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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 26, 2018 7:18:47 GMT
In Black Panther, when the rogue CIA agent saw T'Challa in the casino, he told his handler that "the King of Wakanda" is here. HUGE PLOTHOLE!
How the fuck does that rogue CIA agent or anyone else outside Wakanda for that matter know T'Challa is the King of Wakanda? Wakanda is ioslationist so no foreigners are allowed to go into Wakanda so no foreigners were present when T'Challa fought the duel for the Crown or when T'Challa was coronated and Wakanda didn't record the duel or the coronation on videotape so no foreigners witnessed the duel or the coronation. So how the fuck would any foreigner know who the King of Wakanda was? HUGE PLOTHOLE!
Same plothole in Civil War. 1st, why the fuck is T'Chaka allowed to address the UN? Like I said, no one outside Wakanda knows who the King of Wakanda is or even heard of Wakanda so why would they allow T'Chaka to address the UN. And 2nd, when T'Challa and Bucky were arrested by the police after the chase on the highway, why the fuck would the police just let T'Challa go. Because T'Challa claimed diplomatic immunity? So a guy who was wearing a mask and arrested along with a suspected murderer claims to be the King of a country that no one's ever been to and that isn't even on any standard map of the world and the police just let him go free? HUGE PLOTHOLE!
And in First Avenger, how the fuck did Howard Stark get his hands on a large chunk of vibranium to make Cap's shield? Klaue wasn't alive in 1942 to steal the vibranium from Wakanda. So did Howard Stark go to Wakanda and steal the vibranium himself from Wakanda?
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 26, 2018 7:20:51 GMT
This is what I was hoping for. Good troll sir.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 26, 2018 7:25:05 GMT
I bet you rewatch all MCU movies every week to find things in them to criticize. Hilarious.
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Post by scabab on Feb 26, 2018 8:25:45 GMT
Dunno about the first two but the one about Howard Stakes and the Vibranium was alluded to in a comic. So there's your answer, his researchers found it in Africa, either Wakanda or the outskirts perhaps and then brought a small piece back.
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Post by damngumby on Feb 26, 2018 9:10:55 GMT
In the MCU, Wakanda is known to be an impoverished nation in Africa. MCU world maps show Wakanda’s location. Although fiercely isolationist, the Wakandan government even has UN representation. How does the outside world know who the Wakandan king is? The Wakandan government told them. Duh! I mean, it’s not like Wakanda is an invisible island that no one even knows exists ... in the middle of the busy shipping lanes of the Mediterranean ... where ships have just missed it for centuries ... until a German ship, pursuing an airplane, wanders into it. (BTW, how does a ship intercept and pursue an airplane? I thought the Amazonians were the only ones with magic boats.) You really need to stop trying to nit-pick THE BEST SUPERHERO MOVIE OF ALL TIME!Particularly after you spent so much time telling everyone that it is THE BEST SUPERHERO MOVIE OF ALL TIME!Wonder Woman's moment in the limelight was tragically brief ... and it’s failure to get nominated for even one Acadamy Award, in any category, must be quite humiliating for you. But cheer up, buckaroo. Aquaman is on the way! I’m sure it will give THE BEST SUPERHERO MOVIE OF ALL TIME!, a run for its money!
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Post by dazz on Feb 26, 2018 9:40:01 GMT
Your argument is the one with a plot hole you turd, Wakanda is not some mystery country no one has heard of, it's isolationist yes but not unknown, Wakanda would be known to a degree back in the 40's as Cap knows of Wakanda and the significance of the nation in Ultron in relation to vibranium, for Wakanda to be a known isolationist nation they need atleast a limited amount of outside representation to maintain their isolationism, they actively spread information and misinformation to feed the narrative of themselves they want the world to know.
As for the vibranium Stark had in CA:TFA I dunno that's likely just a tie into the comic origins or something, but otherwise every issue you have is based on a assumption you made because you are an idiot, the world knows of Wakanda they just don't know the truth of Wakanda, a better question would be this WHY THE FUCK was Klaue stealing vibranium trinkets? he sold his entire stash in Ultron to Ultron for billions why is he fucking about so much for so little, he should be minted at this point, it's easy to expl;ain but it is an issue that is deserving of explanation such unless I missed a bit where in either BP or AOU that stated Ultron, Vision or the government of some kind froze Klaue's accounts/stole his money otherwise WTF was he doing?
