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Post by ryboto on Jul 21, 2017 19:10:14 GMT
Like I said, I was HYPED for the movie, given the trailer. I went in EXCITED. Not jaded. I was open minded, I stayed away from all the ads, anything that would overhype it for me. I only watched the trailers. Then I start watching the movie and it felt like a bait and switch to me. Get me hyped on the music, and mystery, but then take away the mystery for a shoddy plot and barely even give me any decent John Williams to get excited about. I can't even remember the music in this movie, not one new piece stood out for me.
In my mind, just like Trek, the original SW is dead. It might be 'alive' to you, but it's a hollow form of it's former self. The Rebels show is better than these two movies from a mythos and respect to the universe perspective.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 19:52:31 GMT
Like I said, I was HYPED for the movie, given the trailer. I went in EXCITED. Not jaded. I was open minded, I stayed away from all the ads, anything that would overhype it for me. I only watched the trailers. Then I start watching the movie and it felt like a bait and switch to me. Get me hyped on the music, and mystery, but then take away the mystery for a shoddy plot and barely even give me any decent John Williams to get excited about. I can't even remember the music in this movie, not one new piece stood out for me. In my mind, just like Trek, the original SW is dead. It might be 'alive' to you, but it's a hollow form of it's former self. The Rebels show is better than these two movies from a mythos and respect to the universe perspective. So if it's dead for you, why are you posting on a forum dedicated to the next film? If it's dead for you, why are you already admitting you're going to pirate it and watch it?
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Post by ryboto on Jul 21, 2017 20:21:17 GMT
IF I watch it, it'll be because the kids want to. In that case, I'll pirate it. I'm posting here because it's fun to discuss how terrible TFA is, and how nothing can really save the franchise from the choices they've already made with the new characters and general direction of the 'saga'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 20:57:53 GMT
IF I watch it, it'll be because the kids want to. In that case, I'll pirate it. I'm posting here because it's fun to discuss how terrible TFA is, and how nothing can really save the franchise from the choices they've already made with the new characters and general direction of the 'saga'. Ha, sure. It's because of the kids. I believe you when you say you hated TFA. I think you're full of shit when you say you're not interested in watching TLJ. You want to know what Luke discovered on his self-exile as much as the rest of us. At the very least, you care about where the OT character threads will end up. As for "nothing can save the franchise...".....c'mon man. The movie gushed out more profit than The Lonely Mountain. SW merchandise is ubiquitous. A new novel is published every third month. TFA did the exact opposite of killing the franchise.
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Post by Surly on Jul 22, 2017 1:16:18 GMT
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 23, 2017 1:07:30 GMT
IF I watch it, it'll be because the kids want to. In that case, I'll pirate it. I'm posting here because it's fun to discuss how terrible TFA is, and how nothing can really save the franchise from the choices they've already made with the new characters and general direction of the 'saga'. Ha, sure. It's because of the kids. I believe you when you say you hated TFA. I think you're full of shit when you say you're not interested in watching TLJ. You want to know what Luke discovered on his self-exile as much as the rest of us. At the very least, you care about where the OT character threads will end up. As for "nothing can save the franchise...".....c'mon man. The movie gushed out more profit than The Lonely Mountain. SW merchandise is ubiquitous. A new novel is published every third month. TFA did the exact opposite of killing the franchise. TFA poisoned everything that will ever come after it.
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Post by jsnification on Jul 23, 2017 8:22:45 GMT
STAR WARS The Last Jedi MAJOR SPOILER Pics! Part 72
New MAJOR SPOILER pics from Comic Con, action figures, video games, books and more!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 23, 2017 13:07:17 GMT
^This honestly looks worse than TFA.
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jul 23, 2017 14:29:46 GMT
^This honestly looks worse than TFA. the prequels suck , TFA rejuvenated the franchise
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Post by ryboto on Jul 23, 2017 15:00:04 GMT
IF I watch it, it'll be because the kids want to. In that case, I'll pirate it. I'm posting here because it's fun to discuss how terrible TFA is, and how nothing can really save the franchise from the choices they've already made with the new characters and general direction of the 'saga'. Ha, sure. It's because of the kids. I believe you when you say you hated TFA. I think you're full of shit when you say you're not interested in watching TLJ. You want to know what Luke discovered on his self-exile as much as the rest of us. At the very least, you care about where the OT character threads will end up. As for "nothing can save the franchise...".....c'mon man. The movie gushed out more profit than The Lonely Mountain. SW merchandise is ubiquitous. A new novel is published every third month. TFA did the exact opposite of killing the franchise. No, I really give no shits about this new direction. It's uninteresting and doesn't fit the OT characters. Saving the franchise's bottom line is different than saving it creatively. It was fine creatively. What we've got is now a less interesting franchise that makes money because it sells nostalgia and made the Force into magic.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 23, 2017 16:32:49 GMT
^This honestly looks worse than TFA. the prequels suck , TFA rejuvenated the franchise Nope. Poisoned it forever.
