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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 16:32:23 GMT
"Walk by faith, not by sight."
When you choose to accept him, you know He's real. It is about separating those who want to follow Him and those who don't. God isn't forcing anyone to follow Him.
So the whole "I need evidence for God" argument is moot. He reveals Himself when you accept him. If you are a skeptic, or don't believe, or don't want to believe, then you made your decision in life.
God just wants those who WANT to follow him, he doesn't want a bunch of people who believe because they have to.
How many Atheists would really want to follow Jesus' message and teachings if you HAD to? If God came down from Heaven right now, walked to the capital of the United States and declared he is real and his message in the Bible is 100% correct and you need to follow the way of Christ.
How many of you Atheists would be disappointed? How many of you would WANT to believe? You would be forced to follow someone and have resentment in your heart because you're forced to live a lifestyle you don't want to live. So therefore God gives everyone free will. Free will to choose. He doesn't want you if you HAVE to believe in him with proof or evidence out of circumstances, he wants followers who WANT to worship Him.
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Post by thefleetsin on Mar 10, 2017 16:35:54 GMT
excuse me but your analysis has more holes in it then the hindenberg right before it crashed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 16:36:41 GMT
"He wants followers who WANT to worship him"
What, like on Facebook?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 16:38:46 GMT
excuse me but your analysis has more holes in it then the hindenberg right before it crashed. No, you see what you want to see and make excuses for the things you want to avoid because as a human being... you simply want to mold the world to fit your beliefs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 16:40:56 GMT
"Walk by faith, not by sight." When you choose to accept him, you know He's real. It is about separating those who want to follow Him and those who don't. God isn't forcing anyone to follow Him. So the whole "I need evidence for God" argument is moot. He reveals Himself when you accept him. If you are a skeptic, or don't believe, or don't want to believe, then you made your decision in life. God just wants those who WANT to follow him, he doesn't want a bunch of people who believe because they have to. How many Atheists would really want to follow Jesus' message and teachings if you HAD to? If God came down from Heaven right now, walked to the capital of the United States and declared he is real and his message in the Bible is 100% correct and you need to follow the way of Christ. How many of you Atheists would be disappointed? How many of you would WANT to believe? You would be forced to follow someone and have resentment in your heart because you're forced to live a lifestyle you don't want to live. So therefore God gives everyone free will. Free will to choose. He doesn't want you if you HAVE to believe in him with proof or evidence out of circumstances, he wants followers who WANT to worship Him. Oh I see. So if I choose to believe in unicorns, unicorns will magically exist. Man, you people are retarded.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 16:41:57 GMT
excuse me but your analysis has more holes in it then the hindenberg right before it crashed. No, you see what you want to see and make excuses for the things you want to avoid because as a human being... you simply want to mold the world to fit your beliefs. Fleetsin's mold for the world must be better than God's... I can't see fleetsin wanting 'likes' in America, whilst letting innocent children in Africa starve... PS. It would be nice if fleetsin did some lighter poetry as well, you know about the joys of puppies, and other good shit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 16:43:13 GMT
"Walk by faith, not by sight." When you choose to accept him, you know He's real. It is about separating those who want to follow Him and those who don't. God isn't forcing anyone to follow Him. So the whole "I need evidence for God" argument is moot. He reveals Himself when you accept him. If you are a skeptic, or don't believe, or don't want to believe, then you made your decision in life. God just wants those who WANT to follow him, he doesn't want a bunch of people who believe because they have to. How many Atheists would really want to follow Jesus' message and teachings if you HAD to? If God came down from Heaven right now, walked to the capital of the United States and declared he is real and his message in the Bible is 100% correct and you need to follow the way of Christ. How many of you Atheists would be disappointed? How many of you would WANT to believe? You would be forced to follow someone and have resentment in your heart because you're forced to live a lifestyle you don't want to live. So therefore God gives everyone free will. Free will to choose. He doesn't want you if you HAVE to believe in him with proof or evidence out of circumstances, he wants followers who WANT to worship Him. Oh I see. So if I choose to believe in unicorns, unicorns will magically exist. Man, you people are retarded. Unicorns didn't create the universe, create humanity, and spiritually reveal themselves to us. Look, God isn't asking you to follow Him, He is simply laying out the plan for humanity. You don't believe, that's on you. You made your decision, that's your personal choice. I'm not even asking you to believe, I'm just stating what is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 16:45:33 GMT
Oh I see. So if I choose to believe in unicorns, unicorns will magically exist. Man, you people are retarded. Unicorns didn't create the universe, create humanity, and spiritually reveal themselves to us. Look, God isn't asking you to follow Him, He is simply laying out the plan for humanity. You don't believe, that's on you. You made your decision, that's your personal choice. I'm not even asking you to believe, I'm just stating what is. His plan for humanity sucks... war, famine, overpopulation, anthropogenic environmental collapse... If he is our father, he is a deadbeat dad.
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Post by thefleetsin on Mar 10, 2017 16:50:23 GMT
excuse me but your analysis has more holes in it then the hindenberg right before it crashed. No, you see what you want to see and make excuses for the things you want to avoid because as a human being... you simply want to mold the world to fit your beliefs. molding the world to fit my beliefs? please. you know not who you are speaking to. for i was a deep-seated believer for over a quarter of a century and THEN i woke up. then i realized that god(s) were nothing more than glorified marketing campaigns, perpetuating institutions of the ego-manically vain.
