viewings) may indeed be preferable to having it interrupt three or four episodes. But that hardly makes it a good idea to include it in the first place. When the show becomes the hack actor X-Men saga of Netflix I'll stop watching; until then allow me to enjoy the current storyline for what it is.
You are confusing pointless with "I don't like." You are confusing what I think is pointless. There are many ways to work that story into the narrative of the show without taking a detour from the rest of the cast for an entire episode. Eleven needed depth for sure. We did not need an entire episode dedicated to this odd side mission at a crucial point in the overall narrative. So providing a deeper backstory for Eleven was not pointless; devoting an entire episode to it, devoid of the rest of the cast in episode 7 of 9, was pointless.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 6, 2017 16:41:52 GMT
Season 2 is not even half as good as some people claim it is. I liked it, but I didn't think it was as good as the first season. I kind of got the vibe of them wanting to rewrite the first season without making that too obvious. The same threat more or less, coming from the same location, even taking over the same character. For the next season, they need to do something significantly different in my opinion.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 6, 2017 16:44:45 GMT
Season two was fantastic, though episode 7 was completely pointless. They could've found another way for Eleven to learn how to focus. At the very least sprinkle that storyline in throughout the season (especially if you're going to lead off with it!), don't wait until 7 of 9 episodes to go whole hog on this poor man's X-Men nonsense. Other than that it was as spectacular as season one in every way. Enjoyed all the new characters (though I really expected a turn from Billy at some point) as well as the expansion of the existing ones. I liked that episode, and the very start of the season, because at least it was something different. Different characters, a different setting, a different sort of focus. Over the seasons, the story needs to evolve and shift focus a bit, or it could start to get boring. That's a problem with the Walking Dead. I like that show overall, but there's too much of more or less the same problems among the same people, in the same settings, from season to season. Of course, you don't want to change things too radically--you don't want to lose what makes the show work, but there needs to be some variety.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 6, 2017 16:47:57 GMT
Steve and Dustin are probably my favorite characters, so I'm glad they stuck them together. I also liked the addition of Max, who even managed to make Lucas likable. I don't think I care much for the rest of the cast, or at least how they were handled this season. Yeah, that pairing turned out to be gold. They need more of it next season. I'm glad that they have seemed to up the humor quotient a bit as the episodes have gone on. More sarcastic and dark comedy is always good in my book.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 6, 2017 16:50:41 GMT
I wish they'd start moving Eleven/Jane away from being super moody all the time, especially as it was starting to turn into her being kind of bitchy instead. They need to develop other facets of her personality more next season.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 6, 2017 16:51:20 GMT
Season two was fantastic, though episode 7 was completely pointless. They could've found another way for Eleven to learn how to focus. At the very least sprinkle that storyline in throughout the season (especially if you're going to lead off with it!), don't wait until 7 of 9 episodes to go whole hog on this poor man's X-Men nonsense. Other than that it was as spectacular as season one in every way. Enjoyed all the new characters (though I really expected a turn from Billy at some point) as well as the expansion of the existing ones. I liked that episode, and the very start of the season, because at least it was something different. Different characters, a different setting, a different sort of focus. Over the seasons, the story needs to evolve and shift focus a bit, or it could start to get boring. That's a problem with the Walking Dead. I like that show overall, but there's too much of more or less the same problems among the same people, in the same settings, from season to season. Of course, you don't want to change things too radically--you don't want to lose what makes the show work, but there needs to be some variety. The timing was the issue for me. They start off the season with a few minutes with that character, then you're in Hawkins for 6 episodes. Then when the tension builds and all hell breaks loose with everyone in peril, they pull you away to unfamiliar characters for an entire episode when you know there are only two episodes to follow. I don't mind them floating new ideas but basically inserting a standalone episode into the final third of the season is a poor way to do it.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 6, 2017 16:54:02 GMT
I liked that episode, and the very start of the season, because at least it was something different. Different characters, a different setting, a different sort of focus. Over the seasons, the story needs to evolve and shift focus a bit, or it could start to get boring. That's a problem with the Walking Dead. I like that show overall, but there's too much of more or less the same problems among the same people, in the same settings, from season to season. Of course, you don't want to change things too radically--you don't want to lose what makes the show work, but there needs to be some variety. The timing was the issue for me. They start off the season with a few minutes with that character, then you're in Hawkins for 6 episodes. Then when the tension builds and all hell breaks loose with everyone in peril, they pull you away to unfamiliar characters for an entire episode when you know there are only two episodes to follow. I don't mind them floating new ideas but basically inserting a standalone episode into the final third of the season is a poor way to do it. Yeah, I can see that, and my complaint about that was more from the other end. After a couple episodes, I kept saying, "Wait--was was that beginning about? When are they going to get back to those characters?" It took them too long to get back to that. They should have done it earlier and then maybe worked in a way to get Eight/Kali to show up later in Hawkins, even if only temporarily (at least for now).
