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Post by harpospoke on Nov 11, 2017 23:27:10 GMT
You just keep repeated how obvious your point is without backing it up. That's a very ineffective argument. Still waiting. Go ahead and tell me why the Oscar winners are the correct choices. Tell me what the greatest movie of all time is. ....or how about the top 10? Surely you can get a few of them right if you have 10 choices.This nonsense false dichotomy is yours, not mine. I've rejected it several times and politely explained to you that you are not a smart person and that your grasp of film and art in general as it relates to the world in which you (sadly) exist (for now, thank god) is rudimentary to the point of not being able to grasp nuance or have a conversation with me about it. If you understood that, though, you wouldn't have framed the so-called "argument" that way in the first place. It's a vicious cycle of you saying, "A+B = C," me explaining that there are twenty-three other letters in the alphabet, and you reasserting that these are the three you've heard about and, god damn it, you're sticking with 'em. Well, stick them somewhere else, sparky. You certainly made it about me in a hurry. So you add the Ad Hominem tactic in there with the straw man occasionally. "Sparky" is supposed to make me feel bad I guess. And of course now I know I shouldn't exist so that makes me cry. All you've done is repeat "you're stupid" without actually supporting your claim. That's it. It would be easy to supply some evidence of your claim if it was that obvious. But of course you can't provide anything. You can't point to any awards, critics, polls because you will be forced to admit you don't agree with any of them....just like no one else does. But let me guess the next post..."You're just too dumb to see it"...right?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 11, 2017 23:33:22 GMT
This nonsense false dichotomy is yours, not mine. I've rejected it several times and politely explained to you that you are not a smart person and that your grasp of film and art in general as it relates to the world in which you (sadly) exist (for now, thank god) is rudimentary to the point of not being able to grasp nuance or have a conversation with me about it. If you understood that, though, you wouldn't have framed the so-called "argument" that way in the first place. It's a vicious cycle of you saying, "A+B = C," me explaining that there are twenty-three other letters in the alphabet, and you reasserting that these are the three you've heard about and, god damn it, you're sticking with 'em. Well, stick them somewhere else, sparky. You certainly made it about me in a hurry. So you add the Ad Hominem tactic in there with the straw man occasionally. "Sparky" is supposed to make me feel bad I guess. And of course now I know I shouldn't exist so that makes me cry. All you've done is repeat "you're stupid" without actually supporting your claim. That's it. It would be easy to supply some evidence of your claim if it was that obvious. But of course you can't provide anything. You can't point to any awards, critics, polls because you will be forced to admit you don't agree with any of them....just like no one else does. But let me guess the next post..."You're just too dumb to see it"...right? I mean, you appear to be pretty dumb. So I dunno: are you just too dumb to see that your entire line of reasoning is absurd in the philosophical sense of the word?
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 11, 2017 23:54:46 GMT
You certainly made it about me in a hurry. So you add the Ad Hominem tactic in there with the straw man occasionally. "Sparky" is supposed to make me feel bad I guess. And of course now I know I shouldn't exist so that makes me cry. All you've done is repeat "you're stupid" without actually supporting your claim. That's it. It would be easy to supply some evidence of your claim if it was that obvious. But of course you can't provide anything. You can't point to any awards, critics, polls because you will be forced to admit you don't agree with any of them....just like no one else does. But let me guess the next post..."You're just too dumb to see it"...right? I mean, you appear to be pretty dumb. So I dunno: are you just too dumb to see that your entire line of reasoning is absurd in the philosophical sense of the word? How about you actually backing up your claim with something other than "It's true and you're dumb"? Cause that's all you've got so far, "Sparky" (not a bad nickname) This shouldn't be hard if your claim is true. Since it is not true, that means you can't provide any evidence.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 11, 2017 23:57:52 GMT
I mean, you appear to be pretty dumb. So I dunno: are you just too dumb to see that your entire line of reasoning is absurd in the philosophical sense of the word?How about you actually backing up your claim with something other than "It's true and you're dumb"? Cause that's all you've got so far, "Sparky" (not a bad nickname) This shouldn't be hard if your claim is true. Since it is not true, that means you can't provide any evidence. So... Yeah, you are.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 13, 2017 5:12:08 GMT
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 13, 2017 6:58:37 GMT
Why is it that I have to literally put every movie ever made in some kind of ranked order to "prove" that the abstract concept of quality applies to filmmaking and that it exists? It's self evident by virtue of watching more than one movie in the course of your lifetime, unless you're an alien/robot/idiot. Which of those three is it?
