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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 20, 2018 9:49:09 GMT
I normally dislike shakey cam, but I find it very effective in Any Given Sunday. It was done for a valid reason, it is meant to make the viewer feel like they are in the middle of the action. Whether or not you think it works is a different story. The strange angles are an Oliver Stone trademark. It's just his style. Hey movieman, I see your point and i can see that the camera angles and movements were trying to simulate the eye line of an observer but in this case it didn't work for me. Comparing the camera work to two other Stone films i liked, Platoon and The Doors, and its very different. I just think its way over the top in this case and the film would have been a lot better for me if he had shot it like Platoon but each to their own Now platoon to me looks cheap and amateurish but the doors is very smooth
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Post by sjg on Mar 20, 2018 11:41:40 GMT
Hey movieman, I see your point and i can see that the camera angles and movements were trying to simulate the eye line of an observer but in this case it didn't work for me. Comparing the camera work to two other Stone films i liked, Platoon and The Doors, and its very different. I just think its way over the top in this case and the film would have been a lot better for me if he had shot it like Platoon but each to their own Now platoon to me looks cheap and amateurish but the doors is very smooth Interesting, its amazing how tastes differ. I like things straight forward and i suppose simple. I'm the same with music, art and food. Densely layered music annoys me and food with complex flavours doesn't interest me. So it's inevitable that unconventional filming techniques won't go down well here Platoon for me was perfectly filmed.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Mar 20, 2018 20:05:18 GMT
First time viewings:
Justice League (2017) -- The shift to overt humor over the ponderous philosophical musings in 'Batman versus Superman' makes all the difference. Still no fan of Ben Affleck's Batman, however. 6.5/10
The Disaster Artist (2017) - It seems appropriate that a movie about the making of "The Room" is as cringe-inducing and perversely funny as the actual movie. 7/10
In a Valley of Violence (2015) - Unremarkable western revenge story that never quite succeeds in creating a believable story universe you can buy into. Instead you get obvious back lot sets, cliched characters and John Travolta with a fake beard. 5/10
The Beguiled (2017) -- Haunting civil war story that involves a charming northern soldier being taken in by a southern school for girls. 7/10
Cabin Boy (1994) -- This movie reminds me of weird live-action Adult Swim fare; it takes an appreciation (or tolerance, at least) of a perverse, intentionally annoying style of humor to sit through, so I have to wonder why some movie studio in 1994 thought that people would actually pay to sit through and hour and half of this sort of thing that most people won't endure in free, 15 minute segments on the Cartoon Network. 2/10
Yours:
Annihilation - 7/10
Close Encounters -- 8/10
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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 20, 2018 21:16:47 GMT
First time viewings: Justice League (2017) -- The shift to overt humor over the ponderous philosophical musings in 'Batman versus Superman' makes all the difference. Still no fan of Ben Affleck's Batman, however. 6.5/10 The Disaster Artist (2017) - It seems appropriate that a movie about the making of "The Room" is as cringe-inducing and perversely funny as the actual movie. 7/10 In a Valley of Violence (2015) - Unremarkable western revenge story that never quite succeeds in creating a believable story universe you can buy into. Instead you get obvious back lot sets, cliched characters and John Travolta with a fake beard. 5/10 The Beguiled (2017) -- Haunting civil war story that involves a charming northern soldier being taken in by a southern school for girls. 7/10 Cabin Boy (1994) -- This movie reminds me of weird live-action Adult Swim fare; it takes an appreciation (or tolerance, at least) of a perverse, intentionally annoying style of humor to sit through, so I have to wonder why some movie studio in 1994 thought that people would actually pay to sit through and hour and half of this sort of thing that most people won't endure in free, 15 minute segments on the Cartoon Network. 2/10 Yours: Annihilation - 7/10 Close Encounters -- 8/10 Justice League (2017) -- bit of a mess but a better mess than bm v sm 6/10 The Disaster Artist (2017) -yup 7/10 The Beguiled (2017) -- 6/10
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 20, 2018 22:08:55 GMT
