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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 30, 2018 6:52:14 GMT
You and cheese should have a few beers together after your next NAMBLA meeting. Y'all obviously have a lot in common. Don't forget the roofies. Except the part about Toasted Cheese and myself having a lot in common, everything you just posted is the opposite of my reality. 1. I don't drink beer, and if I wouldn't give a potential sex partner tranquilizers because I want my man to be alert and enjoying himself - and I do mean alert. Also, and here you really ran with your pre-conceived notions of what someone who sides with Roman Polanski is all about. Just because I side with RP doesn't mean that I am attracted to adolescents. No, the most sexually desirable men are usually between 30-60. Younger than that and they've not yet lived long enough to acquire a certain masculine aura that makes them so desirable. Even when I was 19, my first boyfriend was 34 years old. I just like them older. Lucky me! Sorry about that but I still don't understand how anyone thinks a person that drugs and rapes someone should not be punished. It's also very odd that cheese keeps insisting that if you find raping children horrible you have to be pretending to have empathy. WTF?!!! I don't get the impression he's trolling either since he's said it many times before. Very creepy. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 30, 2018 6:57:52 GMT
You and cheese should have a few beers together after your next NAMBLA meeting. Y'all obviously have a lot in common. Don't forget the roofies. Except the part about Toasted Cheese and myself having a lot in common, everything you just posted is the opposite of my reality. 1. I don't drink beer, and if I wouldn't give a potential sex partner tranquilizers because I want my man to be alert and enjoying himself - and I do mean alert. Also, and here you really ran with your pre-conceived notions of what someone who sides with Roman Polanski is all about. Just because I side with RP doesn't mean that I am attracted to adolescents. No, the most sexually desirable men are usually between 30-60. Younger than that and they've not yet lived long enough to acquire a certain masculine aura that makes them so desirable. Even when I was 19, my first boyfriend was 34 years old. I just like them older. Lucky me! Sorry about that but I still don't understand how anyone thinks a person that drugs and rapes someone should not be punished. It's also very odd that cheese keeps insisting that if you find raping children horrible you have to be pretending to have empathy. WTF?!!! I don't get the impression he's trolling either since he's said it many times before. Very creepy.
Except that I am not talking about just anyone, I am talking about Roman Polanski; and to put it as plainly as possible, I feel relieved that he only served 43 days in jail, because sometimes you want to see someone given a break. It's not that Toasted Cheese and I are HAPPY when somebody gets raped. I know he never said that outright. It's not about dismissing what happened to Geimer. It's about seeing the other side of things and feeling relieved and grateful that this man didn't have to go through any more pain. I feel compassion, yes. I feel a great deal of compassion. But the compassion I feel in this case is all for Roman Polanski. The man paid his suffering dues 200 times over. The fact that Geimer forgives him just reinforces my convictions. |
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Post by Sir_Farty_Fartsalot on Jan 30, 2018 6:58:15 GMT
Great filmmaker. "Chinatown" is one of my favorites.
