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Post by damngumby on Nov 30, 2017 0:58:39 GMT
The MCU has made its mark successfully blending humor with drama and action. So much so that DC was compelled to try and copy the MCU formula following the dual disasters of BvS and Suicide Squad. Justice League was probably the ultimate sell out with a trailer loaded with yucks and not effort whatsoever to conceal their attempt to copy The Avengers.
Now, we’ve got the Infinity War trailer, and holy cow is it awesomely dire. Not a single yuck or light-hearted moment. After perfecting the light-hearted superhero movie, is the MCU about to teach DC the right way to make a compelling dark superhero flick?
Sure looks that way!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 1:11:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 1:13:43 GMT
In all seriousness, I appreciated that the IW trailer didn't go for yucks. I hope they take things as seriously as the trailer made it out to be. Give it some real stakes.
But it won't be better than The Dark Knight or Logan.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 30, 2017 1:29:51 GMT
But it won't be better than The Dark Knight or Logan. Never say never. The Russo Brothers has demonstrated the ability to exceed expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 1:36:23 GMT
But it won't be better than The Dark Knight or Logan. Never say never. The Russo Brothers has demonstrated the ability to exceed expectations. Sure. But those were Oscar caliber films. IW will be fun and exciting, but it ain't gonna be nominated for any major Oscars (Acting, Directing, Writing, Best Picture, etc).
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 30, 2017 1:46:55 GMT
In all seriousness, I appreciated that the IW trailer didn't go for yucks. I hope they take things as seriously as the trailer made it out to be. Give it some real stakes. But it won't be better than The Dark Knight or Logan. Well, it's not a Swan Song and no one is going to die like in TDK...so IW doesn't have their artificial boosters to fool people the way Logan and TDK did. Also, it isn't a "grounded" film meaning it's an automatic turn-off to the Academy. Thankfully the rest of the MCU has elevated the genre's respectability enough that it'll still be a hit with critics and the audience.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 1:50:28 GMT
In all seriousness, I appreciated that the IW trailer didn't go for yucks. I hope they take things as seriously as the trailer made it out to be. Give it some real stakes. But it won't be better than The Dark Knight or Logan. Well, it's not a Swan Song and no one is going to die like in TDK...so IW doesn't have their artificial boosters to fool people the way Logan and TDK did. Also, it isn't a "grounded" film meaning it's an automatic turn-off to the Academy. Thankfully the rest of the MCU has elevated the genre's respectability enough that it'll still be a hit with critics and the audience. I'd count on Tony or Steve dying.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 2:00:09 GMT
In all seriousness, I appreciated that the IW trailer didn't go for yucks. I hope they take things as seriously as the trailer made it out to be. Give it some real stakes. But it won't be better than The Dark Knight or Logan. Well, it's not a Swan Song and no one is going to die like in TDK...so IW doesn't have their artificial boosters to fool people the way Logan and TDK did. Also, it isn't a "grounded" film meaning it's an automatic turn-off to the Academy. Thankfully the rest of the MCU has elevated the genre's respectability enough that it'll still be a hit with critics and the audience. Stopped reading at "artificial boosters." XD
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 4:33:14 GMT
A serious trailer isn't really indicative of anything. Age of Ultron looked dark, and Ultron ended up being a stand-up comedian.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 30, 2017 5:23:54 GMT
Well if JL was a copy of Marvel then I say "Yes please!" I liked JL. There might be a few similarities. Never say never. The Russo Brothers has demonstrated the ability to exceed expectations. Sure. But those were Oscar caliber films. IW will be fun and exciting, but it ain't gonna be nominated for any major Oscars (Acting, Directing, Writing, Best Picture, etc). Best example of how "awards" fail and don't really matter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 5:49:38 GMT
Yeah I don't understand why these movies need to be nominated for awards to be considered good or anything. I mean they're summer blockbuster movies intent on entertaining the audience that goes to see them. It's like saying Bad Boys isn't a good movie because it wasn't nominated for an Oscar. Give me these types of movies any day over Oscar films. Every year I see these Oscar nominations and I'm lucky to have even seen one of the films or even have an interest in seeing one of them. I see some of the favorites for it this year and the only one I have any interest in ever watching is The Big Sick. I'm not including Wonder Woman in this because I seriously doubt it's even a real consideration for nomination. Same goes for Logan.
