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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 27, 2017 8:25:04 GMT
Now hate maybe a strong word but these folks have less then faltering things to say about mcu movies or comic book movies today thanks to mcu movies. Let me just count a few. James Mangold
John Landis
Tim Miller
George RR Martin
Christopher Nolan
Chris Pine
Alan Taylor
Cillian Murphy
David Fincher
Mathew Vaughn
Mickey Rouke
Simon Pegg
Martin Scoresese
Wally Pfister
Ava DuVernay (original planned director of black panther but said no because she did not want to.... in her own words just make a movie that is ''exciting action, fun, all those things'',) she wanted real serious drama about a black hero..
Luc Besson
Ridley Scott
And now maybe even RDJ that has said playing iron man is getting embarrassing.
www.cbr.com/robert-downey-jr-retire-from-marvel-embarrassing/
Usually i have heard delusional comments from some mcu fanboys that most of them are just jealous and haters? lol . but really? could it be that they don't like MCU because MCU movies are cgi soulless co-operate Disney products with no true film artistic integrity.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 27, 2017 8:27:12 GMT
MCU movies contradict xmen stories. MCU movies don't even have the substance of X-Men TAS. mcu is a cancer to cinema. in the early and mid 2000s, the genre had more credibility. only extreme mcu fans think so, since they don't read comics. there is nothing in DOFP that ripped of T2. everything in DOFP was present in the comics 11 years or more before T2 was made. this is as factual as trump is president. mcu fans hate DOFP movie because it makes avengers look dumb. the airport scene in civil war was jokes not to mention the horrendous cinematography its not a one man's opinion, many film artists there do not take mcu movies seriously I was not trying to convince anyone MCU sucks, Nolan and his buddies have already convinced everybody not living under the disney marvel bubble. Only a blind MCU hating fanatic would say MCU movies don't have substance. The only cancer around here is you using that word to describe the MCU and for some odd reason coming back to this board with some new article just to belittle MCU fans. On top of that you are way to aggressive with your opinion and always treat it like a fact. If you actually read the reviews rather than the headlines then the reviews actually talk about the movie's substance. DOFP was good but it doesn't make The Avengers look dumb at all it just makes pretentious snobs like yourself assume you're smarter than everybody else as a result making yourself look dumb. Regardless DOFP did take points from T2 while not being nearly as good. The airport scene in Civil War was the only scene with jokes and any normal person wouldn't be so offended by some humor so my advice for you is that you grow a pair. Also the cinematography was fine. Do you understand that those film artists may be in the minority. Again them being a film artists doesn't make their opinion any more credible than yours or mine it's not like they have some sort of degree in film criticism that makes their opinion a fact. I love Nolan but that doesn't mean the MCU sucks Nolan's movies aren't technically superhero movies they're just great movies about superheroes MCU on the other hand are superhero movies with a comic booky tone. They're too different from each other. That doesn't make one better than the other. MCU movies have no substance. MCU movies are crap. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 8:43:48 GMT
I can't here you DC fan.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Dec 27, 2017 8:46:56 GMT
DC-Fan showing once again how “unbiased” he is.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 27, 2017 8:50:31 GMT
MCU movies contradict xmen stories. MCU movies don't even have the substance of X-Men TAS. mcu is a cancer to cinema. in the early and mid 2000s, the genre had more credibility. only extreme mcu fans think so, since they don't read comics. there is nothing in DOFP that ripped of T2. everything in DOFP was present in the comics 11 years or more before T2 was made. this is as factual as trump is president. mcu fans hate DOFP movie because it makes avengers look dumb. the airport scene in civil war was jokes not to mention the horrendous cinematography its not a one man's opinion, many film artists there do not take mcu movies seriously I was not trying to convince anyone MCU sucks, Nolan and his buddies have already convinced everybody not living under the disney marvel bubble. Only a blind MCU hating fanatic would say MCU movies don't have substance. The only cancer around here is you using that word to describe the MCU and for some odd reason coming back to this board with some new article just to belittle MCU fans. On top of that you are way to aggressive with your opinion and always treat it like a fact. If you actually read the reviews rather than the headlines then the reviews actually talk about the movie's substance. DOFP was good but it doesn't make The Avengers look dumb at all it just makes pretentious snobs like yourself assume you're smarter than everybody else as a result making yourself look dumb. Regardless DOFP did take points from T2 while not being nearly as good. The airport scene in Civil War was the only scene with jokes and any normal person wouldn't be so offended by some humor so my advice for you is that you grow a pair. Also the cinematography was fine. Do you understand that those film artists may be in the minority. Again them being a film artists doesn't make their opinion any more credible than yours or mine it's not like they have some sort of degree in film criticism that makes their opinion a fact. I love Nolan but that doesn't mean the MCU sucks Nolan's movies aren't technically superhero movies they're just great movies about superheroes MCU on the other hand are superhero movies with a comic booky tone. They're too different from each other. That doesn't make one better than the other. I am not a blind hating fanatic. I am a fan of film and a long time comic fan that hate how mcu movies treat the genre. Most mcu reviews are for the fun and the funny. had Fox or DC made thor 3 or gotg 2. the reviews would have been a blood bath. DOFP could not have taken points from T2 because DOFP and X-Men comics came out first. you are arguing with the impossible. this is a counter attack mcu fans use because all mcu movies are the same. some of you have refused to use logic. the cinematography in civil war was awful please stop defending it. loot at the truth. Film artists are only a minority to mcu fan boys who live in disney land. the fact that you think the nolan trilogy are not comic book movies is the reason why mcu movies are awful since you dont know comic books from the silver age did grow to be something more than costumes and fighting villains , jokes and fun with hardly any depth or story. interesting that marvel-disney did not get the memo too. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 9:03:46 GMT