While he's guilty of statutory rape but I have a feeling people are probably cutting him some slack because he's pretty much warped from the tragedies he's experienced; Holocaust & his pregnant wife slaughtered by the Manson Family. Not making excuses for him but I just think that's one of the reasons why he's still doing well professionally
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Post by poelzig on Jan 30, 2018 7:03:46 GMT
So it gives you great pleasure that an admitted pedophile will go unpunished? WOW!!!! You and cheese ARE a perfect match. Don't you have anything better to do? I don't understand why people continue having a discussion that just goes in circles. Even if the other user is a POS, what possible point does it serve to point that out more than one time? I have noticed that you are someone who seems to just enjoy confrontation for the sake of confrontation. I was simply asking questions that were never answered. Did you also cry to dirty and cheese or do they get a free pass because they agree with you? Isn't the purpose of a message board to discuss things even if the people discussing don't agree? If you mistakenly believe I enjoy confrontation isn't it a bit hypocritical to CONFRONT me and then whine about it? If you're so desperate for my attention all you have to do is say "Hi Poelzig. How are you?" and I will respond. Now do you have anything to contribute or are you just kind of pathetic and needy? Do you admire Polanski for his excellent directing or his ability to rape kids and get away with it? Both? Please just answer the question and don't confront me for the sake of confrontation. Have nice evening. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2018 8:56:53 GMT
It's about looking for a scapegoat and somebody else to project hate on, due to insecurities in their own life. It is all displaced aggression issues that they take out of context and don't know how to deal with it. I feel badly that you lack any empathy for children or seemingly for anyone. Perhaps because your family never gave a shit about you and people find you to be a loathsome asshole so you want everyone else to suffer as well? Sociopaths share your same lack of understanding of how people can have compassion for anyone. Have you been tested? But if that moronic displaced aggression thing makes you feel better for not caring about rape victims then........... yeah.  And you are "normal"? Whatever that means. You are one of the biggest sociopaths on this board; but most know that you live in denial. You are way too transparent. What exactly is is that you want done to Polanski? If you had an opportunity to do something to him to punish him, what would you do, and would you have the integrity to do it for yourself? Even if he was punished in the manner that you think would be fitting, you would still be full of your own anger and hatred towards him. The issue isn't Polanski here, but your own anger and hate. Yes, please do go and see somebody professional before you snap. Fool troll!  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2018 9:02:54 GMT
So the bad things that happen to people should remove the taint of their kiddy diddling behavior?Defense lawyers should be happy to hear that. Not in a legal sense but in a psychological sense, yes. Most people can't even comprehend the horrors he went through before sexually assaulting that girl. He should be persecuted and pitied at the same time. I would have been on the edge of insanity by that point. I have a great deal of empathy for anyone that has suffered in the way both him and his victim have.How has his victim suffered though? What do you know about her suffering, that others don't? Compared to how Polanski suffered, it is a walk in the park. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2018 9:08:36 GMT
You and cheese should have a few beers together after your next NAMBLA meeting. Y'all obviously have a lot in common. Don't forget the roofies. Except the part about Toasted Cheese and myself having a lot in common, everything you just posted is the opposite of my reality. 1. I don't drink beer, and if I wouldn't give a potential sex partner tranquilizers because I want my man to be alert and enjoying himself - and I do mean alert. Also, and here you really ran with your pre-conceived notions of what someone who sides with Roman Polanski is all about. Just because I side with RP doesn't mean that I am attracted to adolescents. No, the most sexually desirable men are usually between 30-60. Younger than that and they've not yet lived long enough to acquire a certain masculine aura that makes them so desirable. Even when I was 19, my first boyfriend was 34 years old. I just like them older. Lucky me! Sorry about that but I still don't understand how anyone thinks a person that drugs and rapes someone should not be punished. It's also very odd that cheese keeps insisting that if you find raping children horrible you have to be pretending to have empathy. WTF?!!! I don't get the impression he's trolling either since he's said it many times before. Very creepy. You don't even know what you are talking about moron! You don't have any empathy, only fake and phony sympathy and you don't even know why you have that. Yes! You are a creepy troll on here, and a desperate sock account to boot.  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2018 9:18:20 GMT
Don't like wine, either. Sorry to tell you this -- wait, no, I'm not sorry! I'm happy to tell you this! It gives me great pleasure to tell you this: Polanski is not going to be punished for the 1977 statutory rape charges. So it gives you great pleasure that an admitted pedophile will go unpunished? WOW!!!! You and cheese ARE a perfect match. So you know more than a professional psychiatrist do you? Polanski was assessed and he was not deemed to be a pedophile. He didn't even know how old Geimer was, and she also lied to men about her age. Yes, Polanski was very foolish and she still looked young; but Geimer, the so-called victim, DOES NOT WANT POLANSKI TO BE CONTINUALLY VICTIMIZED HERSELF. SHE FORGIVES HIM. It is also in her best interests that Polanski be absolved, because her worst fear would be having Polanski back in the US and him before the courts again. It would not make her look good, after the passage of time and the truth about what really went down, the timeline and the evidence that would not work too much in her favor. It would expose lies, corruption and deceit from all parties involved. It is not a black and white case. Polanski, will never be convicted of raping her. Only for perverting the course of justice, that perverted itself. It will all fold in on itself. It failed Geimer and it failed Polanski. The legal system can take the onus for that. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2018 9:28:05 GMT
Sorry about that but I still don't understand how anyone thinks a person that drugs and rapes someone should not be punished. It's also very odd that cheese keeps insisting that if you find raping children horrible you have to be pretending to have empathy. WTF?!!! I don't get the impression he's trolling either since he's said it many times before. Very creepy.