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Post by sostie on Feb 26, 2018 10:07:12 GMT
How the fuck does that rogue CIA agent or anyone else outside Wakanda for that matter know T'Challa is the King of Wakanda? Wakanda is ioslationist so no foreigners are allowed to go into Wakanda so no foreigners were present when T'Challa fought the duel for the Crown or when T'Challa was coronated and Wakanda didn't record the duel or the coronation on videotape so no foreigners witnessed the duel or the coronation. So how the fuck would any foreigner know who the King of Wakanda was? HUGE PLOTHOLE! Probably because he knows he is the heir to the thrown, due to him being the eldest son...you keep emphasising that Wakanda is an isolationist nation...so why should he know about any ceremonies that he has to go through. 1. Where the fuck did you get the idea that no one heard heard of Wakanda and it's king? 2. He wasn't addressing the UN....the UN is in New York dipshit, he was at a conference in Vienna to ratify the Sokovia Accords. 3. A reason he was there to support the Acoords was perhaps because a delegation of Wakandian's were killed accidentally by Scarlet Witch at the beginning of the film. You may have noticed on that crappy online copy of BP you watched that Wakanda is hit by a meteorite made of vibranium. Guess what, it is possible smaller meteorites may have hit Earth over the billions of years it's existed. Or maybe at some point in history some was smuggled out of the country. Do you really need every element of a film spoon fed to you.
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 26, 2018 12:55:21 GMT
I remember when no one knew China existed or who the leaders were until Nixon visited there. There was just a black hole on maps everywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:24:45 GMT
In Black Panther, when the rogue CIA agent saw T'Challa in the casino, he told his handler that "the King of Wakanda" is here. HUGE PLOTHOLE! How the fuck does that rogue CIA agent or anyone else outside Wakanda for that matter know T'Challa is the King of Wakanda? Wakanda is ioslationist so no foreigners are allowed to go into Wakanda so no foreigners were present when T'Challa fought the duel for the Crown or when T'Challa was coronated and Wakanda didn't record the duel or the coronation on videotape so no foreigners witnessed the duel or the coronation. So how the fuck would any foreigner know who the King of Wakanda was? HUGE PLOTHOLE! Same plothole in Civil War. 1st, why the fuck is T'Chaka allowed to address the UN? Like I said, no one outside Wakanda knows who the King of Wakanda is or even heard of Wakanda so why would they allow T'Chaka to address the UN. And 2nd, when T'Challa and Bucky were arrested by the police after the chase on the highway, why the fuck would the police just let T'Challa go. Because T'Challa claimed diplomatic immunity? So a guy who was wearing a mask and arrested along with a suspected murderer claims to be the King of a country that no one's ever been to and that isn't even on any standard map of the world and the police just let him go free? HUGE PLOTHOLE! And in First Avenger, how the fuck did Howard Stark get his hands on a large chunk of vibranium to make Cap's shield? Klaue wasn't alive in 1942 to steal the vibranium from Wakanda. So did Howard Stark go to Wakanda and steal the vibranium himself from Wakanda? There are NO PLOTHOLES in Bayesian statistics. Black Panther is irreproachable. Now, be on your way, sir.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 16:50:47 GMT
GIVE SOMEONE THE SOMETHING!!!!!!!!1!!!!