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Post by Nightman on Jul 23, 2017 17:12:02 GMT
^This honestly looks worse than TFA. Some of it looks cool.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 23, 2017 17:53:12 GMT
^This honestly looks worse than TFA. Some of it looks cool. What parts?!
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Post by Nightman on Jul 23, 2017 21:54:34 GMT
The casino, Kylo's ship, Luke, the Knights of Ren, Snoke, Benecio del Toro. Of course, there's some stuff I heard that piss me off, but I hope those are just rumors.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 23, 2017 22:06:36 GMT
The casino, Kylo's ship, Luke, the Knights of Ren, Snoke, Benecio del Toro. Of course, there's some stuff I heard that piss me off, but I hope those are just rumors. Like what?
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Post by Nightman on Jul 24, 2017 2:41:01 GMT
The casino, Kylo's ship, Luke, the Knights of Ren, Snoke, Benecio del Toro. Of course, there's some stuff I heard that piss me off, but I hope those are just rumors. Like what? Luke wanting to kill Kylo (which would explain what Mark Hamill didn't agree with), Reylo happening because they're Force soulmates or some sht, the Millenium Falcon getting destroyed, Rey being confirmed as more powerful than Luke, Yoda, etc. I hope to R'hllor they aren't true.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 3:54:58 GMT
Luke wanting to kill Kylo (which would explain what Mark Hamill didn't agree with), Reylo happening because they're Force soulmates or some sht, the Millenium Falcon getting destroyed, Rey being confirmed as more powerful than Luke, Yoda, etc. I hope to R'hllor they aren't true. (Face plant)
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 24, 2017 4:58:36 GMT
Luke wanting to kill Kylo (which would explain what Mark Hamill didn't agree with), Reylo happening because they're Force soulmates or some sht, the Millenium Falcon getting destroyed, Rey being confirmed as more powerful than Luke, Yoda, etc. I hope to R'hllor they aren't true. This is almost certainly going to happen. They're going to retcon the "prophesy" to mean that REY is more significant than literally anyone ever, including and especially Anakin.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 14:30:19 GMT
Ha, well, I'm just now realizing this, but perhaps part of my problem understanding the anti-Rey crowd is that I am wholly unfamiliar with Disney princesses. Like I said, I really loathe Disney movies. I have avoided them at all costs. So maybe someone who is quite familiar with Disney female leads sees something in Rey that I cannot see. And listen, I"ll admit that the "stop taking my hand" stuff comes off like there's a swarm of angry feminists writing the script, but I think it goes a long way in showing how presentation and timing can change the way people see things. Rey's strength of character in that moment is no more or less anti-chauvanisitic than Leia's take-charge moment coming out of the trash compactor in ANH. Of course, back then, women really didn't have the political organization they have now, so that cinematic moment was not tied to an obvious exterior motive, and, was thus, less offensive to the male audience. I often wonder that if TFA's final cut only had Rey saying that line once to Finn if it would have made a difference. Because the first time she said it, I kind of snickered. But I got annoyed when it was repeated because then it became contrived. Even though I didn't like these lines, I still thought Rey was a pretty good lead, relative to what we've had in SW movies. I'll concede that I'll be interested to see how well dialogue holds up in TLJ. There is no doubt that most of the best written lines (and deliveries for that matter) were Han's (not unlike the OT). TLJ looks to be a lot more serious as well, so we'll see how the new team does with a different vibe.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 14:40:36 GMT
Ha, sure. It's because of the kids. I believe you when you say you hated TFA. I think you're full of shit when you say you're not interested in watching TLJ. You want to know what Luke discovered on his self-exile as much as the rest of us. At the very least, you care about where the OT character threads will end up. As for "nothing can save the franchise...".....c'mon man. The movie gushed out more profit than The Lonely Mountain. SW merchandise is ubiquitous. A new novel is published every third month. TFA did the exact opposite of killing the franchise. TFA poisoned everything that will ever come after it. That's just a weird thing to say considering how open-ended the main character arcs still are.
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