Except that I am not talking about just anyone, I am talking about Roman Polanski; and to put it as plainly as possible, I feel relieved that he only served 43 days in jail, because sometimes you want to see someone given a break. It's not that Toasted Cheese and I are HAPPY when somebody gets raped. I know he never said that outright. It's not about dismissing what happened to Geimer. It's about seeing the other side of things and feeling relieved and grateful that this man didn't have to go through any more pain. I feel compassion, yes. I feel a great deal of compassion. But the compassion I feel in this case is all for Roman Polanski. The man paid his suffering dues 200 times over. The fact that Geimer forgives him just reinforces my convictions. Most people appear to have a dense and base prison mentality. P olezig is probably an ex-con. I just don't get why they are so angry and worked up about something that happened 41yrs ago, and it still makes them angry. How does it really affect them and where does their hatred stem from? They don't even know Geimer, she is not a 13yr old girl anymore— apparently, she claimed she was a woman at this stage in her life anyway, due to her intellect and other illegal sexual experiences—and does not even care anymore. It is not the worst thing that has ever happened to Polanski, or to Geimer. It has just been all hyped up and the rabble in the pit have taken the bite. The 70's was also a different era, different time and different place. It needs to be all put into proper perspective. |
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Post by poelzig on Jan 30, 2018 9:41:30 GMT
Great filmmaker. "Chinatown" is one of my favorites. While he's guilty of statutory rape but I have a feeling people are probably cutting him some slack because he's pretty much warped from the tragedies he's experienced; Holocaust & his pregnant wife slaughtered by the Manson Family. Not making excuses for him but I just think that's one of the reasons why he's still doing well professionally His movies still make money and he's still got serious skills as a director. That's the ONLY reason Hollywood hypocrites still work with him. Hell that sick freak that made Clown House and reaped a little boy while making the movie still gets jobs and he suffered very little at all. He did less time than guys with a bag of pot have done. |
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Post by Sir_Farty_Fartsalot on Jan 30, 2018 9:55:18 GMT
Great filmmaker. "Chinatown" is one of my favorites. While he's guilty of statutory rape but I have a feeling people are probably cutting him some slack because he's pretty much warped from the tragedies he's experienced; Holocaust & his pregnant wife slaughtered by the Manson Family. Not making excuses for him but I just think that's one of the reasons why he's still doing well professionally His movies still make money and he's still got serious skills as a director. That's the ONLY reason Hollywood hypocrites still work with him. Hell that sick freak that made Clown House and reaped a little boy while making the movie still gets jobs and he suffered very little at all. He did less time than guys with a bag of pot have done. Yeah, you have a point. And yeah... I forgot about Victor Salva!  |
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Post by Sir_Farty_Fartsalot on Jan 30, 2018 9:56:40 GMT
In 1988, Salva was convicted of sexual misconduct with one of Clownhouse's underage stars – a 12-year-old boy – including videotaping one of the encounters. Commercial videotapes and magazines containing child pornography were also found in his home. Salva pleaded guilty to lewd and lascivious conduct, oral sex with a person under 14, and procuring a child for pornography. He was sentenced to three years in state prison, of which he served 15 months. He completed his parole in 1992.
