While MCU is playing Chess, DC is playing Chutes & Ladders

Then you'll surely hate Infinity War since Feige said that Thanos is the main character in that

Oh don't misunderstand, it was just my opinion after all and my comment was mainly just in response to what Dennis Reynolds, King Kong Brady and formersamhmd were discussing rather than me randomly bringing up the movie just to discredit Infinity War.

Batman as a character is stoic and brooding.  His persona goes hand in hand with his costume and he doesn't have any larger than life superpowers.  He's riveting but not dynamic as a personality.  To counterbalance this, his best villains are always bombastic and over the top, and from a cinematic point of view-- scene stealing.  That formula works perfectly for the character.  The unstoppable force-- the villain; the chaos of the Joker-- vs. the immovable object-- the hero's resolve, which is a huge selling point with Batman due to his lack of superpowers, which can't be overstated as a factor in the medium of superhero storytelling.  The fate of the world is not in the balance; the story is more personal.  More grounded.  It's a perfect storm of narrative elements that lead Batman villains (the best ones anyway) to dominate the story more often than not.   



One of the problems WB/DC has is thinking all CBMs work the way Batman stories do.  The problem is they don't know how to make their villains (outside of Joker, to be honest) interesting, so they just make their heroes bland by comparison.  Always frowning.  Always brooding.  Always trying to be Batman.  They finally hit a home run with Wonder Woman, only to give her some of the hammiest villains you're ever going to see onscreen.  But you know what?  It was a price I was willing to pay because I'm there to see Wonder Woman, not Ares. 



That's why I gave them a pass with Justice League.  Steppenwolf is the ultimate stock villain, but I was happy to finally see DC heroes who wanted to be heroes!  Don't try to humanize a clown like Steppenwolf and don't try to turn the  JL into the X-Men, always complaining about how nobody likes them.  The X-Men are outcasts for a reason.  You chose to be heroes, now go be heroes.  They got it right this time around, thankfully.

Which is why I've always seen him as less a character, more an archetype. We could be getting great stories driven by the internal conflicts he could have with Alfred and Lucius Fox and Gordon but no one ever bothers.



Agree, although it isn't helped by Superman not having a great Rogues' Gallery to begin with.




Frankly, she doesn't have a great Rogues Gallery either. But Steve Trevor made up for that by being a great supporting character. Although Diana seems to be a bit flat as a character herself, at least she got more than Superman did.

Like I said, we need to wait.

Although I'm very much looking forward to BP.

It looks interesting, and i trust Coogler, it's just that i'm much more pumped for IW. And i really hope they work some more on the CGI on Thanos

The thing is, the more powerful a character is, the harder it is to find a compatible villain.  Honestly that's why I've never been a Superman fan, anyway.  He's a one man Justice League, I don't know why he needs a team.



There was plenty of internal conflict in Nolan's Batfilms.  They were the lifeblood of that franchise, it's what lifted BB and TDK to crime drama status for me, not mere action films.  Of course TDKR was total crap but Nolan was bowing to studio pressure when he made it anyway.  



In a lot of ways Diana is the ultimate archetype, I mean she's an ancient warrior god.  Complexity isn't going to be that character's strong suit.  No family drama, no insecurities, no daily stress.  It's tough to build frailties into a character like that.

The Dark Knight is not a DCEU film. It is a Nolan film. People seem to forget this. Sure, they were great movies, but the DCEU has proven so far that they cannot make a movie near that caliber. The MCU, on the other hand, has made The Avengers, The Winter Soldier, and Iron Man, which are all very good movies in their own right.

Nolan's Batman wasn't her interesting....Nolan fell into the trap of making the villains the real stars of his movies.