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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 5, 2018 17:12:59 GMT
Why would having an R rating change what is in the MCU? It will just add in profanity and some boobs and some blood. But we would still get the same movies. They could make a more violent and serious themed movie, like Blade or a similar kind of movie for Ghost Rider or another character. It'd be a movie equivalent of Daredevil, arguably the best thing to come from the MCU. It's not something they'd ever take the chance to do though. They only do it if it can be thrown on TV for cheap. Again, what would be the point? Would it make you feel more grown up for seeing it? |
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 5, 2018 17:16:20 GMT
When people say the MCU should do R rated stuff like the NETFLIX shows, I SMH. The MCU did do the R-rated NETFLIX shows. That's where the MCU has decided to tell it's R-Rated stories in a format where there is more time for story and character development. So stop asking for R-rated content from the MCU. They already have it! I ll compromise for more mature movies that are like WS and BP. So you are saying a movie that makes you laugh isn't mature? |
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Post by scabab on Mar 6, 2018 9:38:35 GMT
It had a secret conspiracy by a Nazi Offshoot using flying aircraft carriers using a program created by the ghost of a Swiss scientist. Still, much more grounded than what you had in the X-men movies where you had teleporting blue monsters, Sabertooth and Toad who were basically Lion and Frog people, someone that can move the Golden Gate Bridge, someone who can summon up a storm, someone who can turn into a block of ice, someone who can concentrate and kill all of humanity with his mind, whatever Phoenix was meant to be and more. Many of the MCU movies are far more grounded than the X-men movies. Yeah I know they didn't use the main one which is Johnny Blaze but after using him in Agents of Shield where they seem to throw all the no name characters, I highly doubt they'll make a movie of Ghost Rider now. That was just potential wasted. At least with Daredevil or Luke cage they had their own show. Ghost Rider could have even had a Netflix show but he couldn't get that either. That's not what people are saying. Logan didn't have any sex in it, the Batman vs Superman R rated cut didn't, the Blade movies didn't, The Punisher movies didn't. Daredevil would be the equivalent of an R and that didn't have any sex. Violence though yes, when it's appropriate, it's needed for things like Blade, Deadpool and Punisher. It works well for Wolverine, Ghost Rider and this Venom movie coming out. People don't want an R rated Ant-man or Guardians of the Galaxy but they could make R rated movies for the appropriate characters and they haven't, they throw it on TV instead. Neither did Logan going by all the trailers that came out for it showing him stabbing someone the skull. It was just a quality made movie that was received as such. Just because it wasn't full of characters making jokes, with people flailing around nude or quoting Vine videos doesn't make it a art movie. That's a plain lie. Those things have been pointed out since Day 1. The Bale voice in particular had numerous parodies of it from the get go. Well the movies don't have the main villain be Tony Stark though do they? They always give him an antagonist from the comic and The Mandarin was his most well known one, who just happened to be of the most interesting as well. Even if he only became his arch enemy since the 90's, it's still over a decade before the movie came out and it's the only one he has. And it's not that they didn't use him at all, it'd be one thing if they just didn't want to have the character. They did use him but not only did they turn it into a joke, they tried a failed plot twist were they attempted to make Aldrich Killain out to be the real Mandarin (even though that was never a thing in the comic), then they did a lousy cover up for the short where he too wasn't actually supposed to be the real Mandarin either. Whether it was done this way because they thought The Mandarin was too out there for the mostly realistic Iron Man movies or they were scared that they'd get called racist, I don't know but they did want to have him at one point and now they have completely butchered it altogether. |
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Post by charzhino on Mar 6, 2018 11:30:11 GMT
IM3 and Winter Soldier are more grounded than any Xmen film. IM3 could have easily chose to incorporate MAndarins 10 magical rings as a reality but (and rightly so) it would have clashed with the humanistic themes that Stark was going through.
