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Post by cupcakes on Jan 24, 2018 23:53:15 GMT
tpfkar I know you guys have trouble reading when it's inconvenient too. What happened to your degenerate babble diversions though? And I will kill her children with pestilence and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.<shrugs shoulders> Who are "you guys?" <shrugs shoulders> I can keep going with the "Babble On" bit if you like, but I just assumed that was getting boring. Speaking of boring, your repetition of the same two or three phrases is <yawn> making me sleepy. I have some homework for you. Here's a list of synonyms for the word "babble." Mix it up so I can start a new bit, will you? [img src="https://hyperallergic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Photo-One-Meaningless-720x538.jpg" title="" alt="" style="" ] I don't think you have anything else. Starting at babble and sinking to degeneracy is what you guys invariably do to desperately try to divert things. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 23:57:09 GMT
tpfkar <shrugs shoulders> Who are "you guys?" <shrugs shoulders> I can keep going with the "Babble On" bit if you like, but I just assumed that was getting boring. Speaking of boring, your repetition of the same two or three phrases is <yawn> making me sleepy. I have some homework for you. Here's a list of synonyms for the word "babble." Mix it up so I can start a new bit, will you? [img src="https://hyperallergic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Photo-One-Meaningless-720x538.jpg" title="" alt="" style="" ] I don't think you have anything else. Starting at babble and sinking to degeneracy is what you guys invariably do to desperately try to divert things. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.Does repeating the same things over and over make you more confident in them? Or are you a sadist?
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Post by cupcakes on Jan 24, 2018 23:59:22 GMT
tpfkar Does repeating the same things over and over make you more confident in them? Or are you a sadist? Whatever keeps the degenerate liars from burying the facts. You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.
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Post by Vegas on Jan 25, 2018 0:56:39 GMT
tpfkar I don't think you have anything else. Starting at babble and sinking to degeneracy is what you guys invariably do to desperately try to divert things. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.Does repeating the same things over and over make you more confident in them? Or are you a sadist? Just to give you a heads up... Cupcakes is a retard. He'll just keep repeating the same sht over and over in some moronic version of "I Get The Last Word".. It's a game that the only way to win is to not play with the retard. He is the internet equivalent of dealing with this kid: He'll hypocritically babble incoherently on and on.... crying that you are babbling and crying in your hypocrisy. Wanna talk about repeating?.. Just check out the list of "quotes" of mine that he'll list in the inevitable reply he makes to this post that he's been repeating for months, if not years. Do yourself a favor.. and put the loser on IGNORE. You'll be better off for it...
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Post by cupcakes on Jan 25, 2018 1:30:37 GMT
tpfkar Does repeating the same things over and over make you more confident in them? Or are you a sadist? Just to give you a heads up... Cupcakes is a retard. He'll just keep repeating the same sht over and over in some moronic version of "I Get The Last Word".. It's a game that the only way to win is to not play with the retard. He is the internet equivalent of dealing with this kid: [video src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfUVNcCjpL4"] [/video] He'll hypocritically babble incoherently on and on.... crying that you are babbling and crying in your hypocrisy. Wanna talk about repeating?.. Just check out the list of "quotes" of mine that he'll list in the inevitable reply he makes to this post that he's been repeating for months, if not years. Do yourself a favor.. and put the loser on IGNORE. You'll be better off for it... Poor little racist "ignorer" sharing his wank videos and expressing his pain again, this time with mynah'd words. You try to bury with your million "not ignore" and granny klatch posts, you try. And by your request - Vegas to a and about a rape victim in an argument: "Some of us are actually smart enough to know how to avoid being sexually assaulted". "I'm not demeaning a rape victim... I'm demeaning a bitch who happens to be a rape victim". Vegas to a black guy in an argument: Just like a spear chucker to think that he tears a new a$$hole from anybody." "I took a boat from Africa. Your granddad says 'Hi'." "I went with the "N---" at first... I went back and added the "a"... because I didn't want you to think that I was implying the real N word." "Just like a j---a 👻 - BOO!".... to assume that he hurt somebody else when he really hasn't." "Just like a N-- to worry about somebody else's spare change". pic vegas posted to black dude in an argument... pic prior to the KKK treatment Topic rape: "Sometimes "No" doesn't mean "No", it means "Maybe, try harder." It takes a guy with a keen eye to know the difference."
