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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 5, 2018 23:27:35 GMT
The question is: will they go see Dark Phoenix. Hopefully they have some kind of tie-in from Deadpool 2 so people will know it's okay to go see a movie titled X-men. People saw Logan which had a tie-in to Apocalypse.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 5, 2018 23:30:44 GMT
The question is: will they go see Dark Phoenix. Hopefully they have some kind of tie-in from Deadpool 2 so people will know it's okay to go see a movie titled X-men. People saw alogan which had a tie-in to Apocalypse. They went to Logan because it was Jackman and Stewarts' Swan Song movie as Logan and Xavier. That's also why the movie got the kid's gloves treatment it did.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 5, 2018 23:36:50 GMT
The question is: will they go see Dark Phoenix. Hopefully they have some kind of tie-in from Deadpool 2 so people will know it's okay to go see a movie titled X-men. People saw alogan which had a tie-in to Apocalypse. Did it have a tie-in to Apocalypse? There was nothing in Logan that said "this is associated with X-men Apocalypse" besides having Hugh Jackman. They didn't even include that the company that was in charge of the X-23 program was Essex. Remember when the villain was going to be Mr. Sinister?
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 5, 2018 23:44:31 GMT
The genre is better than ever. More people are getting out into theaters than ever before. No one was going to see X-men movies. And you can't say it's because people weren't into superhero movies because Spider-man was doing big numbers. And the MCU is continuing on that tradition. People will go see Black Panther, they will go see Avengers and they will go see Deadpool 2. The question is: will they go see Dark Phoenix. Hopefully they have some kind of tie-in from Deadpool 2 so people will know it's okay to go see a movie titled X-men. The genre is not better than ever. lol. The genre is a joke now with no artistic credibility. the new transformers of films. hated by long time comic readers and film artists, deep geek thinkers with good reasons. technically smart people saw the xmen movies, reasons they were very successful in their own right under fox and will be the new star wars of mcu. Make a lot of money but be the worst xmen films to date. ie, last jedi, force awakens. Did you see SNL this Saturday? Disney star wars movies are so bad that SNL finally said the prequels were better as the fans have been saying. That is what mcu xmen is going to be. homecoming is already kind of there. People will see black panther as they should. it is the first black mcu movie and that is very important and marvel has marketed it, played cliché politics about it and hyped it up, metaphorically bribed critics like they do with all their movies, we forget after 2 months see thor 3 and homecoming in 2017. It sad that it will be another generic movie in the real world of the Logans, TDKs and DOFPs because a black hero deserves better. People will see avengers too. Kids, transformers crowd, the low IQ masses but Disney will still whine it was a flop like Ultron and Civil War since it will not surpass the original.Funny, How many people like Avengers 2012 today? Does Whedon even like this movie himself? those that said TDKR was better in 2012 we feel vindicated.its sad, that the only people that think the genre is in a good place are mcu fans, innocent children wh know nothing and the dumb masses. so sad. I think I understand you guys now. Are you the closet geeks that loved when comics was only for you? You guys hate that comics are now for everyone. You love when X-men was only making in $200 million range because that meant that it wasn't for the broader audience. Now that people are loving CBMs across the Marvel board, you guys are crying in your X-men PJs. Or is this more Disney hate. Because you spread your hate onto Star Wars in this post. And people are loving Black Panther. And a black hero deserves this. A good telling of their comics into movies. Logan and DoFP was very much generic. Friggin remakes of the directors' previous X-men movies.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 5, 2018 23:47:34 GMT
The genre is not better than ever. lol. The genre is a joke now with no artistic credibility. the new transformers of films. hated by long time comic readers and film artists, deep geek thinkers with good reasons. technically smart people saw the xmen movies, reasons they were very successful in their own right under fox and will be the new star wars of mcu. Make a lot of money but be the worst xmen films to date. ie, last jedi, force awakens. Did you see SNL this Saturday? Disney star wars movies are so bad that SNL finally said the prequels were better as the fans have been saying. That is what mcu xmen is going to be. homecoming is already kind of there. People will see black panther as they should. it is the first black mcu movie and that is very important and marvel has marketed it, played cliché politics about it and hyped it up, metaphorically bribed critics like