Winter Soldier backed up its helicarriers and Arnim Zolas computer brain through scientific exposition. Thats grounded.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 6, 2018 12:03:48 GMT
Still, much more grounded than what you had in the X-men movies where you had teleporting blue monsters, Sabertooth and Toad who were basically Lion and Frog people, someone that can move the Golden Gate Bridge, someone who can summon up a storm, someone who can turn into a block of ice, someone who can concentrate and kill all of humanity with his mind, whatever Phoenix was meant to be and more. All grounded via "The X-Gene" and how the rest of the world reacted. Not really, you'd never see the X-Men fighting a God from another dimension. What's wrong with showing how cool the lesser known ones are? It had tons of gore and cursing, which was the main draw for anyone who didn't care about Logan's long history. I don't even know WHY that was rated R. He had sex with Elektra at least once. I'm pretty sure the R rated crowd would, just to see Ant-Man playing around in Wasp's cooch and Star-Lord having tentacle sex with an alien. Because they wanted to do TV series. Easy as that. It most definitely did, especially if you read all those comments by Mangold. If anything, they said making Joker omnipotent was a GOOD thing. The movie couldn't have any real flaws. They have a lot of problems come from his character flaws. It was hardly worse than TDKR with Talia. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 6, 2018 12:25:45 GMT
I never unstood why it's a controversial opinion on this board to want some R rated MCU films.
If anything it should be welcomed because It'd be more content for the MCU.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 6, 2018 12:55:30 GMT
It depends on the amount of comedy. Cap: TFA had a fair amount of laughs and it's a solid flick. But I don't want Captain Marvel to feel like Ragnarok, as much as I enjoyed it. It's their first attempt at a solo heroine film and they're going to make it a farce? Disappointing.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 6, 2018 14:17:54 GMT
I never unstood why it's a controversial opinion on this board to want some R rated MCU films. If anything it should be welcomed because It'd be more content for the MCU. Because when the people who say they want an R-Rated MCU flick, they mean they'd want something like Deadpool all the time.
IE, a Spidey flick where he has an explicit sex scene with another teenager.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Mar 6, 2018 14:37:52 GMT
I prefer films to have humor.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Mar 6, 2018 18:26:50 GMT
I prefer films to have humor. Humour is nice. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 11:15:03 GMT
I never unstood why it's a controversial opinion on this board to want some R rated MCU films.
It seems to be a controversial opinion among fans to want R rated comic book movies in general even though the Horror genre predates the superhero genre in comic books, there are thousands of Horror comic books and translated to screen a lot of them would be R rated and even X rated including the ones from nearly 100 years ago that were made before the Comics Code Authority came in 1954 and ruined the genre for a long time. I want to see more R rated comic book films but I want to see full on Horror superhero movies like 'Hack/Slash', 'Razor', 'Darkchylde', Faust: Love of the Damned', 'The Ravening' etc with lots of blood and gore like they have in the actual comic books. I would also like to see DC go as far as they do in the comic books with characters like Killer Croc, Solomon Grundy and Man Bat and have a 13 foot tall Killer Croc that eats people and tears their flesh apart and a Solomon Grundy that walks around with disembodied heads and arms. 
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Post by sostie on Mar 8, 2018 13:10:29 GMT
I never unstood why it's a controversial opinion on this board to want some R rated MCU films. If anything it should be welcomed because It'd be more content for the MCU. I never understand when people complain in general if a film is not R rated. People getting up in arms when it's rumoured an action film is not going to have that rating. I remember the complaints about Expendable 3 not being R-Rated before release...for me it didn't seem to gain or lose anything by being PG-13 (and was no worse than the other 2) As for CBMs - I have no issue with a CBM like Kick-Ass, Kingsmen, Atomic Blonde, Watchmen being R-Rated - they basically are "R-Rated" comics in the first place. But to complain that a franchise doesn't up the violence/sex/language when it is based on a character and/or storyline that was generally written for a wider audience seems odd to me. Not sure making some MCU films R-Rated will necessarily improve them, and more importantly for the studio, it just wouldn't make financial sense. I'm not saying I wouldn't like seeing some, I'm just not sure it would make any significant improvement. |
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