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Post by charzhino on Feb 9, 2018 15:16:59 GMT
DC are a mess just trying to blatantly copycat MCU the past 3 years, they have no ethos. The credibility of serious comic films lies only in the palette of Xmen films and spinoffs that Fox have remaining before Disney takeover and make them a cheesy kids product again. Deadpool, Dark Phoneix, New Mutants, Xforce and hopefully Gambit and X23 solos. Maybe Venom but need a proper trailer to judge the tone.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 9, 2018 15:19:22 GMT
interesting trivia about logan and get out.
Logan and Get Out are the first movies since almost a decade to get any artistic recognition one year after release. Usually the best of the artistic moves come out late in the year. Logan and get out were out in February. That was how memorable both films where. What happened to thor 3 and spiderman H again? just made more people come out to say comic films are trash today end 2017 with Jodi forster.
mcu fans don't want to listen to a film great like david finch that has said mcu movies are bad but they love fan boys joking on screenjunkies? the credibility is low right now.
It’s the same ceremony that decided to give Best Picture nomination to ‘Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close’ over ‘Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2’ after doing the same thing with ‘The Reader’ over ‘WALL-E’. Let those soak in... And there was an uproar since deathly hallows was deserving but the Oscars has too much snobiness and politics. true great Movies don’t need to win Oscars, what matters is they achieve the highest level pf pure artistic valor and are praised for it and do good for their genre. MCU cannot even make the HP movies. They will see it as too dark, complicated and serious. MCU magic will be Cinderella. Good for little children, bad for long time fantasy fans.
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 9, 2018 15:29:58 GMT
It’s the same ceremony that decided to give Best Picture nomination to ‘Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close’ over ‘Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2’ after doing the same thing with ‘The Reader’ over ‘WALL-E’. Let those soak in... And there was an uproar since deathly hallows was deserving but the Oscars has too much snobiness and politics. true great Movies don’t need to win Oscars, what matters is they achieve the highest level pf pure artistic valor and are praised for it and do good for their genre. MCU cannot even make the HP movies. They will see it as too dark, complicated and serious. MCU magic will be Cinderella. Good for little children, bad for long time fantasy fans. Yeah, tell that to ‘Captain America: The Winter Soldier’ and ‘Black Panther’... But who am I kidding. You even claim that MCU is on par with ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’, which is a sh!tty ‘Twilight’ fanfiction.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2018 16:02:17 GMT
Logan and Get Out are the first movies since almost a decade to get any artistic recognition one year after release. Because the Academy is desperate to not look racist after the "Oscars are too white" controversy and Logan was Jackmans' Swan Song film. It's politics. They're seen as great entries in a great series. Why would we listen to jealousy driven people? Movies that that are only good because they're Swan Songs?
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2018 16:03:09 GMT
The credibility of serious comic films lies only in the palette of Xmen films and spinoffs You spelled "Ashamed" wrong.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 9, 2018 16:12:37 GMT
The credibility of serious comic films lies only in the palette of Xmen films and spinoffs You spelled "Ashamed" wrong. Nope, serious was the right word. Something MCU cant hack.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2018 16:49:26 GMT
You spelled "Ashamed" wrong. Nope, serious was the right word. Something MCU cant hack. Your "Serious" = Movies that reject their source material, reject the wondrous, reject stuff like Magic and Aliens so it can pretend it's the real world (Lazy), reject that the protags can be interesting characters on their own, etc.
If that's "serious" I'm glad the MCU isn't like that.
Leave it to you, the Asgardians would just be a bunch of delusional LARPers living in some musty castle and none of them would have superpowers.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 9, 2018 19:05:26 GMT
Nope, serious was the right word. Something MCU cant hack. Your "Serious" = Movies that reject their source material, reject the wondrous, reject stuff like Magic and Aliens so it can pretend it's the real world (Lazy), reject that the protags can be interesting characters on their own, etc.
If that's "serious" I'm glad the MCU isn't like that.
