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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:19:41 GMT
awhina Yeah I didn't even bother looking at the Trump rapes his wife thread although it seems to breach TOS as do so many posts on this forum do. And no, of course nothing was done about it. I bet it would be a different story if it was Michele Obama being a crack whore though.
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Post by awhina on Mar 9, 2017 2:20:58 GMT
awhina Yeah I didn't even bother looking at the Trump rapes his wife thread although it seems to breach TOS as do so many posts on this forum do. And no, of course nothing was done about it. I bet it would be a different story if it was Michele Obama being a crack whore though. I am sad but not surprised that nothing was done about it. I have become pretty disillusioned with this board.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Mar 10, 2017 18:57:53 GMT
awhina Yeah I didn't even bother looking at the Trump rapes his wife thread although it seems to breach TOS as do so many posts on this forum do. And no, of course nothing was done about it. I bet it would be a different story if it was Michele Obama being a crack whore though. I am sad but not surprised that nothing was done about it. I have become pretty disillusioned with this board. Trump has admitted to sexually assaulting women and was accused by a former wife of raping her. What is it about trump that causes you to throw all your supposed "feminist" leanings out the window?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 10, 2017 19:00:41 GMT
I don't care.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 10, 2017 20:11:09 GMT
I saw a thread originating from John the Admin dude recently. He mentioned he was tired of the amount of reporting on this board alone. I understand where his frustration as it has to be a thankless job. I am posting this poll for the Admins and moderators to take a look at. This one has to do with hate threads; what I refer to as a hate thread is one that promotes racism, homophobia or sexist thoughts. It could also include outright bullying such as "Do you think poster X should commit suicide because they are a loser?". These things have always been with us as a society but seem to get worse when there are individuals in society who a certain infamy promoting hateful ideas. Some argue that free speech is always paramount above all other things. Consider the Westboro Baptist Church. Some say they are only engaging if in their right to free speech when they protest funerals. So when does their right to free speech not be a free speech issue but become criminal harassment? How about Hitler's anti-Semitism? His ranting encouraged Kristallnact in Germany. Eventually the Holocaust happened. How about Trump's rants about Mexicans and Muslims giving rise to disturbing racial incidents. Just my rambling thoughts. Your poll doesn't really have an option that fits me. There is certainly "hate speech" but I am strongly against prohibiting it or socially penalizing it, and I don't believe that it's categorically bad. If people can't deal with strong negative opinions about them, that's their problem.FYI, hate speech is defined as hate directed towards groups, not individuals. Saying Jews are evil would be hate speech; saying you are evil wouldn't be.
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Post by Admin on Mar 11, 2017 1:24:18 GMT
I saw a thread originating from John the Admin dude recently. He mentioned he was tired of the amount of reporting on this board alone. jackbrock : It seems you misunderstood what I said, despite the fact that I reiterated it several times in that thread. Regarding hate speech, I think the question of what it is should be explored before determining whether or not any given post should be classified as such, not to mention how someone should vote in your poll. We have removed plenty of posts and threads advocating genocide, as well as several threads created for the sole purpose of singling out individual members of this forum. Some of you here in RFS clearly despise atheists as a whole, while others obviously have some issues with all theists. Are these groups too broad to be protected from "hate speech," or is that reserved only for specific subsections? @crypticanomaly : The "Do you think Trump rapes Melania" thread was temporarily moved to a staff-only board and discussed at length. We eventually concluded that it was neither personal or political slander, but rather a popular subject of debate. As one of the moderators here explained:
Edit to add: Before things get weird, I would like to let you all know that the OP self-deleted shortly after this post. So if you see him anywhere claiming to be banned for "challenging authority," you'll know it's a lie. Screen capture of security log here: i.imgur.com/oKYNtCc.png
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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 11, 2017 6:54:18 GMT
I think admins should delete whatever doesn;t fit with the terms and conditions of the site Basically this. I tend to think that the only thing hate speech/threads accomplish is to turn more people against the hateful. The already-hateful will obviously agree with it, so they don't matter; but the neutral will just get to recognize it for what it is and who thinks it. "I'm glad I can count on giant corporations/governments/media to protect the oppressed!"
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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 11, 2017 7:40:36 GMT
FYI, hate speech is defined as hate directed towards groups, not individuals. Saying Jews are evil would be hate speech; saying you are evil wouldn't be. "I hate you and worship the KKK": Love speech Got it. Thanks big brother!
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Post by vernuf on Mar 11, 2017 9:37:34 GMT
FYI, hate speech is defined as hate directed towards groups, not individuals. Saying Jews are evil would be hate speech; saying you are evil wouldn't be. "I hate you and worship the KKK": Love speech Got it. Thanks big brother! Yeah, no one's going to accuse you of intelligence.
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Post by vernuf on Mar 11, 2017 9:39:04 GMT
Basically this. I tend to think that the only thing hate speech/threads accomplish is to turn more people against the hateful. The already-hateful will obviously agree with it, so they don't matter; but the neutral will just get to recognize it for what it is and who thinks it. "I'm glad I can count on giant corporations/governments/media to protect the oppressed!" Ah, the joys of straw men.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 11, 2017 17:16:37 GMT
Basically this. I tend to think that the only thing hate speech/threads accomplish is to turn more people against the hateful. The already-hateful will obviously agree with it, so they don't matter; but the neutral will just get to recognize it for what it is and who thinks it. "I'm glad I can count on giant corporations/governments/media to protect the oppressed!" Nothing in my post said anything about counting on "giant corporations/governments/media to protect the oppressed."
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 11, 2017 17:17:21 GMT
FYI, hate speech is defined as hate directed towards groups, not individuals. Saying Jews are evil would be hate speech; saying you are evil wouldn't be. "I hate you and worship the KKK": Love speech Got it. Thanks big brother! Are you really this stupid or just good at pretending to be?
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Post by general313 on Mar 11, 2017 19:23:00 GMT
"I hate you and worship the KKK": Love speech Got it. Thanks big brother! Are you really this stupid or just good at pretending to be? Maybe Blade made himself a sock account?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 22:56:50 GMT
Admin sounds like a weak excuse and proves you are biased.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 23:04:23 GMT
Define "hate speech".
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Post by Admin on Mar 11, 2017 23:18:25 GMT
Admin sounds like a weak excuse and proves you are biased. All it proves is that you see only what you want to see. Tell me, @crypticanomaly, do you think that thread should be removed? And if so, why? State your case. I'm listening.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 23:22:05 GMT
Admin I think many threads and posts should be removed on here. I don't think you care or understand the negative environment you have helped to create here.
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Post by Admin on Mar 11, 2017 23:39:03 GMT
Admin I think many threads and posts should be removed on here. I don't think you care or understand the negative environment you have helped to create here. I didn't ask about "many threads and posts." I asked about the specific one you brought up in this thread in an apparent attempt to exemplify what you apparently believe is biased moderation. I'll ask only once more: Do you think the thread entitled "Do you think Trump rapes Melania" should be removed? And if so, why?
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Mar 11, 2017 23:39:52 GMT
Basically this. I tend to think that the only thing hate speech/threads accomplish is to turn more people against the hateful. The already-hateful will obviously agree with it, so they don't matter; but the neutral will just get to recognize it for what it is and who thinks it. "I'm glad I can count on giant corporations/governments/media to protect the oppressed!" Oh goody, Mutha's made the journey here.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 12, 2017 0:42:03 GMT
"I'm glad I can count on giant corporations/governments/media to protect the oppressed!" Oh goody, Mutha's made the journey here. This Mutha thing is becoming obsessive with you.
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