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Post by poelzig on Jan 30, 2018 9:57:13 GMT
So it gives you great pleasure that an admitted pedophile will go unpunished? WOW!!!! You and cheese ARE a perfect match. So you know more than a professional psychiatrist do you? Polanski was assessed and he was not deemed to be a pedophile. He didn't even know how old Geimer was, and she also lied to men about her age. Yes, Polanski was very foolish and she still looked young; but Geimer, the so-called victim, DOES NOT WANT POLANSKI TO BE CONTINUALLY VICTIMIZED HERSELF. SHE FORGIVES HIM. It is also in her best interests that Polanski be absolved, because her worst fear would be having Polanski back in the US and him before the courts again. It would not make her look good, after the passage of time and the truth about what really went down, the timeline and the evidence that would not work too much in her favor. It would expose lies, corruption and deceit from all parties involved. It is not a black and white case. Polanski, will never be convicted of raping her. Only for perverting the course of justice, that perverted itself. It will all fold in on itself. It failed Geimer and it failed Polanski. The legal system can take the onus for that. Stop being so hyperbolic all the time cheesy. It's terrible that Polanski went through so much trauma but don't pretend you were there when that girl was raped unless you were. Why is she the liar in your opinion? Did she get rich off of being raped? Nope. So why lie? I've had numerous tragedies in my life with losing loved ones, being brutally attacked in my home by 2 psychopaths, being robbed at gunpoint more than once, being wrongfully arrested etc... By your logic I should be allowed to beat you within an inch of your life and walk away with no punishment. Maybe roofie you up and pimp your ass out too. Would you wake up in the hospital and say "Oh well Poelzig had a rough life let him go."? Also why I got to be an ex con and have numerous aliases? I have been arrested but that doesn't make me a con. Never had any other account here but this one. What would be the point? I'm not afraid to say what I think. I'm sorry it bothers you when I shine the harsh light of reality on society's foibles. |
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Post by poelzig on Jan 30, 2018 10:01:04 GMT
His movies still make money and he's still got serious skills as a director. That's the ONLY reason Hollywood hypocrites still work with him. Hell that sick freak that made Clown House and reaped a little boy while making the movie still gets jobs and he suffered very little at all. He did less time than guys with a bag of pot have done. Yeah, you have a point. And yeah... I forgot about Victor Salva! Damn Salva looks like the prototypical child molester doesn't he? How could anyone with a conscience watch that guy take a ten year old boy into a trailer and just turn and walk away? I love movies but Hollywood is really a cesspool. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2018 10:17:31 GMT
So you know more than a professional psychiatrist do you? Polanski was assessed and he was not deemed to be a pedophile. He didn't even know how old Geimer was, and she also lied to men about her age. Yes, Polanski was very foolish and she still looked young; but Geimer, the so-called victim, DOES NOT WANT POLANSKI TO BE CONTINUALLY VICTIMIZED HERSELF. SHE FORGIVES HIM. It is also in her best interests that Polanski be absolved, because her worst fear would be having Polanski back in the US and him before the courts again. It would not make her look good, after the passage of time and the truth about what really went down, the timeline and the evidence that would not work too much in her favor. It would expose lies, corruption and deceit from all parties involved. It is not a black and white case. Polanski, will never be convicted of raping her. Only for perverting the course of justice, that perverted itself. It will all fold in on itself. It failed Geimer and it failed Polanski. The legal system can take the onus for that. Stop being so hyperbolic all the time cheesy. It's terrible that Polanski went through so much trauma but don't pretend you were there when that girl was raped unless you were. Why is she the liar in your opinion? Did she get rich off of being raped? Nope. So why lie? I've had numerous tragedies in my life with losing loved ones, being brutally attacked in my home by 2 psychopaths, being robbed at gunpoint more than once, being wrongfully arrested etc... By your logic I should be allowed to beat you within an inch of your life and walk away with no punishment. Maybe roofie you up and pimp your ass out too. Would you wake up in the hospital and say "Oh well Poelzig had a rough life let him go."