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Post by scabab on Nov 8, 2017 17:54:42 GMT
And putting poelzig on Ignore doesn't solve the problem. He'll continue to insult everyone every chance he gets if left unchecked. He needs to be banned. And you constantly throw out back handed insults all the same. Other people will be having a disagreement and you will chime in with the usual "Says the person who..." or "This coming from the guy who..." It didn't involve you but then you make these comments and then they retaliate and then it's just an non stop argument.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 17:56:25 GMT
And putting poelzig on Ignore doesn't solve the problem. He'll continue to insult everyone every chance he gets if left unchecked. He needs to be banned. And you constantly throw out back handed insults all the same. Other people will be having a disagreement and you will chime in with the usual "Says the person who..." or "This coming from the guy who..." It didn't involve you but then you make these comments and then they retaliate and then it's just an non stop argument. Oh, please, they always through out the first insult. I just refuse to take their crap. As if I needed more proof that you're giving these guys a free pass.
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Post by scabab on Nov 8, 2017 18:12:54 GMT
Oh, please, they always through out the first insult. I just refuse to take their crap. As if I needed more proof that you're giving these guys a free pass. Not all the time they don't. Even if they do sometimes it's not even aimed at you at all but you still get yourself involved in it anyway making matters far worse than it was. So what would have been 1 comment for me to remove will become many. More than anyone else you are most involved with any modding that I have to do. Not that you are always to blame, not at all but you are usually involved somewhere. If it's not you throwing out backhanded insults, you're telling other people how they should respond, you're too sensitive when it comes to any MCU criticism that you get too aggressive in your response which then causes a hostile reaction back. You derailed DC Fans thread about Thor Ragnarok by calling him a troll. You derailed Dennis Reynolds thread about Ant-man. You've derailed several other threads by arguing with Poelzig such as this one etc. You probably get more of a free pass then anybody.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:18:44 GMT
Oh, please, they always through out the first insult. I just refuse to take their crap. As if I needed more proof that you're giving these guys a free pass. Not all the time they don't. Even if they do sometimes it's not even aimed at you at all but you still get yourself involved in it anyway making matters far worse than it was. So what would have been 1 comment for me to remove will become many. More than anyone else you are most involved with any modding that I have to do. Not that you are always to blame, not at all but you are usually involved somewhere. If it's not you throwing out backhanded insults, you're telling other people how they should respond, you're too sensitive when it comes to any MCU criticism that you get too aggressive in your response which then causes a hostile reaction back. You derailed DC Fans thread about Thor Ragnarok by calling him a troll. You derailed Dennis Reynolds thread about Ant-man. You've derailed several other threads by arguing with Poelzig such as this one etc. You probably get more of a free pass then anybody. Fine. I get it. Let the trolls run the forum. Let poelzig insult the fans anyway he wants. Let DennisReynolds call us Marveltards all he wants. Let DC-Fan insult us in under-handed ways all he wants. Yes, I called DC-Fan a troll. Because he's a troll. You know it. I know it. A rose is a rose. A troll is a troll. As I've said before, no other Admins or Mods I've ever met would have tolerated the kind of crap he posts. Or Dennis's. Or poelzig's. Or Tristan's. poelzig has it coming every time, but I've blocked him again as per your request.