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Post by Sulla on Mar 10, 2017 18:31:54 GMT
ARGUMENT FROM STUBBORNNESS (1) There is no evidence for Krishna. (2) You don't believe in Krishna because you just don't want to change your lifestyle. (3) Therefore, Krishna exists.
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Post by vernuf on Mar 10, 2017 18:53:44 GMT
What a load of dishonest, self-serving nonsense.
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Post by vernuf on Mar 10, 2017 18:55:00 GMT
Oh I see. So if I choose to believe in unicorns, unicorns will magically exist. Man, you people are retarded. Unicorns didn't create the universe, create humanity, and spiritually reveal themselves to us. Look, God isn't asking you to follow Him, He is simply laying out the plan for humanity. You don't believe, that's on you. You made your decision, that's your personal choice. I'm not even asking you to believe, I'm just stating what is. Do you know what special pleading is?
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Mar 10, 2017 18:55:15 GMT
"Walk by faith, not by sight." When you choose to accept him, you know He's real. It is about separating those who want to follow Him and those who don't. God isn't forcing anyone to follow Him. So the whole "I need evidence for God" argument is moot. He reveals Himself when you accept him. If you are a skeptic, or don't believe, or don't want to believe, then you made your decision in life. God just wants those who WANT to follow him, he doesn't want a bunch of people who believe because they have to. How many Atheists would really want to follow Jesus' message and teachings if you HAD to? If God came down from Heaven right now, walked to the capital of the United States and declared he is real and his message in the Bible is 100% correct and you need to follow the way of Christ. How many of you Atheists would be disappointed? How many of you would WANT to believe? You would be forced to follow someone and have resentment in your heart because you're forced to live a lifestyle you don't want to live. So therefore God gives everyone free will. Free will to choose. He doesn't want you if you HAVE to believe in him with proof or evidence out of circumstances, he wants followers who WANT to worship Him. How does god reveal himself to you?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 10, 2017 18:57:25 GMT
It is about separating those who want to follow Him and those who don't. God isn't forcing anyone to follow Him. You nailed it right there, organized religions are all about separating people. The 'saved' group and the 'unsaved'. Be happy the 'unholy' exist because you wouldn't know how holy and righteous you are without them. I guess you're not talking about the God who punishes people for eternity if they don't follow him. That God might not be 'forcing', but if it's 'Follow me or suffer forever' He isn't giving much of a choice is He?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 18:59:16 GMT
ARGUMENT FROM STUBBORNNESS (1) There is no evidence for Krishna. (2) You don't believe in Krishna because you just don't want to change your lifestyle. (3) Therefore, Krishna exists. (3) I for one am glad he does... his Soho vegetarian restaurant off Oxford Street is the Don of London veggie eateries 👍
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Mar 10, 2017 19:05:37 GMT
ARGUMENT FROM STUBBORNNESS (1) There is no evidence for Krishna. (2) You don't believe in Krishna because you just don't want to change your lifestyle. (3) Therefore, Krishna exists. (3) I for one am glad he does... his Soho vegetarian restaurant off Oxford Street is the Don of London veggie eateries 👍 Before you make another post, take a screenshot of your account. You've made 666 posts which has made you Satan!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 19:19:09 GMT
(3) I for one am glad he does... his Soho vegetarian restaurant off Oxford Street is the Don of London veggie eateries 👍 Before you make another post, take a screenshot of your account. You've made 666 posts which has made you Satan! I thought it was a special honour bestowed on me 😕 Now on 667, I will just be the neighbour of the beast.
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Post by Sulla on Mar 10, 2017 19:36:44 GMT
ARGUMENT FROM STUBBORNNESS (1) There is no evidence for Krishna. (2) You don't believe in Krishna because you just don't want to change your lifestyle. (3) Therefore, Krishna exists. (3) I for one am glad he does... his Soho vegetarian restaurant off Oxford Street is the Don of London veggie eateries 👍 You've made a good decision in this life. Krishna wants us to believe in him without evidence. Otherwise in the next life, we may return as a roach or a cat in a Vietnamese restaurant.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 11, 2017 15:42:53 GMT
No, you see what you want to see and make excuses for the things you want to avoid because as a human being... you simply want to mold the world to fit your beliefs. molding the world to fit my beliefs? please. you know not who you are speaking to. for i was a deep-seated believer for over a quarter of a century and THEN i woke up. then i realized that god(s) were nothing more than glorified marketing campaigns, perpetuating institutions of the ego-manically vain. "for i was a deep-seated believer for over a quarter of a century and THEN i woke up. "
So was I. What started your realization process?
I started asking questions about inconsistencies in the bible, and got answers that were designed to make me stop asking questions rather that addressing the question directly.
And I realized that I was doing all the "right" things, but derived no feeling of any closeness to this god that I talked to on an hourly basis.
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Post by Jonesy1 on Mar 11, 2017 15:48:54 GMT
Before you make another post, take a screenshot of your account. You've made 666 posts which has made you Satan! I thought it was a special honour bestowed on me 😕 Now on 667, I will just be the neighbour of the beast. Does reaching 666 posts automatically make you an Iron Maiden fan?
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