Only a blind MCU hating fanatic would say MCU movies don't have substance. The only cancer around here is you using that word to describe the MCU and for some odd reason coming back to this board with some new article just to belittle MCU fans. On top of that you are way to aggressive with your opinion and always treat it like a fact. If you actually read the reviews rather than the headlines then the reviews actually talk about the movie's substance. DOFP was good but it doesn't make The Avengers look dumb at all it just makes pretentious snobs like yourself assume you're smarter than everybody else as a result making yourself look dumb. Regardless DOFP did take points from T2 while not being nearly as good. The airport scene in Civil War was the only scene with jokes and any normal person wouldn't be so offended by some humor so my advice for you is that you grow a pair. Also the cinematography was fine. Do you understand that those film artists may be in the minority. Again them being a film artists doesn't make their opinion any more credible than yours or mine it's not like they have some sort of degree in film criticism that makes their opinion a fact. I love Nolan but that doesn't mean the MCU sucks Nolan's movies aren't technically superhero movies they're just great movies about superheroes MCU on the other hand are superhero movies with a comic booky tone. They're too different from each other. That doesn't make one better than the other. I am not a blind hating fanatic. I am a fan of film and a long time comic fan that hate how mcu movies treat the genre. Most mcu reviews are for the fun and the funny. had Fox or DC made thor 3 or gotg 2. the reviews would have been a blood bath. DOFP could not have taken points from T2 because DOFP and X-Men comics came out first. you are arguing with the impossible. this is a counter attack mcu fans use because all mcu movies are the same. some of you have refused to use logic. the cinematography in civil war was awful please stop defending it. loot at the truth. Film artists are only a minority to mcu fan boys who live in disney land. the fact that you think the nolan trilogy are not comic book movies is the reason why mcu movies are awful since you dont know comic books from the silver age did grow to be something more than costumes and fighting villains , jokes and fun with hardly any depth or story. interesting that marvel-disney did not get the memo too. No you are a blind hating fanatic and now you're in denial. DOFP didn't follow the comics 100% that's why it took points from T2. MCU movies are no similar than X Men movies are from each other. No I will still defend the cinematography as fine but using a video someone else made to prove your point as a fact is proof that you constantly search for validation for your opinion just to satisfy your own insecurities. I am not an MCU fanboy so just shut up with that term. I like DC and X Men but I hate pretentious pricks with a holier than thou atttude like yourself. I don't live in Disneyland but unless you can provide a more names then your argument has little context. No MCU movies are not awful and me considering the Nolan trilogy none comic booky doesn't prove anything. MCU movies have as much substance as the comics they're based on. |
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Post by summers8 on Dec 27, 2017 9:49:49 GMT
Can I say that geoerge takei hated star trek beyond for very imitate personal reasons. it had nothing to do from a professional side. film artists hate mcu because they are poorly made cgi driven movies. Some here are getting highly desperate again. no real xmen fan gets this desperate to defend movies MCU movies. this is another one. not a film artist but a professional WWE wrestler.Shane Helms. moviepilot.com/p/wwe-star-shane-helms-explains-why-justice-league-beats-thor-ragnarok/4533540his words in quote on thor 3 'It wasn’t better than Age of Ultron but waaay better than Ragnarok. That shit was written for 3 year olds. No emotion, no substance, just ha-ha. Every character in the movie was Spider-Man'.he is not wrong. thor comic fans, norse mythlogy fans all said the same thing. we said it because it is true. we do not have to lie like some of you mcu fans. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 9:55:08 GMT
Can I say that geoerge takei hated star trek beyond for very imitate personal reasons. it had nothing to do from a professional side. film artists hate mcu because they are poorly made cgi driven movies. Some here are getting highly desperate again. no real xmen fan gets this desperate to defend movies MCU movies. this is another one. not a film artist but a professional WWE wrestler.Shane Helms. moviepilot.com/p/wwe-star-shane-helms-explains-why-justice-league-beats-thor-ragnarok/4533540his words in quote on thor 3 'It wasn’t better than Age of Ultron but waaay better than Ragnarok. That shit was written for 3 year olds. No emotion, no substance, just ha-ha. Every character in the movie was Spider-Man'.he is not wrong. thor comic fans, norse mythlogy fans all said the same thing. we said it because it is true. we do not have to lie like some of you mcu fans. Look we get it you think you're right in your own personal bubble just go take this to place where someone actually gives a fuck and that is the X Men board. Also the fact that you keep giving links and videos to what other people said is proof you are just desperate for validation in your own futile attempt to prove your opinion as a fact. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 11:09:10 GMT
summers8 is DC-Fan's sock.