? Also why I got to be an ex con and have numerous aliases? I have been arrested but that doesn't make me a con. Never had any other account here but this one. What would be the point? I'm not afraid to say what I think. I'm sorry it bothers you when I shine the harsh light of reality on society's foibles. And don't pretend that you were there, and saw that she was raped. Do some homework. I didn't have to do much, because I was fortunate to read up on some stuff that had been throughly researched. You ONLY believe what you want too. Geimer's story didn't much match the evidence to support a rape trial. Even the evidence of her underwear that was tested. The spermatoza didn't match Polanski's. Why aren't you calling for her mother's blood, for whoring her underage daughter out for a nude photo shoot? Ha! So now I'm hyperbolic, because I gave you back what you were giving me. Tough tamales sunshine! You know what? I don't give a s<>t what happened to you either, because it's not my problem and it's not that important in the grander scheme of things. You sound like somebody that brought those things on yourself, so don't attempt to justify yourself to me, as though you are squeaky clean. Your light is dim, because your hate is your biggest obstacle and dilemma. You would hate on Polanski and will still hate on him, regardless of what happens to him. It's all about you and your lack of empathy and compassion. You still don't know why you care for this middle aged woman who Polanski had sex with when she was 13 and which he admitted too, due to all the bogus evidence of a rape charge not being indictable. Oh yeah, I forgot to add. She claimed a lawsuit in her favor in the late 80's, extorting money out of Polanski, claiming PTSD or some s<>t. Now go and do some homework please. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2018 10:26:14 GMT
Yeah, you have a point. And yeah... I forgot about Victor Salva! How could anyone with a conscience watch that guy take a ten year old boy into a trailer and just turn and walk away? I love movies but Hollywood is really a cesspool. I thought that was you. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 30, 2018 11:33:10 GMT
So the bad things that happen to people should remove the taint of their kiddy diddling behavior?Defense lawyers should be happy to hear that. Not in a legal sense but in a psychological sense, yes. Most people can't even comprehend the horrors he went through before sexually assaulting that girl. He should be persecuted and pitied at the same time. I would have been on the edge of insanity by that point. I have a great deal of empathy for anyone that has suffered in the way both him and his victim have. I think it's easy to pity him for the one and condemn him for the other. He has had several decades to reconcile the two. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2018 23:28:14 GMT
Not in a legal sense but in a psychological sense, yes. Most people can't even comprehend the horrors he went through before sexually assaulting that girl. He should be persecuted and pitied at the same time. I would have been on the edge of insanity by that point. I have a great deal of empathy for anyone that has suffered in the way both him and his victim have. I think it's easy to pity him for the one and condemn him for the other. He has had several decades to reconcile the two. What do you mean by reconcile the two? What is it exactly, that you want him to do? |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 31, 2018 0:13:50 GMT
His movies still make money and he's still got serious skills as a director. That's the ONLY reason Hollywood hypocrites still work with him. Hell that sick freak that made Clown House and reaped a little boy while making the movie still gets jobs and he suffered very little at all. He did less time than guys with a bag of pot have done. Yeah, you have a point. And yeah... I forgot about Victor Salva! Wow, I can't believe how much this person looks like THIS person... Brrrrr...   ![]() ![]() |
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Post by marianne48 on Jan 31, 2018 2:27:35 GMT
Child rapist and pedophile and rotten human being. The fact that he made a few good movies doesn't grant him any kind of immunity for his loathsome crimes (the current number of accusations against him is about 11 at this point). Many people have lived through the horrors of war and did not become perverts as a result. The fact that this is used as an excuse to condone Polanski's filthy behavior is an insult to other survivors.
As for poor Sharon Tate, he treated her like dirt, controlling the way she dressed and wore her makeup, and forcing her into threesomes with other women to fulfill his sick fantasies, despite her protests. He refused
to sleep in the same bed with her after she got pregnant and demanded that she have an abortion. When she refused, he flew to Europe and had an affair with Michelle Phillips. If she hadn't been murdered, she just may have ended up miserable, drug- or alcohol-dependent, or possibly mentally ill as a result of Polanski's cruel treatment of her. Besides the forcible rapes, he also had several "consensual" affairs with underage girls. Anyone who defends this creep as some poor tormented artist should be ashamed of themselves.
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