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Post by Lynx on Jan 16, 2018 20:40:45 GMT
Most recently, The Punisher. I thought that was pretty bad. Painfully slow and simply not entertaining. Under the Dome, The Mist, and The Expanse are a few others that I can think of off the top of my head. Oh yes.....I forgot to mention "Under the Dome".... This should have been an 8 part mini-series that told Stephen King's story in that time-frame. If it had, it would have b een excellent. However, the powers-that-be (not Stephen King), decided to cash in on the name and completely ruined the whole story. A damn shame.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 17, 2018 15:04:29 GMT
Most recently, The Punisher. I thought that was pretty bad. Painfully slow and simply not entertaining. Under the Dome, The Mist, and The Expanse are a few others that I can think of off the top of my head. Oh yes.....I forgot to mention "Under the Dome".... This should have been an 8 part mini-series that told Stephen King's story in that time-frame. If it had, it would have b een excellent. However, the powers-that-be (not Stephen King), decided to cash in on the name and completely ruined the whole story. A damn shame. I knew that it had a decent following when it was on, and I was home one day looking for something to watch, so I decided to give it a chance. I watched about four episodes and bailed. I thought it was pretty bad. Felt amateur.
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Post by DarkManX on Jan 17, 2018 17:33:35 GMT
I still like it, but watching this latest "X-Files" mini-season is making me realize more than ever just how nonsensical the overarching conspiracy stuff can get. It's almost like they'll retcon that gobbledygook a few times over the course of an episode now. And what happened to explaining the big cliffhanger from the last mini-season? I thought UFOs were over the D.C. skies and people were being abducted? They showed a moment of that in the "previously on the X-Files" thing before the first episode, but then they seemed to just say, "Nah, screw that. We're going to ignore that we went there." Maybe they'll explain in the next few episodes, but I don't know. The last episode, 11.2--the stuff with the AI/computer simulation Langly--seemed to want to both ignore and acknowledge what happened in 11.1 at the same time . . . at first I thought it must have been set some random time earlier, before the stuff in 11.1 happened, because all of a sudden there's nothing about Scully having seizures or being the hospital and they seem to have zero concern with finding their son, etc. but then it seemed like it was definitely supposed to be after episode 11.1 in the timeline. The overarching mythology stuff was interesting in a way, but the "make it up as we go along and don't worry about what we said before" approach is fairly absurd at this point (noting that I enjoy absurdism). In any event, I was always glad they broke it up with the standalone "monster of the week" episodes. I wish they'd do full seasons again so they could go back to that. Gillian Anderson said she's done, that this is her last season. I love the X-Files (it came before Star Trek for me) but I hope it ends or they decide to just reboot the series. Chris Carter seems to have forgotten what the show was even about, or maybe he just doesn't care anymore. They explained it. It was all just a dream, a vision that Scully had. They essentially copped out because they wrote themselves into a corner.
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Post by DarkManX on Feb 18, 2018 4:35:55 GMT
"Salem" started out good, then went south "The Following".....same thing "Quantico", was too confusing with all the flashbacks If you go back a number of years....."Sliders" was a good series....until it went stupid (must have had new writers) In season 3 of Sliders, Fox took control and put in a new Executive Producer who was a company man and did whatever the studio told him to. It's why all of those episodes had plots from movies and where the show really started to go downhill. I had a hard time sitting through it from that point on and I couldn't finish season 5.
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Post by Morgana on Feb 19, 2018 20:03:07 GMT
You just think are not any good. But i'm talking about current shows or from recent years though. Anytime between 2008 and 2017. The Mist Stranger Things Downton Abbey Under the Dome Legion American Horror Story Fear the Walking Dead Star Trek: Discovery Mr. Robot
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Post by Morgana on Feb 19, 2018 20:06:32 GMT
The Affair Bloodline Penny Dreadful The Final Girls Millions Utopia Fargo Black Mirror Downton Abbey Breaking Bad Hell On Wheels How can anyone not like Penny Dreadful? It is a masterpiece of writing, acting, and visuals.
