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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jan 20, 2018 16:37:42 GMT
One person on this thread is really demonstrating her impeccable logic.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jan 20, 2018 16:43:35 GMT
I dont necessarily think they are dumb and I am not sayign definitely theres no way its real. This isnt meant to offend anyone. U guys got so pissed at me. Regradless of if its your belief or not it is what I believe which just solidifies evry beleif I have and I can see the point. I am not saying its impossible. Thats whY i am saying it again. I justthink its alot of possibility, I have looked at the evidence ,guys!That is my opinion. Never mix meth and shrooms.
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 20, 2018 19:20:31 GMT
You’ve already had your say and stated your opinion. Now kindly let others state theirs. If you want to claim that Trinity is biblical, go right ahead. Your claim cannot be validated because there is in fact no trinity in the Bible. Neither that word nor it’s descr is given in any book, chapter or verse on any translation of canonical scripture. Yes, the Trinity Is in the Holy Bible, particularly in St. Matthew chapter 28, verse 19, & all 3 Persons Of the Trinity are expressly throughout the Bible as God. But they are not described as a trinity. That part is just made up! ANYONE could be included into that trinity if you stretch an interpretation far enough.
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 20, 2018 19:21:18 GMT
An instruction on baptism by the name of three different people is not an indication that all three are equal. At best it argues that all three agree. But they are not equal because the son says that the father is greater than he is. If Only the Father Is God, then Our Lord Jesus Would Have Only Instructed to Baptize in the Name Of the Father. That is a non-sequitur! Why do you believe this?
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Post by johnblutarsky on Jan 20, 2018 19:41:03 GMT
The passage that you mentioned doesn’t state that the three entities are one entity: I could sign a Christmas card with my name, the name of my wife and the name of my kid, but that doesn’t make us one person. Yeah, but, you & your wife are not deities. If the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were different entities, when Our Jesus would Have Only Instructed the Apostles to Baptize in the Name Of the Father. As with most of the stories in the Bible, this is left up to interpretation. Naturally, you’re free to interpret however you wish.
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Post by clusium on Jan 20, 2018 20:12:13 GMT
Yes, the Trinity Is in the Holy Bible, particularly in St. Matthew chapter 28, verse 19, & all 3 Persons Of the Trinity are expressly throughout the Bible as God. But they are not described as a trinity. That part is just made up! ANYONE could be included into that trinity if you stretch an interpretation far enough. Yes, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit IS described as Trinity: 3 Persons in the One True God!!!!
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Post by clusium on Jan 20, 2018 20:13:23 GMT
If Only the Father Is God, then Our Lord Jesus Would Have Only Instructed to Baptize in the Name Of the Father. That is a non-sequitur! Why do you believe this? No. NOT a non-sequitur!!! I believe this, because that is exactly how God Is described in the Holy Bible: One God in 3 Divine Persons!!!!
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 20, 2018 23:00:06 GMT
But they are not described as a trinity. That part is just made up! ANYONE could be included into that trinity if you stretch an interpretation far enough. Yes, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit IS described as Trinity: 3 Persons in the One True God!!! No. NOT a non-sequitur!!! I believe this, because that is exactly how God Is described in the Holy Bible: One God in 3 Divine Persons!!!! Okay. Then show us the passage where it says that! 😉
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Post by clusium on Jan 20, 2018 23:06:56 GMT
Yes, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit IS described as Trinity: 3 Persons in the One True God!!! No. NOT a non-sequitur!!! I believe this, because that is exactly how God Is described in the Holy Bible: One God in 3 Divine Persons!!!! Okay. Then show us the passage where it says that! 😉 St. Matthew chapter 28, verse 19.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jan 20, 2018 23:10:54 GMT
Okay. Then show us the passage where it says that! 😉 St. Matthew chapter 28, verse 19. ^She'll just keep doing this because she is literally incapable of understanding when something doesn't say what she insists it says.
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 20, 2018 23:22:08 GMT
Okay. Then show us the passage where it says that! 😉 St. Matthew chapter 28, verse 19. Sorry, that’s just not what it says. By the way, you literally just used circular reasoning to justify why a passage supposedly says what it doesn’t.
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 20, 2018 23:23:38 GMT
St. Matthew chapter 28, verse 19. ^She'll just keep doing this because she is literally incapable of understanding when something doesn't say what she insists it says. Indeed. I can see that now! She just used a giant circule of logic to close the loop on that passage, lol.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jan 20, 2018 23:37:07 GMT
^She'll just keep doing this because she is literally incapable of understanding when something doesn't say what she insists it says. Indeed. I can see that now! She just used a giant circule of logic to close the loop on that passage, lol. Check out this thread for one of the greatest examples ever of her inability to comprehend what her own links actually say. The relevant part starts with my first reply to her and it just goes further down the rabbit hole from there: imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/39887/why-thor-vernuf
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Post by clusium on Jan 20, 2018 23:38:24 GMT
St. Matthew chapter 28, verse 19. Sorry, that’s just not what it says. By the way, you literally just used circular reasoning to justify why a passage supposedly says what it doesn’t. Its not circular arguing. However, there are other places in the Holy Bible as well, which clearly show that Our Lord Jesus Is God, as Is the Holy Spirit: For Our Lord Jesus: Gospel according to St. John chapter 8, verse 58: "Before Abraham was, I Am." When Jesus Said that, He Was Identifying Himself with the Godhead. That is why the Pharisees stoned Him there. Gospel according to St. John, chapter 20, verse 28: Thomas cried out "My Lord, and My God!!" (after seeing the Risen Lord.) Christ Only Admonishes him for his original disbelief. He Does not Admonish him for calling Him God. For the Holy Spirit: Gospel according to John, chapter 4, verse 24: "God Is a Spirit." Acts chapter 5 verses 3 - 4: Here a man & his wife try cheat the early Church, & when St. Peter confronts them, he tells them that by lying to the Holy Spirit, they were really lying to God.
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 20, 2018 23:44:32 GMT
To all of you:
19 Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
That is Matthew 28: 19. Have a problem?
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Post by goz on Jan 21, 2018 1:42:48 GMT
To all of you:
19 Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
That is Matthew 28: 19. Have a problem? That doesn't specify that they are a single entity. Sounds like three non-existent dudes to me, especially in the use of 'and'! Had they used a comma, God could be proved real.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jan 21, 2018 1:47:31 GMT
Last night for supper I had pizza and cheese sticks and beer. This naturally means that pizza, cheese sticks and beer are all the same thing. - Clusium/MolarMaya logic
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 21, 2018 2:18:38 GMT
Indeed. I can see that now! She just used a giant circule of logic to close the loop on that passage, lol. Check out this thread for one of the greatest examples ever of her inability to comprehend what her own links actually say. The relevant part starts with my first reply to her and it just goes further down the rabbit hole from there: imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/39887/why-thor-vernuf For the lazy
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 21, 2018 2:25:46 GMT
Brandon & goz
You profess to be atheists, so why should our theology matter to you?
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 21, 2018 3:28:41 GMT
Brandon & goz
You profess to be atheists, so why should our theology matter to you? It’s not a question of one person’s theology mattering to anyone else. It’s a question of what the bible says verses what passages can be cobbled together to make it say something that it clearly doesn’t.
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