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Post by politicidal on Dec 9, 2017 18:52:08 GMT
Nah, people are just waking up and realizing Singer's way is outdated.
Fox knows it too, it's why they're selling.
Come on, Apocalypse wasn't even that bad. Hell it was better than Thor The Dark World, Iron Man 2-3 and Age of Ultron. Agreed; it's a 6/10 for me. Just another OK movie turned casualty in the fan wars. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 18:52:42 GMT
Nah, people are just waking up and realizing Singer's way is outdated.
Fox knows it too, it's why they're selling.
Come on, Apocalypse wasn't even that bad. Hell it was better than Thor The Dark World, Iron Man 2-3 and Age of Ultron. It was better than Dark World and IM2, but not AOU and IM3. |
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Post by summers8 on Dec 9, 2017 18:53:51 GMT
Nah, people are just waking up and realizing Singer's way is outdated.
Fox knows it too, it's why they're selling.
Come on, Apocalypse wasn't even that bad. Hell it was better than Thor The Dark World, Iron Man 2-3 and Age of Ultron. true, true, true. But this is X-Men. the standard is high, unrealistically too high now thanks to Logan. only the nolan movies is at that high standard. It is reason critics, fans , everyone don’t pamper the x-men movies they way they do with Thor The Dark World, Iron Man 2-3 and Age of Ultron. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 18:56:20 GMT
True for Dark World and IM2, False for the rest. No, it's just outdated. It relies too much on past successes rather than staying relevant. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 9, 2017 19:03:33 GMT
Come on, Apocalypse wasn't even that bad. Hell it was better than Thor The Dark World, Iron Man 2-3 and Age of Ultron. true, true, true. But this is X-Men. the standard is high, unrealistically too high now thanks to Logan. only the nolan movies is at that high standard. It is reason critics, fans , everyone don’t pamper the x-men movies they way they do with Thor The Dark World, Iron Man 2-3 and Age of Ultron. I don't know if I agree with the standard comment. The Last Stand and Wolverine Origins were terrible and many thought that X3 killed the franchise, similar to how many thought Batman and Robin film killed the Batman franchise until Nolan saved it. Hell it took a prequel breath life into it again. |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 9, 2017 19:15:12 GMT
Apocalypse was at least a credible threat unlike kiddy Ultron.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 19:18:06 GMT
Apocalypse was at least a credible threat unlike kiddy Ultron. Not really, he gave pompous self-important speeches but that's typical for FoX-Men plus once Phoenix came into play there was no way for the X-men to lose. You just went into AOU hoping Ultron would devastate the world or slaughter most of the cast or something. At least the MCU puts their heroes in real danger as opposed to FoX-Men. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 9, 2017 19:22:22 GMT
They didn't do Age of Apocalypse, though. It was more based off the stories in X-Factor. Even if they were going for AoA, that would have been wrong to do. AoA was just a bigger version of DoFP. never read the comics as usual. so more shit talking, the only way to ever have a conversation with mcu fanboys. yikes. AOA was another alternate reality tale in the many timelines of alternate realties marvel comics has. but it was nothing like DOFP in story. sorry but that is fact. Something that was like DOFP, was the ultron story arc in the 2000s but an inferior version of the DOFP story of the 80s. Age of Apocalypse was a story where Legion went back in time to kill Magneto before he became evil and the X-men had to stop him, but he killed Xavier instead. This caused Legion not to be born and the X-men not to be a thing in time to stop Apocalypse from taking over. So far it's basically Mystique killing Kelly and causing the Sentinel future. Bishop (this stories version of Kate Pryde) is the only one to know the the timeline is wrong. The X-men (now named after Xavier and not for eXtra) has to use the M'Kraan crystal that Gambit steals to go back in time and right the timeline. Basically Days of Future Past. Everything else is world building. The series itself was made into a couple episodes in the 90s cartoon called One Man's Worth. The thing you don't understand is that Age of Apocalypse is my favorite X-men story ever. It gave us Nate Grey who was probably one of my favorite characters at the time. And Joe Madureira is my favorite comic book artist. Dude, you don't know me. |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 9, 2017 19:24:38 GMT
