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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 29, 2018 13:41:06 GMT
I guess it takes one to know one, huh! Not really, you can easily figure it out without having any personal experience. Idiot! |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 29, 2018 13:41:53 GMT
He probably wouldn't much like you either. That's a good thing. Idiot! |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 29, 2018 13:42:56 GMT
And he's terrible because?
Terrible because he was placed in the Jewish Ghetto and had to find any means he could to survive by making foreskins out of candlewax to fool the Germans and avoid being shipped off to concentration camp, where most of his family and friends died. Terrible because his beautiful wife who was 8 months pregnant was disgustingly and brutally butchered along with his friends. Or terrible, because he was set up by a scheming gold digger and had sex with a very sexually experienced 13yr old woman child who was a scheming liar too and who doesn't really have a credible bone in her body when you delve deeper into the facts of the case?
So the bad things that happen to people should remove the taint of their kiddy diddling behavior? Defense lawyers should be happy to hear that. Hmmmm, yes! Whatever idiot! |
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Post by marth on Jan 29, 2018 13:43:52 GMT
"Rosemary's Baby"/"Chinatown" - great director of macabre films?
Sharon Tate/Charles Manson?
First thing that comes to mind, then the other things.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 29, 2018 13:54:39 GMT
So the bad things that happen to people should remove the taint of their kiddy diddling behavior? Defense lawyers should be happy to hear that. Hmmmm, yes! Whatever idiot! You wish you were that kid he raped don't you? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 29, 2018 14:06:25 GMT
Hmmmm, yes! Whatever idiot! You wish you were that kid he raped don't you? If you say so idiot!  |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 29, 2018 16:42:21 GMT
Good director, terrible human being. And he's terrible because?
Terrible because he was placed in the Jewish Ghetto and had to find any means he could to survive by making foreskins out of candlewax to fool the Germans and avoid being shipped off to concentration camp, where most of his family and friends died. Terrible because his beautiful wife who was 8 months pregnant was disgustingly and brutally butchered along with his friends. Or terrible, because he was set up by a scheming gold digger and had sex with a very sexually experienced 13yr old woman child who was a scheming liar too and who doesn't really have a credible bone in her body when you delve deeper into the facts of the case?
You're kidding right? |
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Post by Marv on Jan 29, 2018 17:58:36 GMT
Great director....country fleeing sexual predator.
I think of both those almost the same time.
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Post by Marv on Jan 29, 2018 18:00:11 GMT
in terms of movies... The Ninth Gate (1999)the only movie of his of any real worth. I love several others...but Ninth Gate was very good. |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 29, 2018 18:00:43 GMT
Great director....country fleeing sexual predator. I think of both those almost the same time. Woody Allen might be next. |
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Post by Marv on Jan 29, 2018 18:03:56 GMT
Great director....country fleeing sexual predator. I think of both those almost the same time. Woody Allen might be next. Along with most of Hollywood these days, eh? |
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Post by poelzig on Jan 29, 2018 20:14:44 GMT
Excellent director that drugged and raped a little girl. Deplorable human. Just how drugged was she and how raped was she? So as far as you're concerned there is a degree of drugging and raping a 13 year old that's acceptable? Obviously you think so or there would be no reason to ask such a stupid question like you did. What is cool with you? A pint of vodka laced with roofies and just raping one orifice? Is that how you do it? |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 29, 2018 20:27:52 GMT
When you hear his name, what is the first thing you think of? "Rosemary's Baby"/"Chinatown" - great director of macabre films? Sharon Tate/Charles Manson? Child molesting charges? Victim of Nazi persecution? Exile? I first learned about RP when I read "Helter Skelter" at the age of 12. It's impossible to get it out of your head once you know the story. The man has suffered untold tragedy. Used to be a time when it was just the movies from the 70's.
And its terrible what he's endured in life. Victim of Nazi persecution. Sharon Tate/Charles Manson.
But the molestation charges... Bottom line? He never paid for that crime. He's not exempt because of previous suffering.
But I have to ask... exile? From where? From Europe because of the Nazis, or from the US because of the molestation charges? If its the former I have no sympathy. He spent the last few decades evading US law while living with all his money, making movies and having Hollywood actors flock to his locations. That's not exile. That's freedom outside of countries with extradition.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 29, 2018 21:43:41 GMT
And he's terrible because?
Terrible because he was placed in the Jewish Ghetto and had to find any means he could to survive by making foreskins out of candlewax to fool the Germans and avoid being shipped off to concentration camp, where most of his family and friends died. Terrible because his beautiful wife who was 8 months pregnant was disgustingly and brutally butchered along with his friends. Or terrible, because he was set up by a scheming gold digger and had sex with a very sexually experienced 13yr old woman child who was a scheming liar too and who doesn't really have a credible bone in her body when you delve deeper into the facts of the case?