Same arguments. Same nonsense.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 27, 2017 11:19:50 GMT
I mean they're entitled to have a opinion.
I like (most) of the MCU films for the same reason I like DC films, Star Wars, Jurassic Park/World, and XMEN films: They're fun dumb movies that served nothing more than escapism.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 27, 2017 12:52:24 GMT
Because MCU movies are crap, not art. If you're ashamed of comics. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 27, 2017 12:55:22 GMT
MCU movies contradict xmen stories. No they don't. X-Men TAS didn't have much to it, it was a very lazy cartoon. [quotemcu is a cancer to cinema.[/quote] No, it's a cancer to people ashamed of comics. DOFP was never that great an actual story, really. A great combo of seriousness and levity. The people joking were the ones who never wanted to fight in the first place. Only the jealous ones. Everybody ashamed of comics to begin with. You don't watch the MCU, you just rely on second hand accounts. |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 27, 2017 12:57:04 GMT
Because theres nothing artistic about the MCU. Pretty simple. If you're into that ashamed, grounded approach instead of something wondrous. For crying out loud, they're going to try and "ground" Dark Phoenix. Lets wait for a trailer. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 27, 2017 12:58:34 GMT
I am not a blind hating fanatic. I am a fan of film and a long time comic fan that hate how mcu movies treat the genre. You hate how the MCU is rightfully showing how backwards Singer's approach is. All aspects of the film. You'd know this if you really read any. Because they'd botch it, they don't know how to do those kinds of movies. The DOFP comic wasn't that great a story to begin with, so they took elements from the Terminator movies for the movie version. One video's opinion. Compared to all the artists who love the MCU. The Nolan movies only worked because at the time there was no real competition. Put them out now, they wouldn't do as well compared to the MCU. |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 27, 2017 12:59:10 GMT
Because theres nothing artistic about the MCU. Pretty simple. Define "artistic". Films that have meaning, nuance, substance, undertones, metaphors and social commentary with a strong dramatic core. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 27, 2017 12:59:19 GMT
Can I say that geoerge takei hated star trek beyond for very imitate personal reasons. it had nothing to do from a professional side. film artists hate mcu because they are poorly made cgi driven movies. Some here are getting highly desperate again. no real xmen fan gets this desperate to defend movies MCU movies. this is another one. not a film artist but a professional WWE wrestler.Shane Helms. moviepilot.com/p/wwe-star-shane-helms-explains-why-justice-league-beats-thor-ragnarok/4533540his words in quote on thor 3 'It wasn’t better than Age of Ultron but waaay better than Ragnarok. That shit was written for 3 year olds. No emotion, no substance, just ha-ha. Every character in the movie was Spider-Man'.he is not wrong. thor comic fans, norse mythlogy fans all said the same thing. we said it because it is true. we do not have to lie like some of you mcu fans. So a Wrestler's opinion means more than a Pro Film Critic? You're really in meltdown mode... |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 27, 2017 13:00:04 GMT
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Post by charzhino on Dec 27, 2017 13:06:44 GMT
Sounds like you wrote that article yourself. And Kinbergs quote is out of context. In his full piece, he said he wanted to return to the emotional drama between characters that was the foundation of the series before Apocalypse, because that film focused too much on special effect theatrics and bombastic storytelling instead of the human "grounded " approach. I dont think we're gonna see Jean travel into space to eat a star and destroy a populated alien planet, but I still expect it to contain galatic stuff like alien invasions and stuff. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 27, 2017 13:09:17 GMT
Sounds like you wrote that article yourself. I didn't, it just shows I'm not alone in my views. It won't. "Grounded" means "Nothing wondrous", just like all the FoX-Men films. Put Simon Kinberg in charge of the Hulk, and the story wouldn't have Bruce Banner transform at all. Hulk would just be his human self with a violent split personality that has nothing to do with Gamma Radiation. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Dec 27, 2017 16:50:44 GMT
I go to the movies very few times a year now. When I do go, I mostly go to see an MCU or Star Wars movie. Why? Because why not? I go to IMAX 3D and want to be entertained. The MCU is better at entertainment than any other movie studio. When I want to see a good film without all of the visual spectacle, I just watch it at home. Why go to the movies for a film like that? It adds nothing to the picture.
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