I normally dislike shakey cam, but I find it very effective in Any Given Sunday. It was done for a valid reason, it is meant to make the viewer feel like they are in the middle of the action. Whether or not you think it works is a different story. The strange angles are an Oliver Stone trademark. It's just his style. Hey movieman, I see your point and i can see that the camera angles and movements were trying to simulate the eye line of an observer but in this case it didn't work for me. Comparing the camera work to two other Stone films i liked, Platoon and The Doors, and its very different. I just think its way over the top in this case and the film would have been a lot better for me if he had shot it like Platoon but each to their ownI am mostly referring to Natural Born Killers and Alexander. I am pretty sure he uses strange angles quite a bit in Nixon and U-Turn as well. He just uses them to excess in a couple of his films, but I pretty much love the strange angles any time he uses them. Oliver Stone is one of my favorite directors btw.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 20, 2018 22:13:51 GMT
Now platoon to me looks cheap and amateurish but the doors is very smooth Interesting, its amazing how tastes differ. I like things straight forward and i suppose simple. I'm the same with music, art and food. Densely layered music annoys me and food with complex flavours doesn't interest me. So it's inevitable that unconventional filming techniques won't go down well here Platoon for me was perfectly filmed.I agree. Though my taste in film and music is much more broad then yours, so I would be inclined to say that both Any Given Sunday and Platoon are perfectly filmed. They are just using 2 completely different styles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 2:41:38 GMT
Places in the Heart (1984) 9\10
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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 21, 2018 6:04:18 GMT
Places in the Heart (1984) 9\10 Not familiar with this one
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 20:32:25 GMT
Thor: The Dark World (2013) 6\10
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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 22, 2018 0:20:37 GMT
Thor: The Dark World (2013) 6\10 6-6.5 from me
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Post by william on Mar 22, 2018 2:22:24 GMT
Yeah, I watched The Accidental Tourist again recently, I didn't mind it, but it does feel a bit dated, IMO. I remember loving Grand Canyon too, the one with Kevin Kline and Danny Glover, but I haven't seen it in a while. I might check out Mumford I had to google it, I had no idea what it was at first, but now it does sound familiar. Haven't seen it though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 23:35:35 GMT
Thor: Ragnarok (2017) 8\10
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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 23, 2018 0:35:02 GMT
Thor: Ragnarok (2017) 8\10 5.5 it was ok , plenty funny bu felt like an SNL parody of a thor film
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 4:08:18 GMT
The Wizard of Oz (1939) 9.5\10
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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 24, 2018 5:47:10 GMT
The Wizard of Oz (1939) 9.5\10 seen many times, great for its time, still holds up for the most part 7/10
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Post by petrolino on Mar 25, 2018 2:37:28 GMT
‘Pink Floyd : The Story Of Wish You Were Here’ (2012, Documentary – John Edginton)
Members of psychedelic rock group Pink Floyd recall the making of their album 'Wish You Were Here' (1975).
I suspect it's near-impossible for Pink Floyd fans to listen to the album 'Wish You Were Here' without thinking of Syd Barrett who turned up at the studio unannounced during sessions. I appreciate this documentary because a lot of honest opinions are expressed. I like to think Syd and Rick Wright are jamming on a cloud somewhere.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Mar 25, 2018 6:28:39 GMT
‘Pink Floyd : The Story Of Wish You Were Here’ (2012, Documentary – John Edginton) Members of psychedelic rock group Pink Floyd recall the making of their album 'Wish You Were Here' (1975). I suspect it's near-impossible for Pink Floyd fans to listen to the album 'Wish You Were Here' without thinking of Syd Barrett who turned up at the studio unannounced during sessions. I appreciate this documentary because a lot of honest opinions are expressed. I like to think Syd and Rick Wright are jamming on a cloud somewhere. I saw this a few years back, the syd barrett stuff was really interesting
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