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Post by scabab on Nov 8, 2017 18:23:46 GMT
Not all the time they don't. Even if they do sometimes it's not even aimed at you at all but you still get yourself involved in it anyway making matters far worse than it was. So what would have been 1 comment for me to remove will become many. More than anyone else you are most involved with any modding that I have to do. Not that you are always to blame, not at all but you are usually involved somewhere. If it's not you throwing out backhanded insults, you're telling other people how they should respond, you're too sensitive when it comes to any MCU criticism that you get too aggressive in your response which then causes a hostile reaction back. You derailed DC Fans thread about Thor Ragnarok by calling him a troll. You derailed Dennis Reynolds thread about Ant-man. You've derailed several other threads by arguing with Poelzig such as this one etc. You probably get more of a free pass then anybody. Fine. I get it. Let the trolls run the forum. Let poelzig insult the fans anyway he wants. Let DennisReynolds call us Marveltards all he wants. Let DC-Fan insult us in under-handed ways all he wants. Yes, I called DC-Fan a troll. Because he's a troll. You know it. I know it. A rose is a rose. A troll is a troll. As I've said before, no other Admins or Mods I've ever met would have tolerated the kind of crap he posts. Or Dennis's. Or poelzig's. Or Tristan's. poelzig has it coming every time, but I've blocked him again as per your request. They can't do that and I haven't seen Dennis call people Marveltards for a bit now. But DC Fan didn't insult anybody in his thread. He wasn't trolling either he just asked a question and you found some hidden meaning behind it to turn the thread into something else entirely when other people just answered his questions. And even if he was getting at Thor ripping off Wonder Woman as you seem to think was the case, it doesn't matter, it's just what he thinks. Other people think Wonder Woman ripped off Captain America just the same.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:28:59 GMT
Fine. I get it. Let the trolls run the forum. Let poelzig insult the fans anyway he wants. Let DennisReynolds call us Marveltards all he wants. Let DC-Fan insult us in under-handed ways all he wants. Yes, I called DC-Fan a troll. Because he's a troll. You know it. I know it. A rose is a rose. A troll is a troll. As I've said before, no other Admins or Mods I've ever met would have tolerated the kind of crap he posts. Or Dennis's. Or poelzig's. Or Tristan's. poelzig has it coming every time, but I've blocked him again as per your request. They can't do that and I haven't seen Dennis call people Marveltards for a bit now. But DC Fan didn't insult anybody in his thread. He wasn't trolling either he just asked a question and you found some hidden meaning behind it to turn the thread into something else entirely when other people just answered his questions. And even if he was getting at Thor ripping off Wonder Woman as you seem to think was the case, it doesn't matter, it's just what he thinks. Other people think Wonder Woman ripped off Captain America just the same. Only because he knows you'll delete his posts if he does. Remove you as a Mod and he'd be back to his normal behavior in no time. Yes, DC-Fan was trolling. He always trolls. No exceptions. There is no hidden meaning. He was saying in all but words that Thor: Ragnarok was ripping off Wonder Woman. That's not what DC-Fan thinks. He doesn't actually believe any of this crap he spouts. HE'S. A. TROLL! Everything he says is meant to troll this forum. Every single thing.
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Post by Hitman's Bodyguard on Nov 8, 2017 18:31:40 GMT
Oh man. Can finally someone ban this guy from the site. It's getting really annoying here with him.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 9, 2017 6:44:21 GMT
Oh man. Can finally someone ban this guy from the site. It's getting really annoying here with him. i hate this guy, we must worship Marvel
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 8:11:13 GMT
Good. They needed to be knocked down a peg.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 11, 2017 18:41:43 GMT
Good. They needed to be knocked down a peg. A thousand pegs.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 11, 2017 19:19:44 GMT
Well it's a good start.
First step in getting rid of this inane notion that you can give out "awards" for art.
One of the most ridiculous things ever. Pretty much an excuse for movie types to get together, pat each other on the back, feel important ("We're making a difference in the world!"), and get drunk.
There is no such thing as better or worse in art. It's proven every year when they try to give out awards for this stuff. Not once has anyone ever agreed with the results. Even the voters in the Academy can't agree....no movie is ever an unanimous choice for anything.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 11, 2017 19:24:10 GMT
There is no such thing as better or worse in art. Yeah... No. There is. All literary scholarship in the history of mankind begs to differ. But I'm 99.99999999999999% sure you didn't even know that "literary scholarship" existed before reading this post, so just -- don't worry about. Just honestly enjoy blissful ignorance and forget you ever read these words. You seem so cozily cocooned in certainty, I feel bad even responding...