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 25, 2018 2:02:42 GMT
I think you believe what you want to believe. Sorry, you will have to explain your last sentence as I have no idea who Steve Perry is and I am not American so don't understand the significance of South Detroit. Sorry, if you were American, it would not have been as obscure. Steve Perry was the lead singer of one of our more famous rock bands, Journey and the lyrics of the song say, "Don't stop believing. Hold on to that feeling," they also erroneously indicate that a place called "South Detroit" exists and that the fictional character in the song hails from said non-existent place. This latter part might have been obscure for even an average American. It's been discussed in almost every circle I've been part of, but I live and work near Detroit, so.... Reminds me of the joke that while there's a West Philadelphia, there's no East Philadelphia.
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Post by goz on Jan 25, 2018 3:17:21 GMT
Sorry, if you were American, it would not have been as obscure. Steve Perry was the lead singer of one of our more famous rock bands, Journey and the lyrics of the song say, "Don't stop believing. Hold on to that feeling," they also erroneously indicate that a place called "South Detroit" exists and that the fictional character in the song hails from said non-existent place. This latter part might have been obscure for even an average American. It's been discussed in almost every circle I've been part of, but I live and work near Detroit, so.... Reminds me of the joke that while there's a West Philadelphia, there's no East Philadelphia. My husband had a bad thing happen to him in Philadelphia that cost him an Olympic silver medal, if not gold had he been in the crew!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 3:27:49 GMT
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Post by poelzig on Jan 25, 2018 9:48:55 GMT
clusium:
Would that be a Hail Mary?
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Post by Vegas on Jan 25, 2018 10:06:31 GMT
clusium:
Would that be a Hail Mary? *rimshot*
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 25, 2018 13:22:17 GMT
[Evil] is clearly contained by time, as it promises we will be without sin. But we are talking about uncontained evil in this world; scripture does not say that evil will ever end here. Also, God - He who creates evil, as we agree He admits - is apparently outside of time and space, at least as I have been assured by Christians here. This mean that an evil-creating deity is not contained, now or then. But the quote from Isiah does not qualify where God creates evil. It would an odd exegesis to read them as "I create evil - everywhere but earth". I've never heard of the text interpreted thus (the caveat is usually over what sort of evil your god speaks of, i.e. He is not responsible for the sins of men but only earthquakes, cancer etc). And the words are addressed to humans when God, presumably, found them relevant to their condition else, why bother? Moreover, you will remember that God looked back on his creation at the outset and only found it "very good" [Gen 1:31] If there was no sin from the start, or nothing wrong with earth, why would it not be deemed "perfect"? It is your religion and you can interpret as you see fit, obviously. It is fair to say though that for others, notably the Calvinsts, things are not so clear cut. And we also read such lines as “For it is God who is at work in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure.” – Phi. 2:13 Here your deity is clearly seen as the ultimate impetus behind our wills. So while He might 'respect' our will, He still works in us to will according to His good pleasure (i.e. whatever he wants). That is, man’s free choice or free will might be best seen in the compatibilistic sense of the term, and not in the absolute sense of having a free impetus behind the will. I have discussed the human example above. As for the characteristics of angels, demons, fairies and the like, well, I will go along with whatever you say, as clearly you have thought about it a lot. Arguing about something I don't think literally true seems a bit pointless. Yes, I mentioned that above, how 'evil' is regularly equivocated by apologists into 'natural evil'. Yet, if you are now claiming this, then how can one say (as you did earlier that "God certainly did create evil. Well, more specifically, he created Sin")? Are calamities 'sinful'? Who shall we say commits the sins of earthquakes and cancer? See above for how free your Bible says your will actually is. OK, so lets agree that your "terrific" is, less uncomfortably, a term of awe for God's actions rather than approbation. Even if Christians do praise their god for his actions. It means my original question remains, that: if your deity admits to creating evil (or sin), while Timothy assures us that everything created by God is "good", then is sin and/or evil ... good? Saying it is "terrific", in a neutral sense you prefer here, dodges just the question. One might also ask why sin, evil or calamities, whatever you would have them as created by God, would cause Him to "rejoice" as Psalms [104:31] tells us. We can both agree that they are part of all things. Rev 4:11 would says that "You are worthy, our LORD and God, to receive glory and honour and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being". Does the terrific creation of evil or "calamities" bring glory and honour to your god? I love life; it is especially cherishable, not least since it is the only we get. Well, you have just called the creation of (natural) evil, as admitted to by your god "terrific". Is not cancer a natural evil? Timothy says "everything", the context is explained by a Christian website here:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 14:45:39 GMT
