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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 26, 2017 16:09:27 GMT
But all they'll do is turn other characters into that character. Everyone has the same assenting or dissenting voice. They are either a variant of Xavier or Magneto. I dont see how different characters are just extensions of magneto and xavier. Logan, nightcrawler, quicksilver, scott, mistique in the recent films have had their own personalities and stances. I can see for someone like Hank McCoy that may be just an Xavier-lite but not for anyone else. If you want to talk clones of one another, then antman, starlord, thor (now) and stark are all slightly different shades of the same goofy, cocky, arrogant base personality shtick. The opening scene where people are straight up crushed and burnt alive. Wooden arrow impaling magnetos daughter and wife through the chest. Magneto slicing through the cops necks. Apocalypse decapitating the thugs heads with sand. Apocalypse leveling a fully populated Cairo. Apocalypse breaking Peters leg in a close up. Wolverines weapon X sequence is the most violent one seen before Logan. Even Angels transformation with the metal wings from his bones is gory and brutal. None of these would be in a family friendly Disney movie. At least Fox can give justice to Apocalypses brutal unforgiving nature in that regard and not hold back. What did Ultron do, slice off some guys arm in the most unrealistic manner ever. Xmen started with no vision of a larger extended universe so theres bound to be some recasts and inconsistent character portrayals. I dont see it as a big deal if its just some support minor characters like Jubilee or Caliban. MCU has the advantage of being started after studying other franchise universes' continuity errors. Invoking the box office numbers to show the quality of movies is not smart. If movie audiences were actually clued up then First Class shouldn't have made $200m less than freakin Antman. If one of them is gone then they just put someone else in that spot. Erik was not Magneto in First Class so they put Shaw in that spot even though his character is nothing like that in the comics. And not having a large cinematic universe is not an excuse. If you have faith in your product then you'll have that vision. They were just making movies with the same theme over and over again. You mean those nobodies? You know why I felt nothing when Erik's family died? Because they were there to die the moment they stepped on screen. All those deaths were as cartoon a death as in any other Marvel movie. The box office numbers show where the audience is. Look at the DCEU. They made money but the audience started speaking with their wallet on this recent one didn't they? Look at the 1st X-men movies. They made between 300-500 million until DoFP. Only DoFP and Deadpool made over 700 mil. I mean, X-men was suppose to be the most popular comics at the time, but Spider-man constantly beat them out. Imagine if they had a better director for the X-men movies... Ant-man made more than First Class because the MCU has way more goodwill. First Class came off of X-men Origins and X3. It's the same as Justice League coming off of BvS and Suicide Squad mainly. Wonder Woman wasn't enough to help it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 29, 2017 5:37:36 GMT
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Post by darkpast on Nov 29, 2017 5:46:21 GMT
Total Monopoly by Di$ney
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 29, 2017 16:40:27 GMT
What, it's okay for WB to own all of DC but Disney can't own all of Marvel?
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Post by darkpast on Nov 29, 2017 16:53:16 GMT
What, it's okay for WB to own all of DC but Disney can't own all of Marvel? Star Wars Marvel now w/ X-Men Lucasfilm Pixar Alien Die Hard Avatar Planet of The Apes Etc.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 5, 2017 18:17:09 GMT
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Post by King Conan on Dec 5, 2017 18:31:58 GMT
Bye bye Aliens, Deadpool, Die Hard and Predators. It was a good time.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 5, 2017 18:53:25 GMT
This deal is getting damn close apparently.
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Post by redpyramidthing on Dec 5, 2017 19:38:25 GMT
I'm not necessarily happy that Disney could become even bigger and more powerful, but if this happens I'm really curious to see if and how the MCU would change and I'd really, really, really, really, really like to see in a relatively short time proper versions of Doom, Galactus and Silver Surfer.
The general meltdown that could follow would be fun for a couple of minutes, then it would become annoying AF.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 5, 2017 19:40:43 GMT
I'm not necessarily happy that Disney could become even bigger and more powerful, but if this happens I'm really curious to see if and how the MCU would change and I'd really, really, really, really, really like to see in a relatively short time proper versions of Doom, Galactus and Silver Surfer. The general meltdown that could follow would be fun for a couple of minutes, then it would become annoying AF. What do you mean by general meltdown?