they do with all their movies, we forget after 2 months see thor 3 and homecoming in 2017. It sad that it will be another generic movie in the real world of the Logans, TDKs and DOFPs because a black hero deserves better. People will see avengers too. Kids, transformers crowd, the low IQ masses but Disney will still whine it was a flop like Ultron and Civil War since it will not surpass the original.Funny, How many people like Avengers 2012 today? Does Whedon even like this movie himself? those that said TDKR was better in 2012 we feel vindicated.its sad, that the only people that think the genre is in a good place are mcu fans, innocent children wh know nothing and the dumb masses. so sad. I think I understand you guys now. They're throwbacks who think it's still the year 2000 and that if any CBM has color or costumes it automatically makes it Batman and Robin. This guy calls himself "Dales" on another forum. He hasn't blocked me there so I was able to challenge him.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 5, 2018 23:51:16 GMT
People saw alogan which had a tie-in to Apocalypse. Did it have a tie-in to Apocalypse? There was nothing in Logan that said "this is associated with X-men Apocalypse" besides having Hugh Jackman. They didn't even include that the company that was in charge of the X-23 program was Essex. Remember when the villain was going to be Mr. Sinister? Oh dear, do you remember when you said that people forgot logan when thor 3 came out. funny, we did say that will be hard since Logan is going to get some major serious recognition since the days of TDK. you are right though. people did forget. low IQ masses , and the fan base split between mcu and transformers. smart people? long time comic fans, other film makers? not so much. Just more backlash for the genre. this time from Jodi Forster that said the comic films cough cough (mcu movies) today have bad content and are harming cinema. no need for that in the 2000-2008 era. its sad, mcu fans think disney pouring billions of money on their soulless co-opertae products and getting billions back stands for the good of the genre and actual people.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 5, 2018 23:55:30 GMT
The question is: will they go see Dark Phoenix. Hopefully they have some kind of tie-in from Deadpool 2 so people will know it's okay to go see a movie titled X-men. People saw alogan which had a tie-in to Apocalypse. Can I say apocalypse was a bad movie but still turned out profit for foxxie. thankfully we don't pretend it is not. in a way it is what helped xmen under fox to grow and get better. you will think some will learn if the media and critics was more honest ie. Iron man 2-Iron Man 3, GOTG 1- GOTG 2. at least fans, actors and film makers speak out on the awfulness of the genre thanks to these type of movies.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 6, 2018 0:01:36 GMT
Oh dear, do you remember when you said that people forgot logan when thor 3 came out. funny, we did say that will be hard since Logan is going to get some major serious recognition since the days of TDK. All Logan will be remembered for is being Jackman's last time as Wolverine. Like the MCU. She was talking about all Comic Book Films, not just the MCU. James Gunn shut her down handily enough anyway.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 6, 2018 0:02:47 GMT
at least fans, actors and film makers speak out on the awfulness of the genre thanks to these type of movies. No, just the Divas like Mickey Rourke and Ed Norton and the jealous filmmakers who want to know why MCU keeps putting out success after success.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 6, 2018 0:11:13 GMT
People saw alogan which had a tie-in to Apocalypse. Did it have a tie-in to Apocalypse? There was nothing in Logan that said "this is associated with X-men Apocalypse" besides having Hugh Jackman. They didn't even include that the company that was in charge of the X-23 program was Essex. Remember when the villain was going to be Mr. Sinister? Rice’s father was one of the scientist Logan killed in Apocalypse. Which was partly his motive. They also showed how they got Logan’s “seed”. They alluded to Essex in the film.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 6, 2018 1:06:50 GMT
In every myth iteration the gods norse-mythology.org/tales/ragnarok/"But this age of death and repose did not last forever. Soon the earth was once again raised from the ocean. Baldur returned from the underworld, and the gladdened land became more lush and fruitful than it had been since it was created the previous time. A new human pair, Lif and Lifthrasir, the equivalents of Ask and Embla in the Norse creation narrative, awakened in the green world. The gods, too, returned and resumed their merrymaking" "While some scholars have attempted to portray Ragnarok as being much like the Christian “End Times,” where the world is destroyed once and for all and historical time is abolished, other scholars, such as historian of religions Mircea Eliade[4] and Old Norse philologist Rudolf Simek[5] have realized that the tale of Ragnarok conveys a very, very different