tpfkar Does repeating the same things over and over make you more confident in them? Or are you a sadist? Whatever keeps the degenerate liars from burying the facts. You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.What are these "facts" you speak of? I'd love to hear something of substance from you rather than just some tired old ankle-biting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 14:47:45 GMT
Does repeating the same things over and over make you more confident in them? Or are you a sadist? Just to give you a heads up... Cupcakes is a retard. He'll just keep repeating the same sht over and over in some moronic version of "I Get The Last Word".. It's a game that the only way to win is to not play with the retard. He is the internet equivalent of dealing with this kid: He'll hypocritically babble incoherently on and on.... crying that you are babbling and crying in your hypocrisy. Wanna talk about repeating?.. Just check out the list of "quotes" of mine that he'll list in the inevitable reply he makes to this post that he's been repeating for months, if not years. Do yourself a favor.. and put the loser on IGNORE. You'll be better off for it... You're not the first person to tell me this. cupcakes, why do people put you on ignore and advise others to do the same?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 14:50:13 GMT
Sorry, if you were American, it would not have been as obscure. Steve Perry was the lead singer of one of our more famous rock bands, Journey and the lyrics of the song say, "Don't stop believing. Hold on to that feeling," they also erroneously indicate that a place called "South Detroit" exists and that the fictional character in the song hails from said non-existent place. This latter part might have been obscure for even an average American. It's been discussed in almost every circle I've been part of, but I live and work near Detroit, so.... Reminds me of the joke that while there's a West Philadelphia, there's no East Philadelphia. Thanks a lot. Now that song is going to be in my head all day. No, seriously, thank you. It's a great song. If you're from Philly, good luck in the big game.
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Post by cupcakes on Jan 25, 2018 15:50:33 GMT
tpfkar Just to give you a heads up... Cupcakes is a retard. He'll just keep repeating the same sht over and over in some moronic version of "I Get The Last Word".. It's a game that the only way to win is to not play with the retard. He is the internet equivalent of dealing with this kid: [ video src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfUVNcCjpL4" ][/ video] He'll hypocritically babble incoherently on and on.... crying that you are babbling and crying in your hypocrisy. Wanna talk about repeating?.. Just check out the list of "quotes" of mine that he'll list in the inevitable reply he makes to this post that he's been repeating for months, if not years. Do yourself a favor.. and put the loser on IGNORE. You'll be better off for it... You're not the first person to tell me this. cupcakes , why do people put you on ignore and advise others to do the same? Because there's a whole lot of bawly hypocrite freaks of a feather about. What's your thing? Making strange people fall in love with you?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 16:02:03 GMT
This world is part of the next world. This part of creation (meaning, the space in which the earth exists and its dimensions) will endure forever, per the text. As to whether God is contained in his true nature, I can only guess. As to whether he can contain himself, this has been exhibited in his other two formats: Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I was referring to Sin, which is not interchangeable with "evil." God created Sin before he created earth and man. I cannot answer for anyone else, especially not an entire denomination. If you'd wanted to know what the Calvinists thought, you should go to one of their churches or websites. You were picking my brain, so I am telling you what an inspired reader of the scriptures has discovered for himself and through direct and indirect discussion with God. I've already joyously conceded that God is constantly seeking to change our hearts and our deeds for the better. Free will is simply a soul's ability to reason and choose, but certainly (and in the case with God's, thankfully) there are influencers all around us. It's hardly equivocation. That's just an absurd thing to say. The context in which this verse is found