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Post by deembastille on Feb 19, 2018 20:15:05 GMT
You just think are not any good. But i'm talking about current shows or from recent years though. Anytime between 2008 and 2017. The Mist Stranger Things Downton Abbey Under the Dome Legion American Horror Story Fear the Walking Dead Star Trek: Discovery Mr. Robot how can anyone not like American horror story? it's a masterpiece in writing, acting and visuals.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 19, 2018 21:03:36 GMT
Star Trek DS9 and Enterprise left me bored rigid. But I have a question; has any Stateside Sci fi fan, I mean a real committed fan, given Dr Who , classic or New Who, a go because i t's the longest running Sci fi show in the world, and given up on it. It just wasn't for you. If so do you care? Do you feel you SHOULD like it and are missing out. Or is it just overrated ?Is it the longest-running sci-fi show in the world? I’ve heard that “old Who” and “new Who” are not, in fact, the same show, which I didn’t know until I asked about it. Believe it or not, I still haven’t seen “old Who,” but I do want to watch an episode or two one of these days, as it was written by the same people who did what is probably my favorite television program, The Avengers (the British television series, of course, not the superhero team). Some of the plots and concepts, moreover, seem right up my alley; “The Dæmons” (S8:E5), “Horror of Fang Rock” (S15:E1), “The Talons of Weng-Chiang” (S14:E6), and “Ghost Light” (S26:E2) all seem particularly intriguing. I have, unfortunately, seen “new Who,” and I think it’s atrocious (at least—of what I’ve seen). I was shocked at how bad the acting was, how phony the sets and special effects looked, how contrived the stories were… It doesn’t help that I’m not a fan of showrunner Steven Moffat, I suppose, but I simply disliked what I saw. The actor playing Dr. Who himself was so goddam annoying that I almost thought I couldn’t bear it. When I read an essay on it, too, which an acquaintance of mine wrote (it’s here, archived, but you’ll have to scroll down—“The Age of the Sex Olympics IV” is the heading), I was turned off the modern show for good. (May I be persuaded to give it another chance? Sure, maybe one day, but not any time soon.) Oh, dear. That’s all much ado about nothing, probably…
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Post by deembastille on Feb 19, 2018 21:16:13 GMT
Star Trek DS9 and Enterprise left me bored rigid. But I have a question; has any Stateside Sci fi fan, I mean a real committed fan, given Dr Who , classic or New Who, a go because i t's the longest running Sci fi show in the world, and given up on it. It just wasn't for you. If so do you care? Do you feel you SHOULD like it and are missing out. Or is it just overrated ?Is it the longest-running sci-fi show in the world? I’ve heard that “old Who” and “new Who” are not, in fact, the same show, which I didn’t know until I asked about it. Believe it or not, I still haven’t seen “old Who,” but I do want to watch an episode or two one of these days, as it was written by the same people who did what is probably my favorite television program, The Avengers (the British television series, of course, not the superhero team). Some of the plots and concepts, moreover, seem right up my alley; “The Dæmons” (S8:E5), “Horror of Fang Rock” (S15:E1), “The Talons of Weng-Chiang” (S14:E6), “Ghost Light” (S26:E2) seems particularly intriguing. I have, unfortunately, seen “new Who,” and I think it’s atrocious (at least—of what I’ve seen). I was shocked at how bad the acting was, how phony the sets and special effects looked, how contrived the stories were… It doesn’t help that I’m not a fan of showrunner Steven Moffat, I suppose, but I simply disliked what I saw. The actor playing Dr. Who himself was so goddam annoying that I almost thought I couldn’t bear it. When I read this essay on it, too, which an acquaintance of mine wrote (it’s here, archived, but you’ll have to scroll down—“The Age of the Sex Olympics IV” is the heading), I was turned off the modern show for good. (May I be persuaded to give it another chance? Sure, maybe one day, but not any time soon.) Oh, dear. That’s all much ado about nothing, probably… it's not about how long an IDEA has been out there, but about the version of the idea. keep in mind The Original Star Trek was just STAR TREK until 1987 when they 'got it right' and came up with TNG. then they had deep space nine and voyager then enterprise then this discovery show. they really don't emulate or bleed from one show into the next. they are all separate entities and time lines.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 19, 2018 21:21:17 GMT
deembastille Got it, but Star Trek and its sequel shows (I’ve only seen the original series and a few minutes of the Patrick Stewart one, which I didn’t really like) are, in fact, different programs, no? And, similarly, so are “old Who” and “new Who,” I take it. The only thing they have in common is the “universe” and the generalities (time-travelling alien in phone booth goes on adventures).
