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Post by charzhino on Nov 18, 2017 12:44:54 GMT
Since the rotten tomatoes score of Justice League looks like it wont change much from 38-40% now, this leaves Logan objectively the best received and rated comic book live adaption of 2017 beating its rivals across all scoring platforms.
Tomatoemeter: Logan - 93% GotG 2 - 92% Spidey - 92% WW - 92% Thor - 92% Justice L - 39%
Rotten Tomatoes Audience score Logan - 90% Spidey - 89% WW - 89% Thor - 89% GotG 2 - 88% Justice L - 86%
Rotten Tomatoes Average score: Logan - 7.9 Spidey - 7.6 WW - 7.5 Thor - 7.5 GotG 2 - 7.2 Justice L - 5.4
Metacritic Logan - 77 WW - 76 Spidey - 73 Thor - 73 GotG 2 - 67 Justice L - 46
IMDB Logan - 8.2 Thor - 8.2 GotG 2 - 7.8 Justice L - 7.7 WW - 7.6 Spidey - 7.6
Clean sweep across all platforms and deservedly so.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 18, 2017 13:41:08 GMT
Obviously the Russians and Misogynists hacked the results against Wonder Woman!!!!
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Post by summers8 on Nov 18, 2017 14:21:30 GMT
Logan is the best comic film not because of rt or imdb or metacritic or whatever. It is the best because it did something different and told a real human story and thought outside of the box of the typical generic comic book movies like all MCU movies did this year.
Wonder Woman has done a lot for female comic book films and should be recongized.
JL, I think will be the end of an era, a new era for DC will begin and would be good if wonder woman was the foundation. I am not worried here about Justice League, the movie had to happen so this phase of the DCEU can be closed once and for all.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 18, 2017 14:34:34 GMT
Logan is the best comic film not because of rt or imdb or metacritic or whatever. It is the best because it Was Jackman's Swan Song. The critics and audiences went easy on the film due to that and ignored the problems with it. Like the unoriginality.
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Post by King Conan on Nov 18, 2017 14:42:54 GMT
Blah blah blah blah. The same words over and over again. Are you speech impaired?
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 18, 2017 14:55:22 GMT
Blah blah blah blah. The same words over and over again. Are you speech impaired? I'm not the one who thinks every single CBM needs to be R-rated for the sake of it.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 18, 2017 14:57:08 GMT
Logan is the best comic film not because of rt or imdb or metacritic or whatever. It is the best because it Was Jackman's Swan Song. The critics and audiences went easy on the film due to that and ignored the problems with it. Like the unoriginality. Jacksons swan song gave it a little boost, but its still worthy of the praise for being different. Just compare it to the other major cbm released and you can see why audiences and critics loved it. And most of the movie going folk dont know the difference between Marvel MCU and Fox or that it was Jackson's last wolverine film. They liked it because it wasn't a cliched generic kiddy comedy disguised as a superhero film.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 18, 2017 15:00:20 GMT
Jacksons swan song gave it a little boost, A BIG one. It had an R Rating and thus could throw buckets of blood and gore at the audience to substitute plot and they wussed out by setting it some alternate future so they could discard all the plot from prior movies and causally discard all the prior characters with no effort. I'm pretty sure they did. Oh, so now every single CBM has to have an R rating and kill everyone at the end to be considered a decent film. Glad to know. Homecoming would've been even better if we had a scene of Peter having anal with MJ and everyone died in the end. And Peter should've ripped people in half every chance he got. And Aunt May should've been a prostitute for more nudity and sex scenes since they could away with it.
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Post by King Conan on Nov 18, 2017 15:25:46 GMT
Blah blah blah blah. The same words over and over again. Are you speech impaired? I'm not the one who thinks every single CBM needs to be R-rated for the sake of it. Bullshit. Never said that every CBM needs an R-Rating. But some characters works better with it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 18, 2017 15:43:07 GMT
I'm not the one who thinks every single CBM needs to be R-rated for the sake of it. Bullshit. Never said that every CBM needs an R-Rating. But some characters works better with it. People who complain that Disney won't make Deadpool or Logan R Rated anymore ignore that for a long time all FOX did was make PG movies. That means they discount ALL of the PG rated movies Fox made and only care about the R Rated ones. So when they praise Logan and Deadpool they're similarly ignoring all PG rated CBMs. So that means, to them, all CBMs must be R Rated to be worth acknowledging because they don't acknowledge any of FOX's own PG rated movies. So to be worthwhile movies, every single MCU CBM would have to be R rated as well. All of them with as much sex and violence as Deadpool, even if it doesn't add anything to the plot. IE, in Civil War instead of showing Vision talking to Wanda so we understand their emotional bond an R-Rated version would just have him trying to have sex with her. Or in First Avenger, when Steve thinks Bucky is dead and is sad and trying to get drunk because he's mourning him the R Rated version would have him decide to go have sex with Peggy and not care about Bucky's death.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Nov 18, 2017 16:14:29 GMT
Logan is the best comic film not because of rt or imdb or metacritic or whatever. It is the best because it Was Jackman's Swan Song. The critics and audiences went easy on the film due to that and ignored the problems with it. Like the unoriginality. Will you stop being so butthurt.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 18, 2017 17:35:47 GMT
Oh, so now every single CBM has to have an R rating and kill everyone at the end to be considered a decent film. Nope no one claimed that. Logan if it didn't have the R rating still would have rocked. And its vastly different to the others that have come out which is a big reason why people enjoyed it, they appreciated the genre embracing a more raw and unpolished entry rather than the cookie cutter kiddy comedies that Marvel and DC put out this year.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 18, 2017 18:00:49 GMT
Logan had the benefit of being very different from the usual cbm. That definitely helped its rating.