Also I fully, I'd love to see those characters, but considering there is already a plan in place for phase 4, how do you prioritize introducing them, do you think they'll scrap as much as they need to do so, do you see any of them fitting into current possible projects, and which characters do you think they'll wait on until further down the road?
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Post by harpospoke on Dec 5, 2017 19:56:35 GMT
Bye bye Aliens, Deadpool, Die Hard and Predators. It was a good time. Not sure why anyone would think Disney is not interested in making money. Deadpool was a massive money maker. disney.wikia.com/wiki/Category:R-rated_films
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 5, 2017 20:44:50 GMT
Bye bye Aliens, Deadpool, Die Hard and Predators. It was a good time. What were the last good Die Hard, Alien and Predator movies? And they were Rated R (besides one Die Hard movie).
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Post by redpyramidthing on Dec 5, 2017 21:00:22 GMT
What do you mean by general meltdown?
Also I fully, I'd love to see those characters, but considering there is already a plan in place for phase 4, how do you prioritize introducing them, do you think they'll scrap as much as they need to do so, do you see any of them fitting into current possible projects, and which characters do you think they'll wait on until further down the road?
If it happens it'd be a huge thing, so a lot of people would be pretty pissed off and while I do understand and respect the feelings of those who are very protective of their favourite movies (X-men), some trolls' antics would be very hilarious. For a very short while. I don't know, that's why I wrote if the MCU would change. At least in the short term. Plans can change and maybe, just maybe, some contingencies are already in place since you don't plan to buy Twentieth Century on a whim, but who knows? I'm not good at guessing and corporate thinking gives me headaches. I can only hope that they'd find a way to accomodate those rich characters since they want to explore the cosmic side of the Marvel universe. Doom would be just the cherry on the cake. I'd be really happy to see at least one movie with those (maybe each) before superheroes fatigue kicks in for good (of course personally speaking).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 21:22:52 GMT
Im confident that Marvel has a plan ready for a long time already in case the rights of F4 and X-men would come back. I wouldnt be surprised if they had like two or three plans for phase 4 ready to go. They havent anounced anything for that phase yet except SMH2 and GotG3. Im not worried at all. Excited actualy.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 5, 2017 21:53:45 GMT
Bye bye Aliens, Deadpool, Die Hard and Predators. It was a good time. Fox hasn't made a good Alien movie since 1992, and Predator since 2010. A for Deadpool....if it means getting a good and ungrounded X-Men series and the FF done right then it's worth Deadpool's sacrifice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 23:17:23 GMT
Deadpool won't be sacrified, don't worry. Even Disney isn't that dumb, to change anything. They are like other companies and want money. And Deadpool is a big money maker.
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Post by Hitman's Bodyguard on Dec 5, 2017 23:34:51 GMT
"Fox hasn't made a good Alien movie since 1992, and Predator since 2010."
That confused me now. Does Fox has made other Predator movies in secret, and nobody knows about? I know there will be a new one, coming 2018. But we don't have seen anything from the movie yet.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 6, 2017 2:07:53 GMT
"Fox hasn't made a good Alien movie since 1992, and Predator since 2010." That confused me now. Does Fox has made other Predator movies in secret, and nobody knows about? I know there will be a new one, coming 2018. But we don't have seen anything from the movie yet. www.imdb.com/title/tt1424381/
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Post by harpospoke on Dec 6, 2017 6:22:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 6:32:45 GMT
Ugh, I'd be really disappointed if this happens. Let Disney have the Fantastic Four and those characters like Doom, Galactus, and Surfer because they like Spider-Man I feel really belong there with the MCU but keep the X-Men separate. While I disagree with where they are taking the franchise at the moment I don't want everything to have the same MCU formula to them. It's nice to have the X-Men away from that. It also means I wouldn't be getting my Gambit movie that in itself is reason enough for me to be against this transaction. I love most of the MCU and for the most part love the Fox X-Men films. Just the idea that Disney and the MCU needs to control everything is a bit sickening. The only way I'd possibly get behind this if they made X-Men into a Netflix series where they can do things a little differently from the MCU movie formula. However trying to show off some of these X-Men's powers might be above the Netflix series pay grade so it might be horrible come to think of it.
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