message." Yeah, Thor Ragnarok embellished a bit but it got the jist of it. After all, no one cared about WW mucking up stuff by saying Ares killed all the other Gods when he mythically never did. I know you'll say some slop about the Greek Gods not being important but in the source material comics they certainly are, which means WW wasn't a good adaptation. But I'm used to your double standards and other silliness. I mean, you use something as unreliable as the History Channel for Pete's Sake. I don't know how many times Tristan has to be told that the Thor comics which the movies are adapted from were only LOOSELY inspired by the actual Norse myths. For crying out loud, Thor in the actual myths is red head with a large, crazy beard who gets by with a chariot pulled by two goats and whose magic hammer can be wielded by anybody. His wife is Sif, who unlike her comic counterpart is not a raven-haired warrior and is rather a (usually) gentle, fertility goddess with long, blonde hair. It's pointless to talk about how an adaptation's rendition of an event from the mythology its source material is only loosely inspired by stacks up. It's just a waste of energy. And yes, you are right on about the History Channel, any station that thinks its a good idea to have con artist/nut job John Hogue be an interviewee and an advisor aren't all right in the head.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 6, 2018 3:41:57 GMT
Did it have a tie-in to Apocalypse? There was nothing in Logan that said "this is associated with X-men Apocalypse" besides having Hugh Jackman. They didn't even include that the company that was in charge of the X-23 program was Essex. Remember when the villain was going to be Mr. Sinister? Rice’s father was one of the scientist Logan killed in Apocalypse. Which was partly his motive. They also showed how they got Logan’s “seed”. They alluded to Essex in the film. Eluding to and showing a briefcase nobody understood didn't really link them. Also, him killing a scientist happened in both timelines. Remember he still has the katana from The Wolverine.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 6, 2018 3:56:06 GMT
Did it have a tie-in to Apocalypse? There was nothing in Logan that said "this is associated with X-men Apocalypse" besides having Hugh Jackman. They didn't even include that the company that was in charge of the X-23 program was Essex. Remember when the villain was going to be Mr. Sinister? Oh dear, do you remember when you said that people forgot logan when thor 3 came out. funny, we did say that will be hard since Logan is going to get some major serious recognition since the days of TDK. you are right though. people did forget. low IQ masses , and the fan base split between mcu and transformers. smart people? long time comic fans, other film makers? not so much. Just more backlash for the genre. this time from Jodi Forster that said the comic films cough cough (mcu movies) today have bad content and are harming cinema. no need for that in the 2000-2008 era. its sad, mcu fans think disney pouring billions of money on their soulless co-opertae products and getting billions back stands for the good of the genre and actual people. Until it came out with an Oscar nom, people couldn't remember if Logan came out in 2017 or 2016. Disney could be showing these movies for free and counting the people watching them and it would still show that more people are watching these movies now than they were before 2008. People weren't going to see X-men movies in droves until... DoFP? Then that dropped back off on Apocalypse. Which other movies after DoFP were getting people into theaters? Oh, yeah, the movies not titled X-men. Fox soiled the name of X-men. X-men is suppose to be the most popular CBM series because the comics and animated series were at the top in the 90s. What the hell happened when Fox started making movies of them? Oh and Jodie Foster was promoting her episode of Black Mirror. Notice she is no where to be found now. Friggin Jodie Foster. She was the villain in Elysium right? Right? The height of the cinema going experience. Nobody liked that movie did they? When was the last time she was relevant? Contact? Panic Room? Find someone that is relevant and not some has been like Mickey Rourke. Oh and didn't Hugh Jackman say he'd come back to do an Avengers movie again? How many times is he going to retire from Wolverine? He's done it 3 times. Remember when he said he'd come back if the script was good? Sounds like even he knows that the X-men movie stories are crap. He retired from the character for good until news about Disney buying Fox and the character going to the MCU. But, well, even the main character for Fox's X-men movies can be wrong too huh?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 6, 2018 4:26:53 GMT
Rice’s father was one of the scientist Logan killed in Apocalypse. Which was partly his motive. They also showed how they got Logan’s “seed”. They alluded to Essex in the film. Eluding to and showing a briefcase nobody understood didn't really link them. Also, him killing a scientist happened in both timelines. Remember he still has the katana from The Wolverine. Actually, he didn’t kill any scientist in the original timeline.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 6, 2018 9:50:52 GMT