Apocalypse was at least a credible threat unlike kiddy Ultron. Not really, he gave pompous self-important speeches but that's typical for FoX-Men plus once Phoenix came into play there was no way for the X-men to lose. You just went into AOU hoping Ultron would devastate the world or slaughter most of the cast or something. At least the MCU puts their heroes in real danger as opposed to FoX-Men. His style has always been arrogant and pompous. But away from his speech, he actually killed people in gruesome ways, wiped out Cairo and its inhabitants and single handledly toyed with all the xmen including Magneto when he betrayed him. Ultron shows nothing in comparison, heck Wanda caused more disorder between the Avengers. The Avengers were telling jokes whilst beating up senseless Ultron clones whilst Xavier and co were fighting for their lives from their visible reactions. STAKES. And Visions infinity gem is the same overpowered weapon as Phoenix. The dark themed trailer for AoU was the biggest false advertising ive seen in a while. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 9, 2017 19:26:22 GMT
I will say this about Fox Studios:
They definitely deserve some respect for the X-Men movies, especially since if it wasn't for the Original X-Men movie, we wouldn't have Chris Nolan Batman films.
They had their ups (X2, First Class, DOFP, Deadpool and Logan) and their downs (X3, Wolverine Origins and The Wolverine). But they played a important part of the CBM subgenre.
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Post by charzhino on Dec 9, 2017 19:29:29 GMT
I will say this about Fox Studios: They definitely deserve some respect for the X-Men movies, especially since if it wasn't for the Original X-Men movie, we wouldn't have Chris Nolan Batman films. They had their ups (X2, First Class, DOFP, Deadpool and Logan) and their downs (X3, Wolverine Origins and The Wolverine). But they played a important part of the CBM subgenre. I wouldnt say The Wolverine was a down. It was recieved generally well and once again Fox gave us something completely different from the usual comic book movie genre with its Japanese-Yakuza story. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 9, 2017 19:33:27 GMT
I will say this about Fox Studios: They definitely deserve some respect for the X-Men movies, especially since if it wasn't for the Original X-Men movie, we wouldn't have Chris Nolan Batman films. They had their ups (X2, First Class, DOFP, Deadpool and Logan) and their downs (X3, Wolverine Origins and The Wolverine). But they played a important part of the CBM subgenre. I wouldnt say The Wolverine was a down. It was recieved generally well and once again Fox gave us something completely different from the usual comic book movie genre with its Japanese-Yakuza story. I personally was disappointed in it, especially since they turned Silver Samurai into a transformer and didn't make it R rated. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 19:52:27 GMT
His style has always been arrogant and pompous. But away from his speech, he actually killed people in gruesome ways, wiped out Cairo and its inhabitants and single handledly toyed with all the xmen including Magneto when he betrayed him. And then as soon as Phoenix showed up (as we all knew she would) it was all undone and there were no consequences to anything. His prophecy about how she'd destroy them from the inside came true, ironically. Nope, no stakes. Phoenix was their unbeatable superweapon. Which they smartly have kept him from unlocking its full power. The saltiness is strong with this one. |
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Post by summers8 on Dec 9, 2017 20:28:37 GMT
A ge of Apocalypse was a story where Legion went back in time to kill Magneto before he became evil and the X-men had to stop him, but he killed Xavier instead. This caused Legion not to be born and the X-men not to be a thing in time to stop Apocalypse from taking over. So far it's basically Mystique killing Kelly and causing the Sentinel future. Bishop (this stories version of Kate Pryde) is the only one to know the the timeline is wrong. The X-men (now named after Xavier and not for eXtra) has to use the M'Kraan crystal that Gambit steals to go back in time and right the timeline. Basically Days of Future Past. Everything else is world building. The series itself was made into a couple episodes in the 90s cartoon called One Man's Worth. The thing you don't understand is that Age of Apocalypse is my favorite X-men story ever. It gave us Nate Grey who was probably one of my favorite characters at the time. And Joe Madureira is my favorite comic book artist. Dude, you don't know me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, um, by story and English language understanding i highlighted the part where common sense tells us they are different and also what you said is plain wrong but you can see more facts here..below. the fact to erase the shit as usual. only 90% similar. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Future_Pasten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Apocalypseand ofcourse all the characters everyine changes drastically ironic, Ultron 2000s was similar to DOFP but inferior how do you feel about that? does that also mean avengers 3 is the same as avengers 1 and 2? because of avengers fighting another big bad invasion and an alien is a threat like thanos and loki and he will come from the sky? I mean they must be the same movies to you . Even though they will be as it is an mcu movie and they are all the same anyway. yikes, At least this latest shit is not as bad as... deadpool was trying to be like an mcu movie when the director of deadpool hates mcu movies as he said .lol. has that sunk in or is there another twist to overturn what tim miller said to make him an mcu fanboy? this is something bigger, not that i care about this movie but if it has mcu fanboys riled up then i should take some interest. the next mcu movie will have vfx and world city destruction and be fun ...so another comedy trash down marvel film like age of ultron and gotg 2 and iron man 3 . dark phoenix wants to go all serious, story and character driven. which by logic means, it may be better than the next mcu movie,. yike, i might have some interest now. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 20:44:50 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Future_Pasten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Apocalypseironic, Ultron 2000s was similar to DOFP but inferior how do you feel about that? yikes, At least this latest shit is not as bad as... deadpool was trying to be like an mcu movie when the director of deadpool hates mcu movies as he said .lol. has that sunk in or is there another twist to overturn what tim miller said to make him an mcu fanboy? this is something bigger, not that i care about this movie but if it has mcu fanboys riled up then i should take some interest. the next mcu movie will have vfx and world city destruction and be fun ...so another comedy trash down marvel film like age of ultron and gotg 2 and iron man 3 . dark phoenix wants to go all serious, story and character driven. which by logic means, it may be better than the next mcu movie,. yike, i might have some interest now. The comic Age of Ultron was better actually. The comic DOFP is overrated, it's more remembered for the first time since the first Sentinels story that the Sentinels were treated like a threat.
The Deadpool Director doesn't hate the MCU movies.
The next MCU movie is Black Panther, so it's automatically going to be better than Dark Phoenix.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 9, 2017 20:47:40 GMT
Apocalypse was at least a credible threat unlike kiddy Ultron. One thing with ultron, part of his modern story was the same as DOFP from the 80s in the comics. wonder why they never made the movie like that. yikes, how the heck can this movie rile up mcu fan boys to instant shitting. lol and it aint new mutants or deadpool 2 that are the more unique comic films. |
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Post by summers8 on Dec 9, 2017 21:11:51 GMT
I will say this about Fox Studios: They definitely deserve some respect for the X-Men movies, especially since if it wasn't for the Original X-Men movie, we wouldn't have Chris Nolan Batman films. They had their ups (X2, First Class, DOFP, Deadpool and Logan) and their downs (X3, Wolverine Origins and The Wolverine). But they played a important part of the CBM subgenre. sadly it is an important part mcu movies have tried to ruin with their comedy jokey zero plotted vfx movies. thank god for Logan this year. the genre would not have survived if it was only thor 3, homecoming, gotg 2. yes there was wonder woman but it is a female thing. The first of its kind. ha, I think this is why some are scared . no vfx and world destruction . they know that is what infinity war will be. many film directors will hate it the way they do with mcu movies, critics will tell us to live our brains at the door and just enjoy it and have fun. This movie i have no faith in can be different in 2018. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 9, 2017 21:13:54 GMT