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 11, 2017 19:34:18 GMT
There is no such thing as better or worse in art. Yeah... No. There is. All literary scholarship in the history of mankind begs to differ. But I'm 99.99999999999999% sure you didn't even know that "literary scholarship" existed before reading this post, so just -- don't worry about. Just honestly enjoy blissful ignorance and forget you ever read these words. You seem so cozily cocooned in certainty, I feel bad even responding... By all means provide some evidence to back up your claim. Show me just one list of "best movies" that we all agree with. What is the best movie ever made? Surely you can answer that simple question. Your claim is that "better" exists in art...so back it up. Show me one instance where we agreed with the winners of the Oscars, Emmys, or Grammys. That notion is the easiest to disprove. All you have to do is show the "results" to some one. The instant they disagree with the results they prove it doesn't work. What's your "proof"? Critics? Do you agree with their "best movies" every year? Of course you don't. ...Because they don't either. Try and find two critics with the same "top 10 best movies" list any given year. IMDB voting? That's the biggest sample size of opinons. So that means you agree that Shawshank Redemption is the best movie ever, right? Of course you don't. Box office results? I'll bet you don't think that proves a movie is "better" either, do you? Awards? We already know that doesn't work. It's proven every year. You agree with all these winners, right? oscar.go.com/news/winners/oscar-winners-2017-see-the-complete-list Of course you don't...because no one does. ...Including the people who voted. Quality in art is a myth. It doesn't exist. It's more of our tribalism borne of a need to fit into a group for survival.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 11, 2017 19:41:21 GMT
Yeah... No. There is. All literary scholarship in the history of mankind begs to differ. But I'm 99.99999999999999% sure you didn't even know that "literary scholarship" existed before reading this post, so just -- don't worry about. Just honestly enjoy blissful ignorance and forget you ever read these words. You seem so cozily cocooned in certainty, I feel bad even responding... By all means provide some evidence to back up your claim. Show me just one list of "best movies" that we all agree with. What is the best movie ever made? Surely you can answer that simple question. Your claim is that "better" exists in art...so back it up.
Show me one instance where we agreed with the winners of the Oscars, Emmys, or Grammys.Please please please please please be fucking with me... You -- nobody can be this dense. Do you have a driver's license? Does someone dress you daily? Who puts your pants on? How do you eat food? with a spork? Serious questions.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 11, 2017 22:02:01 GMT
By all means provide some evidence to back up your claim. Show me just one list of "best movies" that we all agree with. What is the best movie ever made? Surely you can answer that simple question. Your claim is that "better" exists in art...so back it up.
Show me one instance where we agreed with the winners of the Oscars, Emmys, or Grammys.Please please please please please be fucking with me... You -- nobody can be this dense. Do you have a driver's license? Does someone dress you daily? Who puts your pants on? How do you eat food? with a spork? Serious avoiding the subject. Fixed that for you. I know you can't provide any proof that there is a way to measure art because it doesn't exist. It should be easy to do....you are claiming it's so obvious. Why is it so hard for you to do?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 11, 2017 22:24:28 GMT
Please please please please please be fucking with me... You -- nobody can be this dense. Do you have a driver's license? Does someone dress you daily? Who puts your pants on? How do you eat food? with a spork? Serious avoiding the subject. Fixed that for you. I know you can't provide any proof that there is a way to measure art because it doesn't exist. It should be easy to do....you are claiming it's so obvious. Why is it so hard for you to do? Because your questions is so inherently stupid and predicated on such a manifestly limited understanding of the world in which you live that it would be like explaining astrophysics to an ant? What's even your demented thesis? If even one person anywhere disagrees with some film getting some arbitrary award, that invalidates the very philosophical concept of scholarly criticism? You're right: I'm not quite sure where to begin to explain anything to someone with such a childlike world view. The very idea that because artistic quality can neither be measured in kilograms or dollars means the entire question is irrelevant is silliness. Edit: but since I'm in a really good mood: here you go, skippy -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_criticism
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 11, 2017 22:50:30 GMT