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 13, 2017 19:55:28 GMT
Why is it that I have to literally put every movie ever made in some kind of ranked order to "prove" that the abstract concept of quality applies to filmmaking and that it exists? It's self evident by virtue of watching more than one movie in the course of your lifetime, unless you're an alien/robot/idiot. Which of those three is it? Obviously not. I gave you the option to tell everyone what the best movie ever made is. Then I asked you to name the top 10 ever made. You can do neither of those things because it doesn't exist. There is a reason why you don't present anything to back up your claim. Anything you put forward will be shot down immediately because even you won't agree with it. You know this. And of course we all have our own rankings by virtue of watching more than one movie over the course of our lifetimes. That's why there is only one ranking we agree with.... OURS. There is one top 10 list in any given year that we agree with... OURS. That's how art works. There is no "better"...there is only what WE like. You can literally be the only person on the planet to like a piece of art and it would be just as good to you.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 13, 2017 21:35:24 GMT
Why is it that I have to literally put every movie ever made in some kind of ranked order to "prove" that the abstract concept of quality applies to filmmaking and that it exists? It's self evident by virtue of watching more than one movie in the course of your lifetime, unless you're an alien/robot/idiot. Which of those three is it? Obviously not. I gave you the option to tell everyone what the best movie ever made is. Then I asked you to name the top 10 ever made. You can do neither of those things because it doesn't exist. There is a reason why you don't present anything to back up your claim. Anything you put forward will be shot down immediately because even you won't agree with it. You know this. And of course we all have our own rankings by virtue of watching more than one movie over the course of our lifetimes. That's why there is only one ranking we agree with.... OURS. There is one top 10 list in any given year that we agree with... OURS. That's how art works. There is no "better"...there is only what WE like. You can literally be the only person on the planet to like a piece of art and it would be just as good to you. Nah, this is a gross oversimplification and just demonstrates that you aren't a thoughtful or bright person. Enjoy your blissful, willful ignorance!
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 14, 2017 5:51:00 GMT
Obviously not. I gave you the option to tell everyone what the best movie ever made is. Then I asked you to name the top 10 ever made. You can do neither of those things because it doesn't exist. There is a reason why you don't present anything to back up your claim. Anything you put forward will be shot down immediately because even you won't agree with it. You know this. And of course we all have our own rankings by virtue of watching more than one movie over the course of our lifetimes. That's why there is only one ranking we agree with.... OURS. There is one top 10 list in any given year that we agree with... OURS. That's how art works. There is no "better"...there is only what WE like. You can literally be the only person on the planet to like a piece of art and it would be just as good to you. Nah, this is a gross oversimplification and just demonstrates that you aren't a thoughtful or bright person. Enjoy your blissful, willful ignorance! Now you aren't even being creative in your attempt to avoid the question.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 14, 2017 19:10:35 GMT
Nah, this is a gross oversimplification and just demonstrates that you aren't a thoughtful or bright person. Enjoy your blissful, willful ignorance! Now you aren't even being creative in your attempt to avoid the question. I've answered it like four times, notwithstanding your insistence on being arbitrarily contrarian and your lack of intellectual capacity.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 14, 2017 20:09:02 GMT
Now you aren't even being creative in your attempt to avoid the question. I've answered it like four times, notwithstanding your insistence on being arbitrarily contrarian and your lack of intellectual capacity. No...you just posted something like that over and over without actually addressing the question. Anything you try will fail the test. Rank the MCU movies in order of quality and I'll find a list that doesn't agree with you. Rank the DCU movies in order of quality and it will also fail. Rank the Fox CBMs. Rank the Sony Spider-Man films. Go ahead and try. You won't be able to do it.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 14, 2017 20:50:16 GMT
I've answered it like four times, notwithstanding your insistence on being arbitrarily contrarian and your lack of intellectual capacity. No...you just posted something like that over and over without actually addressing the question. Anything you try will fail the test.Rank the MCU movies in order of quality and I'll find a list that doesn't agree with you. Rank the DCU movies in order of quality and it will also fail. Rank the Fox CBMs. Rank the Sony Spider-Man films. Go ahead and try. You won't be able to do it.This speaks for itself. I'll take it as your unwitting concession to my point and consider this a win. Thanks, kiddo.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 15, 2017 5:51:56 GMT
No...you just posted something like that over and over without actually addressing the question. Anything you try will fail the test.Rank the MCU movies in order of quality and I'll find a list that doesn't agree with you. Rank the DCU movies in order of quality and it will also fail. Rank the Fox CBMs. Rank the Sony Spider-Man films. Go ahead and try. You won't be able to do it.This speaks for itself. I'll take it as your unwitting concession to my point and consider this a win. Thanks, kiddo. So another avoidance post? Still waiting for you to back up your claim....with anything. You can't even rank the DCU movies because you know that would fail badly.