A ge of Apocalypse was a story where Legion went back in time to kill Magneto before he became evil and the X-men had to stop him, but he killed Xavier instead. This caused Legion not to be born and the X-men not to be a thing in time to stop Apocalypse from taking over. So far it's basically Mystique killing Kelly and causing the Sentinel future. Bishop (this stories version of Kate Pryde) is the only one to know the the timeline is wrong. The X-men (now named after Xavier and not for eXtra) has to use the M'Kraan crystal that Gambit steals to go back in time and right the timeline. Basically Days of Future Past. Everything else is world building. The series itself was made into a couple episodes in the 90s cartoon called One Man's Worth. The thing you don't understand is that Age of Apocalypse is my favorite X-men story ever. It gave us Nate Grey who was probably one of my favorite characters at the time. And Joe Madureira is my favorite comic book artist. Dude, you don't know me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, um, by story and English language understanding i highlighted the part where common sense tells us they are different and also what you said is plain wrong but you can see more facts here..below. the fact to erase the shit as usual. only 90% similar. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Future_Pasten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Apocalypseand ofcourse all the characters everyine changes drastically ironic, Ultron 2000s was similar to DOFP but inferior how do you feel about that? does that also mean avengers 3 is the same as avengers 1 and 2? yikes, At least this latest shit is not as bad as... deadpool was trying to be like an mcu movie when the director of deadpool hates mcu movies as he said .lol. has that sunk in or is there another twist to overturn what tim miller said to make him an mcu fanboy? this is something bigger, not that i care about this movie but if it has mcu fanboys riled up then i should take some interest. the next mcu movie will have vfx and world city destruction and be fun ...so another comedy trash down marvel film like age of ultron and gotg 2 and iron man 3 . dark phoenix wants to go all serious, story and character driven. which by logic means, it may be better than the next mcu movie,. yike, i might have some interest now. You really don't know the difference between "exactly the same" and "basically the same" do you? If I say something is basically like something else that means there is a fundamental similarity. AoA and DoFP aren't exactly the same story. What are you 5? And why does Miller have to be a fanboy to understand something? He understands why the MCU works. That's why Deadpool worked. He doesn't have to like something to understand it. He understands the MCU. He understands why the Deadpool comics work. The people behind the MCU understand why the comics work. They all applied that to the movies. The people behind the DCEU and the Fox movies don't understand why the comics work so their movies don't work on that level. There are so many times that these people have been saying that you can't do whatever in a movie. Then you have people like Vaughn and Miller show that you can. And what does Fox learn from that? Make them rated R... Last edit: When we say that Deadpool is an MCU movie, it is not because they are being funny. That's where your mind is. You go straight for the comedy and not what the movie is. You start pointing out that the MCU doesn't have an R-rated movie. That's not the point. If Deadpool (as is) was made into a PG13 movie it would still have that understanding that would make it more like an MCU movie than a Fox X-men movie. |
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Post by summers8 on Dec 9, 2017 21:26:13 GMT
I will say this about Fox Studios: They definitely deserve some respect for the X-Men movies, especially since if it wasn't for the Original X-Men movie, we wouldn't have Chris Nolan Batman films. They had their ups (X2, First Class, DOFP, Deadpool and Logan) and their downs (X3, Wolverine Origins and The Wolverine). But they played a important part of the CBM subgenre. I wouldnt say The Wolverine was a down. It was recieved generally well and once again Fox gave us something completely different from the usual comic book movie genre with its Japanese-Yakuza story. the wolverine had 2 very good arcs and a downer. Weird year for comic films of 2013.
Man of steel
Thor
Iron man 3
The wolverine.The wolverine was the best received and less hated of the bunch. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 9, 2017 21:30:26 GMT
Apocalypse was at least a credible threat unlike kiddy Ultron. One thing with ultron, part of his modern story was the same as DOFP from the 80s in the comics. wonder why they never made the movie like that. yikes, how the heck can this movie rile up mcu fan boys to instant shitting. lol and it aint new mutants or deadpool 2 that are the more unique comic films. Not really, the DOFP comic wasn't that good in actual content. AOU is better.
DP2 will just be more of the same, raunchiness, and New Mutants will bomb.
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