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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 8, 2017 1:19:39 GMT
I guess it's true. Apparently 'Beauty and the Beast' will have a gay character in it. Is Disney going to far in having a gay character? "There may have been a day in the now distant past, where the preachers and Evangelists would have gotten a nice bump from such histrionics; a time when they may have even convinced some Biblically illiterate, easily suggestible bystanders to go along with them. It may have been sound Church business at one time. But these self-righteous reservoirs are drying up, as the old folks in these communities die out and the buildings themselves grow dormant, with no new converts to fill them. They are quickly become dusty museums of a religious bigotry that thankfully fewer and fewer people feel like practicing. Today these protests are falling on deaf ears, by an educated, technologically connected generation, who see such obsessions with people’s personal plumbing all as much ado about nothing. They have no interest in a Church who doesn’t seem at all burdened to attend to the real suffering in the world, preferring to protest musicals, out terrified teenagers, and police public bathrooms for nonexistent boogeymen. From here.
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Post by Moviefan on Mar 8, 2017 1:52:23 GMT
I have no objection to gay disney characters.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 1:53:02 GMT
I never got what "too far" means in that context.
I mean, what's the danger here? That even kids will wind up thinking of gay people as normal? Oh, the horror!
Just think, if that went on then sooner or later everyone would wind up treating everyone as normal! We'd be in a real pickle then, for sure!
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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 8, 2017 1:57:44 GMT
I never got what "too far" means in that context. I mean, what's the danger here? That even kids will wind up thinking of gay people as normal? Oh, the horror! Just think, if that went on then sooner or later everyone would wind up treating everyone as normal! We'd be in a real pickle then, for sure! Yes, apparently Disney treating gay people as normal is 'going too far' for some people. They didn't even make the gay person the villain!
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 8, 2017 3:29:57 GMT
Plus Russia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 3:42:49 GMT
I haven't paid to see a Disney movie at a theater in many years but have purchased DVDs which may have been involved with their studios. I disagree with any attempts by Hollywood, Disney, or any movie producers pushing the gay agenda. I'm personally sick and tired of political correctness being shoved down my throat. I don't have to agree with politically correct demands, I don't have to conform to its doctrines and dictates. I don't have to put up with that push.
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Post by Marv on Mar 8, 2017 3:42:55 GMT
I welcome a lesbian Belle. Welcome it, I say!
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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 8, 2017 3:55:44 GMT
I haven't paid to see a Disney movie at a theater in many years but have purchased DVDs which may have been involved with their studios. I disagree with any attempts by Hollywood, Disney, or any movie producers pushing the gay agenda. I'm personally sick and tired of political correctness being shoved down my throat. I don't have to agree with politically correct demands, I don't have to conform to its doctrines and dictates. I don't have to put up with that push. Having a gay character is 'pushing a gay agenda'? Were they 'pushing a straight agenda' for all those years when they didn't have a gay character? Your head really is a long way up your ass isn't it?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 8, 2017 4:08:25 GMT
I haven't paid to see a Disney movie at a theater in many years but have purchased DVDs which may have been involved with their studios. I disagree with any attempts by Hollywood, Disney, or any movie producers pushing the gay agenda. I'm personally sick and tired of political correctness being shoved down my throat. I don't have to agree with politically correct demands, I don't have to conform to its doctrines and dictates. I don't have to put up with that push. By your reasoning, I suppose the film is also pushing a beastiality agenda?
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Post by zoilus on Mar 8, 2017 4:23:11 GMT
What idiot could think it 'can turn kids gay'? Are movies with straight couples turning gay people straight? No!
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Post by Sulla on Mar 8, 2017 4:53:29 GMT
I'm sure Disney isn't worried. No Christian boycott of Disney has ever made much of a difference. Good article.
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Post by awhina on Mar 8, 2017 7:08:24 GMT
I never got what "too far" means in that context. I mean, what's the danger here? That even kids will wind up thinking of gay people as normal? Oh, the horror! Just think, if that went on then sooner or later everyone would wind up treating everyone as normal! We'd be in a real pickle then, for sure! Oh come on! Please homosexuals make up your mind - do you want to be special, precious and rare ir do you want to be everyone everywhere? You are not "normal" whatever that means.