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 26, 2018 18:36:49 GMT
Your argument is the one with a plot hole you turd, Wakanda is not some mystery country no one has heard of, it's isolationist yes but not unknown, Wakanda would be known to a degree back in the 40's as Cap knows of Wakanda and the significance of the nation in Ultron in relation to vibranium, for Wakanda to be a known isolationist nation they need atleast a limited amount of outside representation to maintain their isolationism, they actively spread information and misinformation to feed the narrative of themselves they want the world to know. As for the vibranium Stark had in CA:TFA I dunno that's likely just a tie into the comic origins or something, but otherwise every issue you have is based on a assumption you made because you are an idiot, the world knows of Wakanda they just don't know the truth of Wakanda, a better question would be this WHY THE FUCK was Klaue stealing vibranium trinkets? he sold his entire stash in Ultron to Ultron for billions why is he fucking about so much for so little, he should be minted at this point, it's easy to expl;ain but it is an issue that is deserving of explanation such unless I missed a bit where in either BP or AOU that stated Ultron, Vision or the government of some kind froze Klaue's accounts/stole his money otherwise WTF was he doing? He's a habitual criminal. Some just love the rush of getting more money. Vibranium is his thing and he knows he can make weapons from it or sell the metal as is.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 26, 2018 19:35:49 GMT
Your argument is the one with a plot hole you turd, Wakanda is not some mystery country no one has heard of, it's isolationist yes but not unknown, Wakanda would be known to a degree back in the 40's as Cap knows of Wakanda and the significance of the nation in Ultron in relation to vibranium, for Wakanda to be a known isolationist nation they need atleast a limited amount of outside representation to maintain their isolationism, they actively spread information and misinformation to feed the narrative of themselves they want the world to know. As for the vibranium Stark had in CA:TFA I dunno that's likely just a tie into the comic origins or something, but otherwise every issue you have is based on a assumption you made because you are an idiot, the world knows of Wakanda they just don't know the truth of Wakanda, a better question would be this WHY THE FUCK was Klaue stealing vibranium trinkets? he sold his entire stash in Ultron to Ultron for billions why is he fucking about so much for so little, he should be minted at this point, it's easy to expl;ain but it is an issue that is deserving of explanation such unless I missed a bit where in either BP or AOU that stated Ultron, Vision or the government of some kind froze Klaue's accounts/stole his money otherwise WTF was he doing? You're wrong again! For a country to be known to the world, at least 1 of the following must be true: 1. The country must appear on most standard world maps. 2. Many foreigners must have visited the country. 3. The country must have either an embassy in a foreign country or a foreign country's embassy within their borders. Given the fact that Wakanda is hidden from the rest of the world and doesn't allow foreigners into the country and is isolationist (and therefore wouldn't have established any diplomatic relations with foreign countries), that means none of the above is true. So no one outside of Wakanda has ever heard of Wakanda or seen Wakanda on any world map and since no one outside Wakanda saw the duel or the coronation, how the fuck does the rest of the world even know who the King of Wakanda is? HUGE PLOTHOLE!!!
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 26, 2018 19:43:06 GMT
I remember when no one knew China existed or who the leaders were until Nixon visited there. There was just a black hole on maps everywhere. Everyone knew China existed. Remember that the British had a 99-year lease on Hong Kong and the Portuguese had a lease on Macau starting in the 16th century.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 26, 2018 19:54:03 GMT
Post all the idiotic troll threads you want.
MCU = Still Winning!
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Post by dazz on Feb 26, 2018 20:36:33 GMT
Your argument is the one with a plot hole you turd, Wakanda is not some mystery country no one has heard of, it's isolationist yes but not unknown, Wakanda would be known to a degree back in the 40's as Cap knows of Wakanda and the significance of the nation in Ultron in relation to vibranium, for Wakanda to be a known isolationist nation they need atleast a limited amount of outside representation to maintain their isolationism, they actively spread information and misinformation to feed the narrative of themselves they want the world to know. As for the vibranium Stark had in CA:TFA I dunno that's likely just a tie into the comic origins or something, but otherwise every issue you have is based on a assumption you made because you are an idiot, the world knows of Wakanda they just don't know the truth of Wakanda, a better question would be this WHY THE FUCK was Klaue stealing vibranium trinkets? he sold his entire stash in Ultron to Ultron for billions why is he fucking about so much for so little, he should be minted at this point, it's easy to expl;ain but it is an issue that is deserving of explanation such unless I missed a bit where in either BP or AOU that stated Ultron, Vision or the government of some kind froze Klaue's accounts/stole his money otherwise WTF was he doing? You're wrong again! For a country to be known to the world, at least 1 of the following must be true: 1. The country must appear on most standard world maps. 2. Many foreigners must have visited the country. 3. The country must have either an embassy in a foreign country or a foreign country's embassy within their borders. Given the fact that Wakanda is hidden from the rest of the world and doesn't allow foreigners into the country and is isolationist (and therefore wouldn't have established any diplomatic relations with foreign countries), that means none of the above is true. So no one outside of Wakanda has ever heard of Wakanda or seen Wakanda on any world map and since no one outside Wakanda saw the duel or the coronation, how the fuck does the rest of the world even know who the King of Wakanda is? HUGE PLOTHOLE!!!Who is to say they don't you fucking imbecile, they could very well appear in world maps, we know it has been pointed out in various ones we have seen in the films, but has there ever been a specific scene where a character is looking at a world map specifically Africa where Wakanda is and Wakanda not appear at all? most likely not and an assumption by you, the average person may not know specifically about Wakanda but that doesn't mean it's not known at all, seeing as how in AOU both Cap & Tony know of it instantly, that Fury is keeping an eye on the place, that the meaning of Wakandan brands is researchable ffs tells you Wakanda is not unknown, the true Wakanda is but they put up a front to the rest of the world, this means they are known enough to need to do so.