Aliens and magic are secondary things. If you dont get the approach and tone right first, then other aesthetic decorations wont make the film automatically better. This is BS and you know it
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 9, 2018 19:07:23 GMT
Also, Screen Junkies? Those guys in general have a poor memory of the X-Men films. They said the president in X3 was a villian, Mystique was a bad in DOFP, think Xavier and Wolverine shouldn’t the old timeline, etc. So you are comparing remembering a movie from back in 2005 to a movie that came out last year? If I said that Lando was in charge of a place called Sky City in ESB would you say that my memory of all movies from then til now is bad? Also, Mystique was bad in DoFP. The same as Magneto being bad in Apocalypse. Yeah, they turned around in the end, but they were still bad through out the movie. Mystique was an anti-hero in the same vein as Deadpool and they said she was bad throughout. Saying that Mystique being a good guy in Apocalypse contradicted DOFP. I mean to say that they are extremely casual X-Men viewers. They are not that invested in the series and thus tend forget about major details easily.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2018 19:16:48 GMT
Aliens and magic are secondary things. If you dont get the approach and tone right first, then other aesthetic decorations wont make the film automatically better. By your logic, Star Wars A New Hope should've been a massive bomb. It's what Thor would be reduced to if you stripped away the magic and aliens and stuff.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 9, 2018 19:24:49 GMT
So you are comparing remembering a movie from back in 2005 to a movie that came out last year? If I said that Lando was in charge of a place called Sky City in ESB would you say that my memory of all movies from then til now is bad? Also, Mystique was bad in DoFP. The same as Magneto being bad in Apocalypse. Yeah, they turned around in the end, but they were still bad through out the movie. Mystique was an anti-hero in the same vein as Deadpool and they said she was bad throughout. Saying that Mystique being a good guy in Apocalypse contradicted DOFP. I mean to say that they are extremely casual X-Men viewers. They are not that invested in the series and thus tend forget about major details easily. You do know that a character can be a bad guy in one movie and a hero in the next, right? She was no anti-hero. She was out to kill a bunch of people. Saying Mystique was an anti-hero is the same as saying Magneto is an anti-hero.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 9, 2018 19:33:18 GMT
Mystique was an anti-hero in the same vein as Deadpool and they said she was bad throughout. Saying that Mystique being a good guy in Apocalypse contradicted DOFP. I mean to say that they are extremely casual X-Men viewers. They are not that invested in the series and thus tend forget about major details easily. You do know that a character can be a bad guy in one movie and a hero in the next, right? She was no anti-hero. She was out to kill a bunch of people. Saying Mystique was an anti-hero is the same as saying Magneto is an anti-hero. Just like Deadpool and for similar reasons. Yet he’s considered an anti-hero. Let’s not pretend that Trask and Styker are good people.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 9, 2018 19:43:55 GMT
You do know that a character can be a bad guy in one movie and a hero in the next, right? She was no anti-hero. She was out to kill a bunch of people. Saying Mystique was an anti-hero is the same as saying Magneto is an anti-hero. Just like Deadpool and for similar reasons. Yet he’s considered an anti-hero. Let’s not pretend that Trask and Styker are good people. You know bad guys do go after bad guys, right? Deadpool isn't an anti-hero. He's a chaotic neutral. That's the thing about being a mercenary. Mystique in the movies isn't a mercenary.
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Post by scabab on Feb 10, 2018 2:35:51 GMT
The series has had a good run. All the movies have been financially successful too which is a feat in itself.
It'll be interesting to see a new approach to the series but I hope they don't make them overly comedic like they seem to be doing more and more so with the MCU as of late.
It was good to have some superhero movies that were tonally very different and now they might all just be the same except for the odd one like Venom.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 10, 2018 4:57:08 GMT
Just like Deadpool and for similar reasons. Yet he’s considered an anti-hero. Let’s not pretend that Trask and Styker are good people. You know bad guys do go after bad guys, right? Deadpool isn't an anti-hero. He's a chaotic neutral. That's the thing about being a mercenary. Mystique in the movies isn't a mercenary. She’s actually stated to be one in Apocalypse.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 10, 2018 12:11:41 GMT
Just like Deadpool and for similar reasons. Yet he’s considered an anti-hero. Let’s not pretend that Trask and Styker are good people. You know bad guys do go after bad guys, right? Deadpool isn't an anti-hero. He's a chaotic neutral. That's the thing about being a mercenary. Mystique in the movies isn't a mercenary. Mystique and Magneto are no more villains than President Nixon and Trask were. Oh and about Deadpool. you could not be more wrong. Mystique's part in DOFP was not different from deapdool, in the end both wanted one thing. Revenge on one particular person. facts here. You have to keep getting it wrong and keep lieing. its the only way any mcu thing related can look passible. so sad
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Post by summers8 on Feb 10, 2018 12:19:02 GMT
The series has had a good run. All the movies have been financially successful too which is a feat in itself. It'll be interesting to see a new approach to the series but I hope they don't make them overly comedic like they seem to be doing more and more so with the MCU as of late. It was good to have some superhero movies that were tonally very different and now they might all just be the same except for the odd one like Venom. Except they will make it comedic and MCU X-MEN will be the new star wars. it was good to have superhero movies with a different tone. reason the genre had more credibility back then. The last great X-Men movie will be X-Force. but as I do say, the genre will be dead by then. please even mcu knows it. Just look at the push for black panther, its has become a political movement to the point of sjw. mcu cannot just sell it anymore as another movie they have out because they are aware of the saturation their movies are causing. Kind of makes me sad New Mutants was not fully complete yet. If new mutants had come out in april , it will have been an artistic blood bath of every MCU movie released so far.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 15:04:00 GMT
You know bad guys do go after bad guys, right? Deadpool isn't an anti-hero. He's a chaotic neutral. That's the thing about being a mercenary. Mystique in the movies isn't a mercenary. Mystique and Magneto are no more villains than President Nixon and Trask were. Nope, Nixon was an elected official doing what the people asked of him against a real threat. Magneto and Mystique are terrorists carrying on a Nazi's legacy.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 15:05:58 GMT
Except they will make it comedic So, true to the comics then. The comics that weren't pretentious. No, it was just more fringe and ashamed of itself back then. Blame critics, not the MCU. All the MCU did was make a movie. Nope, it would suck. Because it WILL suck. The FoX-men have been running on empty for a while now.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Feb 10, 2018 15:09:18 GMT
What is this thread in reference to? Was there a claim that they weren't going to make any additional X-Men films for a while, that series like "The Gifted" are going to end, etc.?
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