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Post by summers8 on Feb 6, 2018 10:25:29 GMT
lol, did you say people could not remember if logan came out in 2016 or 2017? yikes, the lies and desperation is getting hott. um, and the best comic film of 2017 goes to?LOGAN. by everyone even on the mcu forum here. also add, Logan been called the greatest comic film ever. now a split between TDK. and already made many best movie list of 2017 without a shallow oscar norm. Spiderman Homecoming is still voted the 3rd or 4th best spidey film ....right? as of 2017. Am sure people know when they said so. its just how nature created man. mcu movies are this bad huh? so bad you try to defile common sense. so sad. And to be fair, THE thor 3 comedy backlash was a result of films like Logan. Wait, as for 2017 is xmen still not on top along with spiderman if we count also comics. logan, legion. what did mcu do that topped this in 2017? Defenders? Iron fists? Inhumans? GOTG 2? Thor 3? Homecoming? all were factually called mediocre to X-Men's Logan and Legion that put X-Men on top as usual. hm, Could this be why you pretended to be a xmen fan? it is embarrassing to admit you are a fan of mcu childish stuff today when logan or legion are around. its better to be a fan of that than the disney mcu formula garbage. Spiderman and X-Men also still pose the strongest marvel comic sales despite the attempts to replace iron man with spiderman and inhumans in xmen. it bombed for disney with marvel comics. so much for popularity or shall I say longevity that spiderman and xmen have that mcu does not? this is the 2018 and xmen and batman still outclass everyone else for marvel and DC with quality stuff. what happened with all the disney power ? No offence but Jodi Forster, is an iconic legendary actress, she does not need any promotion for a series, she said what she said about comic movies because it is the truth. lol. what attention is a person like Jodi or Scorsese looking for by saying superhero (mcu) movies today are bs? Nolan said it in 2012 about mcu movies when he had TDKR to promote. you think he wanted MCU attention? LOL. No offence again but jackman is not coming back, bucky wanted him to come back and he said no. Will Patrick Stewart and Ian Mckellen come back? Will James Mangold come back? will Matt Vaughn come back Will Tim Miller come back? Will Christopher Nolan reconsider? Nope. because all have said they do not want a part in brainless mcu movies. You think you understand us, you don't. we liked it when comic films were taken seriously and were real art thanks to movies like X2, Batman Begins, Logan, Spiderman 2 and TDK. now today they are a joke. MCU is on top alright, not just for all smart deep thinking people that want more than comedy bs and cgi galore and thinks disney spending billions to make billions means good. ask iron man. the more money his movieS made, the more his movies declined artistically.. SO SAD. Bring on Matt Reeves Batman already.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 6, 2018 10:46:23 GMT
Some truth here
these did not happen in the days of X2 , V for V and TDK.
Look at mcu directors defending the poor state of comic movies today they created. we liked it when Bryan Singer and Chris Nolan did not have to defend anything by making serious superhero movies not the mcu gotg bs.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 6, 2018 12:58:29 GMT
Until it came out with an Oscar nom, people couldn't remember if Logan came out in 2017 or 2016. Do you have any examples of what you are claiming? If a title mattered than BvS wouldn’t have affected Justice League. Actually, Hugh Jackman didn’t say that. Recently he even said he won’t come back despite Chris Hemsworth begging him.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 6, 2018 14:46:22 GMT
lol, did you say people could not remember if logan came out in 2016 or 2017? Yes, cause it's true. Probably a tie between Homecoming and Thor Ragnarok. By people ashamed of comics and wanting to go easy on Jackmans' last performance. Nope. Actually, Agents of Shield was called better than Legion. And people only went easy on Logan as it was Jackmans' last time. Not anymore, no. Got shut down by Gunn easily. He's jealous. He'll probably change his mind, PROPER people are now in charge. Ashamed of themselves. Unashamed, and you just can't stand that. No, they just wouldn't go as creatively bankrupt as the FoX-Men became. [/quote]
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 6, 2018 14:47:22 GMT
Some truth here these did not happen in the days of X2 , V for V and TDK. Back then, CBMs weren't popular or Mainstream. They were seen as some fringe culture. TDK only got really noticed because Ledger died.
MCU redefined things, and now they're more mainstream and MUCH more accepted than they used to be.
They're getting more attention from the Power Players and expanding in ways none of the throwbacks (Singer, Nolan) considered.
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