As for Emassy's who says they don't have any at all? they could have select ones for all we know in other remote locations or African countries, they could have embassies in Wakanda just not in the true Wakanda but in the less populated fake Wakanda and hell they ambassadors to Wakanda could be Wakandan agents sent to pose to be from those countries as a means to appear to give Wakanda some world wide recognition but keep their nature hidden, these are assumptions I admit but so it your whole fucking issue, yah dumb fuck.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 26, 2018 21:04:19 GMT
You're wrong again! For a country to be known to the world, at least 1 of the following must be true: 1. The country must appear on most standard world maps. 2. Many foreigners must have visited the country. 3. The country must have either an embassy in a foreign country or a foreign country's embassy within their borders. Given the fact that Wakanda is hidden from the rest of the world and doesn't allow foreigners into the country and is isolationist (and therefore wouldn't have established any diplomatic relations with foreign countries), that means none of the above is true. So no one outside of Wakanda has ever heard of Wakanda or seen Wakanda on any world map and since no one outside Wakanda saw the duel or the coronation, how the fuck does the rest of the world even know who the King of Wakanda is? HUGE PLOTHOLE!!!Who is to say they don't you fucking imbecile, they could very well appear in world maps T'Challa said Wakanda is hidden from the rest of the world. If it's on most standard world maps, then it wouldn't be hidden and foreigners would go there. So Wakanda clearly isn't on any standard world maps since it's hidden and no foreigners go there. they could have embassies in Wakanda just not in the true Wakanda but in the less populated fake Wakanda 1st, if there were embassies in Wakanda, then there would be plenty of foreign visitors to Wakanda. But there are no foreign visitors to Wakanda and the movie makes it a point to have T'Challa and Killmonger remind the audience every 5 minutes that Wakanda is isolationist and doesn't allow foreigners into Wakanda. 2nd, when a country is invited to have an embassy in a foreign country, it's not the host country that picks what city the embassy is in. It's the foreign country that picks what city the embassy is in. The foreign country pays to build the embassy. And foreign countries don't build their embassies in densely populated areas. They build their embassies in the host countries capital city and other major cities. No foreign country puts their embassy in Marysville, California or Roswell, New Mexico. They put their embassies in Washington, DC or New York city or San Francisco or other major populated cities. Aside from establishing diplomatic relations, 1 of the main purposes of having an embassy in a foreign country is to provide services to citizens of that foreign country who are traveling to the host country so obviously embassies are put in capital cities and populated cities to be able to serve the most number of people.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 26, 2018 21:09:34 GMT
For someone who hates the MCU you sure do put a lot of thought into them, too bad all that brain power does not prove its worth as you get so much wrong its easy to classify you as a troll. You and Brownish33 from IMDb prime must've been really good friends...
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Post by dazz on Feb 26, 2018 21:10:19 GMT
An actual plot hole imo is in regards to the end scenes, just how long after the events of the rest of the movie do they take place, do they say & I missed it? because if BP takes place immediately after CW and Homecoming takes place 6 months after CW shouldn't the revelations of BP be felt in Homecoming? maybe a better end credit scene should have been for SMH that Peter & May are watching TV and watch T'Challa speak at the UN but we don't see the whole scene just his arriving to talk, then maybe have the May & Peter scene where she see's he's Spidey, give us context to the timeline of things maybe.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 26, 2018 21:13:25 GMT
For someone who hates the MCU you sure do put a lot of thought into them He knows absolutely everything about every MCU movie, he must rewatch them all of the time just so he can find new flaws in them. Pretty damn sad.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 26, 2018 22:36:16 GMT
Seems someone wasn't paying attention in the movies.
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