is completely and explicitly composed of warnings of war and natural ruin. Further, linguists agree that the root word means "calamity." As to your main point, a tornado is no more evil than a shark. This world is cursed, per the text. How can I say God created Sin? First, it has nothing to do with Isaiah 45. It's purely logical deduction on my part and I could certainly be wrong because the text never explicitly defines it. I use - as my evidence - Ezekiel 28. And, as I've previously stated, my logical deductions have led me to believe that Milton nailed this part of the story. Not sure what you mean here. I addressed the passage in Timothy previously. As I've already stated, I view the creation of Sin as a marvelous and wonderful thing. I rejoice and am glad in it, for it allows me to freely choose to love God. And I do love him, very, very much. I hope me outright saying "I view the creation of Sin as a marvelous and wonderful thing" isn't too dodgy for you. God rejoices in his creation at times and laments his creation at times. If you were a parent, you would understand this tug of war. Most times, my sons bring me joy. Once in a while, I wanna kill 'em. Yes, natural disasters bring glory to God because all things bring glory to God. Even the evil workings of Satan himself are of no use and only end with glory being given to God. See the book of Job. God is not nearly as concerned with your temporal human life or body as you are. He is concerned with the fate of your soul. So yes, even natural disasters bring glory to God. For when these things happen, an opportunity for the love of mankind is opened. Generosity, hard work, empathy, care...all of these things are put on display by people helping the damaged community put the pieces of their lives back together. Furthermore, and more importantly, the death of our loved ones makes every one of us ponder the hereafter. Some of us go on rejecting the idea of life after death, but for many, mourning a loved one's death is the catalyst that springs spiritual concern and curiosity into action.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 16:21:15 GMT
I love it twice as much because I know I get the best of both worlds. Wrong. I said the creation of Sin was terrific. You keep interchanging "Sin" and "evil," when they are not interchangeable. No, I don't disagree with the part of the commentary you quoted (I did not clink the link, I only read the sentences you posted and those are the ones I agree with). I completely agree with it. The reason this doesn't make sense to you is you are using the word "good" that has several definitions and you are appropriating two different definitions into the same argument. It don't work that way. When God says what he created was good and when Timothy clarifies this as it relates to food, neither is using the classic definition of good meaning "the opposite of evil." What is intended - per the text - is a conclusion that everything is working correctly. Everything functions as it was fashioned to do. God created rocks. You don't think that rocks are inherently good or evil in the sense that they can behave morally or immorally....do you? The entire thing is unambiguous and yet folks like you - who truly are not interested at all in hearing my faithful perspective, nor are you interested in salvation, but indeed are only interested in trying to ruin someone else's faith (how pathetic) - do everything you can to make the story ambiguous. Take for instance the literal vs. figurative creation timeline. The text isn't ambiguous at all! It says "evening and morning were the x day" several times. This is the very definition of a context that begs to be taken literally. Now, on to your point about things being made with age, Genesis is unambiguous in this sense. As you've already noted, God's first known commandment to Adam and Eve was to have sex and make babies. This is impossible for a baby. He also then tells them to eat the fruits and vegetables. That he made yesterday. I am not aware of a single plant that is planted on day one and ready for consumption on day two. Are you? Lol, what work was that and what did you accomplish? Further, what did you hope to accomplish?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 16:22:22 GMT
Nice emoji. Fitting for a Lonely Boy.
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Post by cupcakes on Jan 25, 2018 16:22:57 GMT
tpfkar Whatever keeps the degenerate liars from burying the facts. You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.What are these "facts" you speak of? I'd love to hear something of substance from you rather than just some tired old ankle-biting. Who cares what you'd "love". Just try to not keep scurrying away from the point with degeneracy and frantically trying to bawl-divert things. Babble, babble toil and trabble.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 16:39:33 GMT
I'll answer any serious question you have, even though I've already answered it in this thread. Ask it again. Wait, nevermind, you've not had a serious question since you began your chihuahua troll routine. But if you do have one, I'll answer it.
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