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Post by kuatorises on Nov 6, 2017 16:55:08 GMT
You are confusing pointless with "I don't like." You are confusing what I think is pointless. There are many ways to work that story into the narrative of the show without taking a detour from the rest of the cast for an entire episode. Eleven needed depth for sure. We did not need an entire episode dedicated to this odd side mission at a crucial point in the overall narrative. So providing a deeper backstory for Eleven was not pointless; devoting an entire episode to it, devoid of the rest of the cast in episode 7 of 9, was pointless. LOL, you're still wrong. You don't like the way that it was presented/resolved, but you're wrong in calling it pointless. It clearly served a purpose. Even you admit that you know what the purpose was.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 6, 2017 16:58:50 GMT
You are confusing what I think is pointless. There are many ways to work that story into the narrative of the show without taking a detour from the rest of the cast for an entire episode. Eleven needed depth for sure. We did not need an entire episode dedicated to this odd side mission at a crucial point in the overall narrative. So providing a deeper backstory for Eleven was not pointless; devoting an entire episode to it, devoid of the rest of the cast in episode 7 of 9, was pointless. LOL, you're still wrong. You don't like the way that it was presented/resolved, but you're wrong in calling it pointless. It clearly served a purpose. Even you admit that you know what the purpose was. You still don't understand what I'm saying. The way it was presented (an entire episode devoted to it in the final third of the season) was pointless. It was pointless to waste an entire episode on that plot line when they did. Stop LOLing and use your brain. I'm sure you can play board defender with the best of them, so I'm done here.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 6, 2017 17:02:19 GMT
You are confusing what I think is pointless. There are many ways to work that story into the narrative of the show without taking a detour from the rest of the cast for an entire episode. Eleven needed depth for sure. We did not need an entire episode dedicated to this odd side mission at a crucial point in the overall narrative. So providing a deeper backstory for Eleven was not pointless; devoting an entire episode to it, devoid of the rest of the cast in episode 7 of 9, was pointless. LOL, you're still wrong. You don't like the way that it was presented/resolved, but you're wrong in calling it pointless. It clearly served a purpose. Even you admit that you know what the purpose was. You're arguing for it being a fact whether something was "pointless" or not. That's not a factual matter. It's a matter of subjective opinion/interpretation.
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Post by chalk2 on Nov 6, 2017 17:09:02 GMT
I generally enjoyed it. Would have liked a few more episodes in the Season however. I find it odd to see comments complaining about 'the nostalgia'. The show is set in the 80's so what exactly does one expect to see.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Nov 6, 2017 20:37:01 GMT
Just finished, and I love it. Never thought I'd end up liking Steve's character this much, and the soundtrack is even better than season 1. And yes, Billy's cool. That scene with Karen lol. Billy's not cool, he's an asshole and a budding psychopath. Great villain, but he's not cool. The way he offers tips to Steve while simultaneously hating him is brilliant. I would absolutely love to see more of him next season. A guy like that would not be able to let things go. The scene with Karen was hilarious. I never thought I would like Steve either. Christ, you hate him pretty much the entire first season until he shows up with that bat. Now we all love him. He is kind of like Sawyer from Lost. i liked Steve in season 1
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Post by Marv on Nov 6, 2017 23:07:58 GMT
I generally enjoyed it. Would have liked a few more episodes in the Season however. I find it odd to see comments complaining about 'the nostalgia'. The show is set in the 80's so what exactly does one expect to see. Yea the nostalgia is kind of ingrained into the fabric of the show. It wears its inspirations on its sleeve. That's part of what many people love about it.
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Post by fantoma on Nov 6, 2017 23:53:13 GMT
They should have cancelled it before season 1 was over.
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Post by 5hole on Nov 7, 2017 4:49:42 GMT
#1 show in the nambla community
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Post by fantoma on Nov 7, 2017 12:13:24 GMT
One more reason why it should have been canceled
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Post by Marv on Nov 7, 2017 12:46:52 GMT
I watched some of the Beyond Stranger Things or whatever where they interview cast and crew. I gotta say one of the Duffers seems like kind of a douche. I'm not sure which one he is but he's always arguing with the kids and making sure they know his part of the story is total fact. Seems kind of petty and constantly defensive.
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