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Post by Vegas on Feb 19, 2018 21:22:24 GMT
The Mist
Fear The Walking Dead
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Post by Morgana on Feb 20, 2018 7:29:13 GMT
The Mist Stranger Things Downton Abbey Under the Dome Legion American Horror Story Fear the Walking Dead Star Trek: Discovery Mr. Robot how can anyone not like American horror story? it's a masterpiece in writing, acting and visuals. Acting? Perhaps. Visuals? Perhaps. Writing? No way.
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 12:43:56 GMT
morgana, you said the same thing about another show. words and all. just playing devils advocate.
the writing is amazing in AHS. no two seasons are the same.
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Post by Morgana on Feb 20, 2018 15:55:57 GMT
morgana, you said the same thing about another show. words and all. just playing devils advocate. the writing is amazing in AHS. no two seasons are the same. What other show? Please remind me. But honestly, in my opinion, AHS hasn't been good for the past two or three seasons. Penny Dreadful is (was) a tour de force of what television should be, again, in my opinion. The acting was superb, as was the writing.
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 16:20:49 GMT
morgana, you said the same thing about another show. words and all. just playing devils advocate. the writing is amazing in AHS. no two seasons are the same. What other show? Please remind me. But honestly, in my opinion, AHS hasn't been good for the past two or three seasons. Penny Dreadful is (was) a tour de force of what television should be, again, in my opinion. The acting was superb, as was the writing. ?? that is the other show. someone mentioned how they tried watching PD but couldn't get through it. and here you are saying how wonderful it is. that's fine. but then you say how AHS is not and you question [kind of snotty] how anyone could not like PD. to each his own. to be honest, AHS 1st season was their weakest.
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Post by DarkManX on Feb 20, 2018 16:31:08 GMT
The Mist Stranger Things Downton Abbey Under the Dome Legion American Horror Story Fear the Walking Dead Star Trek: Discovery Mr. Robot how can anyone not like American horror story? it's a masterpiece in writing, acting and visuals. I had to force myself to finish the first season of American Horror Story. It wasn't scary, the characters were uninteresting, and the story was completely nonsensical. I didn't watch any further seasons.
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 17:04:25 GMT
how can anyone not like American horror story? it's a masterpiece in writing, acting and visuals. I had to force myself to finish the first season of American Horror Story. It wasn't scary, the characters were uninteresting, and the story was completely nonsensical. I didn't watch any further seasons. i understand. the first season was by far the worst season they had. boring and annoying people playing boring and annoying characters. however, they kept the good ones [most of them] and no two seasons are the same. 1: current time, murder house, bitch mother and daughter. 2: 1950's insane asylum. 3: current time, new Orleans, witchcraft with bitch daughter from MH, other than that good. 4: 1950's freak show/carnival folk. 5: current time, hotel similar to stories from Cecil Hotel: where elisa lam went off her meds. 6: Roanoke: delves from current time to flashbacks: idk. i tried watching this and i thought it would be good since Roanoke is a weird place IRL [two failed colonies in the 15-600s that just plain vanished]. i like 2,3,5 and will watch 4.
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Post by Morgana on Feb 20, 2018 17:42:44 GMT
What other show? Please remind me. But honestly, in my opinion, AHS hasn't been good for the past two or three seasons. Penny Dreadful is (was) a tour de force of what television should be, again, in my opinion. The acting was superb, as was the writing. ?? that is the other show. someone mentioned how they tried watching PD but couldn't get through it. and here you are saying how wonderful it is. that's fine. but then you say how AHS is not and you question [kind of snotty] how anyone could not like PD. to each his own. to be honest, AHS 1st season was their weakest. You are mistaken. I have never said anything other than how much I loved PD. I loved it from the first episode, and through to the (for me, very sad) last episode. But, as you said, to each his own.
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 17:45:25 GMT
?? that is the other show. someone mentioned how they tried watching PD but couldn't get through it. and here you are saying how wonderful it is. that's fine. but then you say how AHS is not and you question [kind of snotty] how anyone could not like PD. to each his own. to be honest, AHS 1st season was their weakest. You are mistaken. I have never said anything other than how much I loved PD. I loved it from the first episode, and through to the (for me, very sad) last episode. But, as you said, to each his own. you are the one whose mistaken. i never said you didn't say you loved PD. i was just using your words regarding pd against you in regards to you questioning ahs. i am fully fine with others liking a show i dislike or disliking a show i like. but don't use 'wonderful writing' or whatever as an example when i could use that in regards to my favorite shows.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 3:02:42 GMT
Modern Family
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