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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 8, 2017 9:24:45 GMT
"I'm smart so it doesn't bother me"? Hate to flip the narrative on you, but you look like you're doing your best impression of an ostrich. A gay character must have bothered someone. Someone came up with the idea, and bet millions of dollars on it. Why? How does this sell more tickets?
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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 8, 2017 9:26:32 GMT
What idiot could think it 'can turn kids gay'? Are movies with straight couples turning gay people straight? No! Most people are already straight. You saying Mother Nature is discriminating?
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Post by Marv on Mar 8, 2017 10:15:45 GMT
I never got what "too far" means in that context. I mean, what's the danger here? That even kids will wind up thinking of gay people as normal? Oh, the horror! Just think, if that went on then sooner or later everyone would wind up treating everyone as normal! We'd be in a real pickle then, for sure! Oh come on! Please homosexuals make up your mind - do you want to be special, precious and rare ir do you want to be everyone everywhere? You are not "normal" whatever that means. That's the thing, isn't it? Like almost any large group of people there are some hat wish to be special, some that just want to blend into the background, some that are mean, some nice. With any decent sized group there's really no collective thought. But if you aren't sure what "normal" means, how can you say someone is not? That doesn't make much sense now, does it?
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Post by awhina on Mar 8, 2017 10:21:02 GMT
Oh come on! Please homosexuals make up your mind - do you want to be special, precious and rare ir do you want to be everyone everywhere? You are not "normal" whatever that means. That's the thing, isn't it? Like almost any large group of people there are some hat wish to be special, some that just want to blend into the background, some that are mean, some nice. With any decent sized group there's really no collective thought. But if you aren't sure what "normal" means, how can you say someone is not? That doesn't make much sense now, does it? Seriously what does normal mean? (It is not my word) Are you trying to say that homosexuality is not the loudest most aggressively publicity-seeking political movement of the C21?
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Post by Marv on Mar 8, 2017 10:34:40 GMT
That's what I'm saying. You claim that someone isn't normal but in the same breath you can't even define what normal is. I'm just saying I don't think you have the leverage here regarding this label.
Homosexuality itself is not a political movement, but if you are speaking to the rallies and the organizations that are involved in the interest of the homosexual people then sure. But homosexuals have also been one of the few groups of people that are still oppressed or denied similar rights to heterosexual people in so many countries that how can you blame them?
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Post by awhina on Mar 8, 2017 11:35:25 GMT
That's what I'm saying. You claim that someone isn't normal but in the same breath you can't even define what normal is. I'm just saying I don't think you have the leverage here regarding this label. Homosexuality itself is not a political movement, but if you are speaking to the rallies and the organizations that are involved in the interest of the homosexual people then sure. But homosexuals have also been one of the few groups of people that are still oppressed or denied similar rights to heterosexual people in so many countries that how can you blame them? Homosexuals are simply men with a particular sexual kink. Why sre they any more deserving of special consideration and rights greater than say for foot fetishists or polygamists?
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Post by tickingmask on Mar 8, 2017 11:46:31 GMT
This is an issue, but only because some silly people get frothy wet dreams thinking about how offended religious people will be, when in reality the vast majority simply don't care.
Yes, there will always be protests by a handful of "preachers and evangelists", but these have been falling on deaf ears for *decades*. I recall some obscure evangelist (whose name I promptly forgot) protesting about 'The Lion King' because Pumbaa and Timon were too suggestively portrayed as a gay couple and everybody laughed then. The author of the blog you quote from might well think that what he writes is all a bit of a revelation but, really, it's not.
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Post by Marv on Mar 8, 2017 11:46:53 GMT
There is a great deal of difference between a man loving another man, and a man getting arroused by feet. Fetishes are commonly linked to sexual desires with objects or specific parts of the body whereas a homosexual is attracted to a person of a similar sex. A homosexual man can have a foot fetish, as can a heterosexual man...but a heterosexual man cannot have a homosexual fetish. That just wouldn't make sense.
Polygamy is a whole other bag of worms. But it is also not a fetish, nor a sexuality.
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