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Post by poelzig on Nov 15, 2017 5:56:26 GMT
No...you just posted something like that over and over without actually addressing the question. Anything you try will fail the test.Rank the MCU movies in order of quality and I'll find a list that doesn't agree with you. Rank the DCU movies in order of quality and it will also fail. Rank the Fox CBMs. Rank the Sony Spider-Man films. Go ahead and try. You won't be able to do it.This speaks for itself. I'll take it as your unwitting concession to my point and consider this a win. Thanks, kiddo. Congrats Colden. You humiliated that guy. At this point he's just making himself look worse with each post.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 15, 2017 6:01:40 GMT
This speaks for itself. I'll take it as your unwitting concession to my point and consider this a win. Thanks, kiddo. Congrats Colden. You humiliated that guy. At this point he's just making himself look worse with each post. Well well....another one that says absolutely nothing and then claims a "victory". Let me guess...you can't be bothered to provide any proof of the claim either, right?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 6:32:51 GMT
Congrats Colden. You humiliated that guy. At this point he's just making himself look worse with each post. Well well....another one that says absolutely nothing and then claims a "victory". Let me guess...you can't be bothered to provide any proof of the claim either, right? No, but he does have over 20 felonies to his name (his words, not mine) and he's threatened to track me down and give me a savage beating on at least one occasion. Oh, and he found personal information about me and threatened to put it on "front street" to try knuckling me under.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 15, 2017 6:48:08 GMT
Congrats Colden. You humiliated that guy. At this point he's just making himself look worse with each post. Well well....another one that says absolutely nothing and then claims a "victory". Let me guess...you can't be bothered to provide any proof of the claim either, right? come on don't be such a sore loser, harpo. You lost to the best. Take it like a man already. In the end you are the one who proved that asteroids always fall into a crater, nobody can take that from you.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 15, 2017 8:36:26 GMT
Well well....another one that says absolutely nothing and then claims a "victory". Let me guess...you can't be bothered to provide any proof of the claim either, right? come on don't be such a sore loser, harpo. You lost to the best. Take it like a man already. In the end you are the one who proved that asteroids always fall into a crater, nobody can take that from you. You must root for those elementary school soccer teams where "everyone gets a medal". We are going to need someone to provide some evidence here before claiming this much sought after "victory". So far we've seen nothing but avoiding that very thing as strongly as possible while retreating to ad hominem "you're stupid" tactics. It's not close to being a convincing argument. Again...if it's such a simple thing, then why is it so hard to get you guys to back it up? I can wait if you need to search around for this alleged obvious fact.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 15, 2017 9:10:20 GMT
come on don't be such a sore loser, harpo. You lost to the best. Take it like a man already. In the end you are the one who proved that asteroids always fall into a crater, nobody can take that from you. You must root for those elementary school soccer teams where "everyone gets a medal". We are going to need someone to provide some evidence here before claiming this much sought after "victory". So far we've seen nothing but avoiding that very thing as strongly as possible while retreating to ad hominem "you're stupid" tactics. don't get your hopes up, you do not get medals for missing the goal, it's not like them asteroids. At least where I come from, and it's called football here, old sport. I am personally still waiting for proof of all the unstubstantiated claims you made.
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 15, 2017 12:01:01 GMT
harpospoke is actually right... You can't say which movie is the best movie, because different movies is the best movie to different people. You can say which movie is technically better, but that would only be because technology. So that would discount older movies. I mean, you guys keep going on about BvS being the best comic book movie of last year when that movie was on nobody's list of top movies of the year.
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