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Post by Lee on Nov 30, 2017 9:03:22 GMT
In all seriousness, I appreciated that the IW trailer didn't go for yucks. I hope they take things as seriously as the trailer made it out to be. Give it some real stakes. But it won't be better than The Dark Knight or Logan. Well, it's not a Swan Song and no one is going to die like in TDK...so IW doesn't have their artificial boosters to fool people the way Logan and TDK did. Also, it isn't a "grounded" film meaning it's an automatic turn-off to the Academy. Thankfully the rest of the MCU has elevated the genre's respectability enough that it'll still be a hit with critics and the audience. Still using the death of a dead person as an excuse? Disrespectful, at it's best.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 30, 2017 10:14:30 GMT
In all seriousness, I appreciated that the IW trailer didn't go for yucks. I hope they take things as seriously as the trailer made it out to be. Give it some real stakes. But it won't be better than The Dark Knight or Logan. Well, it's not a Swan Song and no one is going to die like in TDK...so IW doesn't have their artificial boosters to fool people the way Logan and TDK did. Also, it isn't a "grounded" film meaning it's an automatic turn-off to the Academy. Thankfully the rest of the MCU has elevated the genre's respectability enough that it'll still be a hit with critics and the audience. Dude WTF did Heath Ledger do to you? Every time he's brought up you either bash him or mock him for being dead. The guy gave a damn good performance and unfortunately passed away before he even got to see the final cut of the film.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 30, 2017 10:54:57 GMT
Well, it's not a Swan Song and no one is going to die like in TDK...so IW doesn't have their artificial boosters to fool people the way Logan and TDK did. Also, it isn't a "grounded" film meaning it's an automatic turn-off to the Academy. Thankfully the rest of the MCU has elevated the genre's respectability enough that it'll still be a hit with critics and the audience. Dude WTF did Heath Ledger do to you? Every time he's brought up you either bash him or mock him for being dead. The guy gave a damn good performance and unfortunately passed away before he even got to see the final cut of the film. Nothing, he just need to find excuses for the fact that comic book movies that are not part of the MCU are getting praise
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Post by scabab on Nov 30, 2017 11:19:16 GMT
Avengers Age of Ultron had a pretty dark and ominous trailer as well though and people were excited about it. Then they were disappointed when the movie came out because it was full of humour and one liners.
So it's not like Infinity Wars trailer was new to this. I doubt though that it will happen again considering the directors.
It does look fantastic, no it's not going to be as good as The Dark Knight, none of them ever will be again but it's got a good chance of being the best Avengers or even MCU movie.
Outside of all the excitement of seeing all these characters though, it does seem to involve another portal thing in the sky, which has been done to death along with the The Avengers having a big battle with some enemy horde which they already did in the last movies with the Chitari and the Ultron Sentries.
So I'm hoping it's not just going to be the same thing a third time but just with more Marvel characters.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 11:51:41 GMT
It does look fantastic, no it's not going to be as good as The Dark Knight, none of them ever will be again but it's got a good chance of being the best Avengers or even MCU movie. This shit is part of what I hate in regards to DC vs Marvel. I understand that you're an Admin and I have no issue with what you do but this just shows your favoritism. (Fuck me if somebody like Weirdraptor likes this or something because I hate you all the same) but in what way qualifies you to make such a statement? It's this culture that because Heath Ledger was so great (My favorite comic book performance ever and MADE The Dark Knight for me) means that nothing can equal it. You say it looks fantastic but you immediately have to try and discredit it because to you it won't ever equal The Dark Knight. This whole fan war is stupid but honestly this post to me hurts more so than it does help. To me your post is trying to tell the MCU fans that this film won't be as good as The Dark Knight. Fine, that can be your opinion. However the mods want to try and judge posters intent. Your post tells me that your intent was to try and tell MCU fans that nothing they do will be as good as The Dark Knight. Kind of seems like trolling just the same as other posts people make trying to "prove a damn opinion as being better". So to me, I'd say stop acting like you are the solution and instead you seem part of the problem. The whole war is stupid but you seem to show your own bias so in my mind you're not not the solution. The Dark Knight was great, one of the best ever IMO. I'm so sick and tired of people treating their opinion as fact including yours. Just because RT Score is higher does not equal fact, nor does Audience score, or IMDB score, or anything. In your mind The Dark Knight being better than a film you have yet to see does not equal fact. None of them will ever be as good? You're not helping the situation. I fully expect this post to end up deleted. Sucks because I'm not insulting anyone but instead creating a conversation. I hate this shit so much so when I see something like this I feel the need to call it out.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 30, 2017 12:05:02 GMT
Avengers Age of Ultron had a pretty dark and ominous trailer as well though and people were excited about it. Then they were disappointed when the movie came out because it was full of humour and one liners. So it's not like Infinity Wars trailer was new to this. I doubt though that it will happen again considering the directors. It does look fantastic, no it's not going to be as good as The Dark Knight, none of them ever will be again but it's got a good chance of being the best Avengers or even MCU movie. Outside of all the excitement of seeing all these characters though, it does seem to involve another portal thing in the sky, which has been done to death along with the The Avengers having a big battle with some enemy horde which they already did in the last movies with the Chitari and the Ultron Sentries. So I'm hoping it's not just going to be the same thing a third time but just with more Marvel characters. Maybe. Maybe not. There's always a possibility that Marvel Studios could release a CBM that surpasses The Dark Knight. Just like fox could or even the DCEU.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 30, 2017 12:33:31 GMT
Well, it's not a Swan Song and no one is going to die like in TDK...so IW doesn't have their artificial boosters to fool people the way Logan and TDK did. Also, it isn't a "grounded" film meaning it's an automatic turn-off to the Academy. Thankfully the rest of the MCU has elevated the genre's respectability enough that it'll still be a hit with critics and the audience. Dude WTF did Heath Ledger do to you? Every time he's brought up you either bash him or mock him for being dead. The guy gave a damn good performance and unfortunately passed away before he even got to see the final cut of the film. I honestly didn't think much of the character to begin with and felt his writing was lazy. So when it kept getting shoved in my face how unbelievable he was I just got sick of it and realized that it's all mainly tied to him dying, which made people feel sorry for him and augmented the movie as a whole.
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Post by Lee on Nov 30, 2017 12:43:47 GMT
In other words, you're just disrespectful.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 30, 2017 12:45:09 GMT
In other words, you're just disrespectful. Only if you can't handle the greater truth. I feel bad he died, but I'm not gonna ignore that his death was exploited by the film.
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