Fixed that for you. I know you can't provide any proof that there is a way to measure art because it doesn't exist. It should be easy to do....you are claiming it's so obvious. Why is it so hard for you to do? Because your questions is so inherently stupid and predicated on such a manifestly limited understanding of the world in which you live that it would be like explaining astrophysics to an ant? What's even your demented thesis? If even one person anywhere disagrees with some film getting some arbitrary award, that invalidates the very philosophical concept of scholarly criticism? You're right: I'm not quite sure where to begin to explain anything to someone with such a childlike world view. The very idea that because artistic quality can neither be measured in kilograms or dollars means the entire question is irrelevant is silliness. Edit: but since I'm in a really good mood: here you go, skippy -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_criticismAnd you avoided providing any proof again. I of course know why....because it doesn't exist. No one is talking about astrophysics so that diversion won't work. No one said "one person disagrees"...I expressly stated that EVERYONE disagrees. That's why you didn't answer the question about the Oscar winners. You know you don't agree with the winners....just like everyone else. You can't name the greatest movie of all time of course. How about we make it easier? Name the top 10 movies ever made. Shouldn't be a problem since you claim this is such obvious stuff. Prove your point if you can. But of course you can't. I know what critics do....offer up their opinions on art. It is opinions that we either agree with or disagree with. Big shocker. And to make it even more hilarious....no two critics agree with each other either.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 11, 2017 23:03:01 GMT
Because your questions is so inherently stupid and predicated on such a manifestly limited understanding of the world in which you live that it would be like explaining astrophysics to an ant? What's even your demented thesis? If even one person anywhere disagrees with some film getting some arbitrary award, that invalidates the very philosophical concept of scholarly criticism? You're right: I'm not quite sure where to begin to explain anything to someone with such a childlike world view. The very idea that because artistic quality can neither be measured in kilograms or dollars means the entire question is irrelevant is silliness. Edit: but since I'm in a really good mood: here you go, skippy -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_criticismAnd you avoided providing any proof again. I of course know why....because it doesn't exist. No one is talking about astrophysics so that diversion won't work. No one said "one person disagrees"...I expressly stated that EVERYONE disagrees. That's why you didn't answer the question about the Oscar winners. You know you don't agree with the winners....just like everyone else. You can't name the greatest movie of all time of course. How about we make it easier? Name the top 10 movies ever made. Shouldn't be a problem since you claim this is such obvious stuff. Prove your point if you can. But of course you can't. I know what critics do....offer up their opinions on art. It is opinions that we either agree with or disagree with. Big shocker. And to make it even more hilarious....no two critics agree with each other either. You want me to give you "proof" that all films are not created, directed, and produced in equal caliber? How many movies have you ever watched? One? None? It has to be one of these two, because otherwise you'd realize what a clown you're being.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 11, 2017 23:11:25 GMT
And you avoided providing any proof again. I of course know why....because it doesn't exist. No one is talking about astrophysics so that diversion won't work. No one said "one person disagrees"...I expressly stated that EVERYONE disagrees. That's why you didn't answer the question about the Oscar winners. You know you don't agree with the winners....just like everyone else. You can't name the greatest movie of all time of course. How about we make it easier? Name the top 10 movies ever made. Shouldn't be a problem since you claim this is such obvious stuff. Prove your point if you can. But of course you can't. I know what critics do....offer up their opinions on art. It is opinions that we either agree with or disagree with. Big shocker. And to make it even more hilarious....no two critics agree with each other either. You want me to give you "proof" that all films are not created, directed, and produced in equal caliber? How many movies have you ever watched? One? None? It has to be one of these two, because otherwise you'd realize what a clown you're being. You just keep repeated how obvious your point is without backing it up. That's a very ineffective argument. Still waiting. Go ahead and tell me why the Oscar winners are the correct choices. Tell me what the greatest movie of all time is. ....or how about the top 10? Surely you can get a few of them right if you have 10 choices.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 11, 2017 23:14:55 GMT
You want me to give you "proof" that all films are not created, directed, and produced in equal caliber? How many movies have you ever watched? One? None? It has to be one of these two, because otherwise you'd realize what a clown you're being. You just keep repeated how obvious your point is without backing it up. That's a very ineffective argument. Still waiting. Go ahead and tell me why the Oscar winners are the correct choices. Tell me what the greatest movie of all time is. ....or how about the top 10? Surely you can get a few of them right if you have 10 choices.This nonsense false dichotomy is yours, not mine. I've rejected it several times and politely explained to you that you are not a smart person and that your grasp of film and art in general as it relates to the world in which you (sadly) exist (for now, thank god) is rudimentary to the point of not being able to grasp nuance or have a conversation with me about it. If you understood that, though, you wouldn't have framed the so-called "argument" that way in the first place. It's a vicious cycle of you saying, "A+B = C," me explaining that there are twenty-three other letters in the alphabet, and you reasserting that these are the three you've heard about and, god damn it, you're sticking with 'em. Well, stick them somewhere else, sparky.
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