You're kidding right? No! I thought you were the one that was kidding. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 29, 2018 21:44:18 GMT
Just how drugged was she and how raped was she? So as far as you're concerned there is a degree of drugging and raping a 13 year old that's acceptable? Obviously you think so or there would be no reason to ask such a stupid question like you did. What is cool with you? A pint of vodka laced with roofies and just raping one orifice? Is that how you do it? Are you just making stuff up now, to deflect from what I asked? |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 29, 2018 22:26:47 GMT
When you hear his name, what is the first thing you think of? "Rosemary's Baby"/"Chinatown" - great director of macabre films? Sharon Tate/Charles Manson? Child molesting charges? Victim of Nazi persecution? Exile? I first learned about RP when I read "Helter Skelter" at the age of 12. It's impossible to get it out of your head once you know the story. The man has suffered untold tragedy. Used to be a time when it was just the movies from the 70's.
And its terrible what he's endured in life. Victim of Nazi persecution. Sharon Tate/Charles Manson.
But the molestation charges... Bottom line? He never paid for that crime. He's not exempt because of previous suffering.
But I have to ask... exile? From where? From Europe because of the Nazis, or from the US because of the molestation charges? If its the former I have no sympathy. He spent the last few decades evading US law while living with all his money, making movies and having Hollywood actors flock to his locations. That's not exile. That's freedom outside of countries with extradition.
My point of view says that yes, he gets a free pass. I feel sorry for him. I think he's had a haunted existence. And the girl wasn't, apparently, all that traumatized. She says so all the time. If she can forgive him so easily, it shouldn't be so hard for others to do the same. You're right about my incorrect use of the word exile.. I should have said "self-imposed exile", or "fleeing the country". Good for him. He has self-preservation instincts. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 29, 2018 22:30:10 GMT
Well when I think Polanski there is a melding of Rosemary's baby "devil worship" and "Manson cult" so its difficult to separate the two.
I see him as a sinister figure because of any one of his associations.
If he made the Sound of Music it would be a different situation.
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 29, 2018 22:42:45 GMT
When you hear his name, what is the first thing you think of? "Rosemary's Baby"/"Chinatown" - great director of macabre films? Sharon Tate/Charles Manson? Child molesting charges? Victim of Nazi persecution? Exile? I first learned about RP when I read "Helter Skelter" at the age of 12. It's impossible to get it out of your head once you know the story. The man has suffered untold tragedy. I wouldn't expect anything put into proper perspective, or have reasonable balanced discussions where Polanski is concerned, with the judgmental and displaced hatred of most of the herd who will respond here dirtypillows.
Yes. I especially agree with your comment about the displaced hatred, Toasted Cheese. I tried to be objective when I phrased the question, but I'm afraid most of the comments were exactly what I thought was going to happen. There is something very suspect about people who can seemingly gloss over the Holocaust and the Manson Gang and what they did to a young woman who is 8 months pregnant, but start foaming at the mouth at statutory rape. These people don't even care to know the facts and the fact that Samantha Geimer forgave him almost immediately. I really think that what people are so angry about is that he fled the country and escaped justice, to their way of seeing things, anyway. Why aren't these same people going on that the Manson butchers (aka, Atkins, Krenwinkle, Watson, Van Houten) were not executed? Because you know that they spend way more time being outraged at the "injustice" of Polanski's successful flight than they are about what happened to Sharon Tate, or Polanski's mother and sisters. To be honest, most of them probably don't even have any real feeling towards Sharon's horrible demise whatsoever. At least a couple of posters mentioned his movies. |
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jan 30, 2018 0:15:13 GMT
I haven't seen many of his films, so I tend to think of the child sex abuse charges whenever I first hear his name. That and the Sharon Tate murder case.
As a film-maker I don't have particularly strong opinions about him. I did like both Repulsion and Rosemary's Baby though.
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Post by poelzig on Jan 30, 2018 1:01:30 GMT
So as far as you're concerned there is a degree of drugging and raping a 13 year old that's acceptable? Obviously you think so or there would be no reason to ask such a stupid question like you did. What is cool with you? A pint of vodka laced with roofies and just raping one orifice? Is that how you do it? Are you just making stuff up now, to deflect from what I asked? You asked me HOW drugged and raped a 13 year old victim was. Why would you ask that UNLESS there are degrees of being raped and drugged you find acceptable? Answer the question this time instead of deflecting. |
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