My problem with Logan is that although I loved it on first viewing, I found it doesn't hold up as well in repeated viewings.
The plot is simple, the action so-so, the swearing and blood unnecessarily excessive, villain was horribly bland. Acting was great though, but that alone doesn't make the movie great. In the end I realized that what made me love the movie in the first place was the novelty of it for being so different.
Unfortunately, after repeated viewings that novelty starts to fade. And so while I still consider it a good movie, I doubt it even breaks my top 10 cbms.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 18, 2017 18:20:51 GMT
Nope no one claimed that. Everyone complaining about how MCU doesn't make R Rated movies is asking for that. I doubt that. No buckets of blood to lure blood-hungry audiences. They enjoyed a CBM that killed everyone at the end and continued to reject the source material and mock it.
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Post by kleinreturns on Nov 18, 2017 18:52:51 GMT
Logan was garbage straight up, only thing it had was blood/guts violence and childish constant cursing to appeal the lame FOX-Men fans.
Good riddance to Jackman and his lame Wolverine. BTW all of the villains in these garbage wolverine trilogy are crap and unremarkable: Barakapool, Mecha Silver Samarai and a watered down forgettable Madame Hydra in the form of Viper, and a down south Donald Pierce with a cartoonish accent, with his completely unremarkable bunch of sh!tty Reaver wannabes (compare these lame assholes to the actual comicbook reavers and you will see how lame this movie reavers are), a bastardization of Mr. Sinister and a bad CGI Wolverine clone. And yet FOX-Men fans constantly talk trash about MCU villains, where this year alone we got excellent villains like Ego, Vulture, Surtur and Hela. Thor 3 and GOTG V2 were far superior to trash like Logan.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 18, 2017 19:32:46 GMT
Logan was garbage straight up, only thing it had was blood/guts violence and childish constant cursing to appeal the lame FOX-Men fans. Good riddance to Jackman and his lame Wolverine. BTW all of the villains in these garbage wolverine trilogy are crap and unremarkable: Barakapool, Mecha Silver Samarai and a watered down forgettable Madame Hydra in the form of Viper, and a down south Donald Pierce with a cartoonish accent, with his completely unremarkable bunch of sh!tty Reaver wannabes (compare these lame assholes to the actual comicbook reavers and you will see how lame this movie reavers are), a bastardization of Mr. Sinister and a bad CGI Wolverine clone. And yet FOX-Men fans constantly talk trash about MCU villains, where this year alone we got excellent villains like Ego, Vulture, Surtur and Hela. Thor 3 and GOTG V2 were far superior to trash like Logan. You must really hate mature, dialogue driven movies with social commentary. Stick to your straightforward CGI comedies.
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Post by scabab on Nov 18, 2017 19:37:53 GMT
I haven't seen Justice League but I'd agree that Logan was the best, quality wise.
Thor Ragnarok being the most entertaining. Wonder Woman being a combination of the two to a slightly lesser extent.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 18, 2017 19:54:01 GMT
Logan was garbage straight up, only thing it had was blood/guts violence and childish constant cursing to appeal the lame FOX-Men fans. Good riddance to Jackman and his lame Wolverine. BTW all of the villains in these garbage wolverine trilogy are crap and unremarkable: Barakapool, Mecha Silver Samarai and a watered down forgettable Madame Hydra in the form of Viper, and a down south Donald Pierce with a cartoonish accent, with his completely unremarkable bunch of sh!tty Reaver wannabes (compare these lame assholes to the actual comicbook reavers and you will see how lame this movie reavers are), a bastardization of Mr. Sinister and a bad CGI Wolverine clone. And yet FOX-Men fans constantly talk trash about MCU villains, where this year alone we got excellent villains like Ego, Vulture, Surtur and Hela. Thor 3 and GOTG V2 were far superior to trash like Logan. You must really hate mature, dialogue driven movies with social commentary.. No, just flicks like Logan.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 18, 2017 21:11:39 GMT
Logan was the best for me also.i haven't seen JL,but I enjoyed all comic book films this yea,except Ragnarok
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 18, 2017 21:31:42 GMT
Since the rotten tomatoes score of Justice League looks like it wont change much from 38-40% now, this leaves Logan objectively the best received and rated comic book live adaption of 2017 beating its rivals across all scoring platforms. Tomatoemeter:Logan - 93% GotG 2 - 92% Spidey - 92% WW - 92% Thor - 92% Justice L - 39% Rotten Tomatoes Audience score
Logan - 90% Spidey - 89% WW - 89% Thor - 89% GotG 2 - 88% Justice L - 86% Rotten Tomatoes Average score:
Logan - 7.9 Spidey - 7.6 WW - 7.5 Thor - 7.5 GotG 2 - 7.2 Justice L - 5.4 MetacriticLogan - 77 WW - 76 Spidey - 73 Thor - 73 GotG 2 - 67 Justice L - 46 IMDBLogan - 8.2 Thor - 8.2 GotG 2 - 7.8 Justice L - 7.7 WW - 7.6 Spidey - 7.6 Clean sweep across all platforms and deservedly so. And all those "platforms" fail to prove anything. You can tell because everyone says they are wrong when they don't agree with the results. Only when we agree do we hold them up as "proof". You also left off the other commonly cited "proof"...box office: 1-SM:H $880.1m 2-GotG 2 $863.6m 3-WW $821.8m 4-Thor 3 $671.4m (might move up) 5-Logan $616.8m 6-JL $109.5m (might move up)
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