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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 0:26:17 GMT
Not me.
We've had plenty of her in these movies already. She's just not that interesting. She has no powers and the reformed assassin trope is beyond played out in Hollywood.
Id rather see a HAWKEYE movie instead.
As for more female representation: how about a Scarlett Witchy Woman movie instead?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 0:28:42 GMT
A female agent/assassin comic book movie...well Atomic Blonde seemed fairly popular It's all in the the execution. I'd happily welcome a Black Widow movie. In fact I'd prefer that to an Elektra TV series, and Elektra is one of my fave comic book characters. Actually Daredevil comics were actually "Daredevil and Black Widow" for some years...how about those two somehow meeting up. No Daredevil is too dark and mature for MCU BW,shes only faced real danger in Winter Soldier. Worked in the comics, can work again in a live-action production and Charlie Cox is all in favor to have Black Widow appear on Daredevil or for Daredevil to appear in a movie with Black Widow. "too dark and mature" - Guess you missed the information drops from the movies where she is shown being trained by an evil organization that stripped her away from ever having a normal life and turning her into a living weapon( not too mention messing with her body and making it impossible for her to give birth to children), and the crimes she committed before turning good and going with SHIELD. "only faced real danger in Winter Soldier" - oh yeah, because an alien invasion and a highly advanced AI with an army of his own is no real danger. Right.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 0:29:38 GMT
Let's be honest here: if Kat Dennings was playing Black Widow, you'd support a film for her. Well Yeah Kat is a great actress and could carry movie by herself So is Scarlett Johansson and she can totally carry a movie by herself - and she has since she was a kid.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 0:30:38 GMT
Yes it's more female representation. Give it to a more deserving character like Elektra. Elektra already had a movie, it didn't go very well. Elektra in the MCU has not been portrayed as either very compelling or likeable.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 0:33:55 GMT
Why can't they both have them? The more the better. She has had her own comic, a decent size fanbase and been part of the MCU since 2010. No reason why she shouldn't have one. I would rather an intresting character get solo treatment like Elektra instead of getting a generic spy movie with BW. How do you know it would be a generic spy movie? Nobody knows what the Black Widow movie will be like, it's too early in development.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 0:34:46 GMT
What happened to "she's a boring spy movie" Kat might just make it intresting though I would Rather her play Black Cat meow By doing what exactly?
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Post by hardball on Apr 16, 2018 0:46:05 GMT
Does the world really need a Black Widow Movie? Its like giving Vision or Hawkeye solo movies,there is no demand. Wouldn't you guys rather see an Elektra movie or Netflix series? Shes more intresting than BW There was no demand for GOTG, Antman or Black Panther either. They turned out just fine.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 16, 2018 0:52:58 GMT
Does the world really need a Black Widow Movie? Its like giving Vision or Hawkeye solo movies,there is no demand. Wouldn't you guys rather see an Elektra movie or Netflix series? Shes more intresting than BW There was no demand for GOTG, Antman or Black Panther either. They turned out just fine. They tried getting Panther off the ground since the 90s,Wesley Snipes was involved at one point. I think at this point Widow would be a crash grab? Why have it at the end of the slate if there is a big demand?
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Post by hardball on Apr 16, 2018 0:56:10 GMT
There was no demand for GOTG, Antman or Black Panther either. They turned out just fine. They tried getting Panther off the ground since the 90s,Wesley Snipes was involved at one point. I think at this point Widow would be a crash grab? Why have it at the end of the slate if there is a big demand? So what if they were trying to get BP then? Were people demanding for it? If there is no demand for a BW movie, how can it be a cash grab? It would be a financial risk.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 16, 2018 0:57:36 GMT
No Daredevil is too dark and mature for MCU BW,shes only faced real danger in Winter Soldier. Worked in the comics, can work again in a live-action production and Charlie Cox is all in favor to have Black Widow appear on Daredevil or for Daredevil to appear in a movie with Black Widow. "too dark and mature" - Guess you missed the information drops from the movies where she is shown being trained by an evil organization that stripped her away from ever having a normal life and turning her into a living weapon( not too mention messing with her body and making it impossible for her to give birth to children), and the crimes she committed before turning good and going with SHIELD. "only faced real danger in Winter Soldier" - oh yeah, because an alien invasion and a highly advanced AI with an army of his own is no real danger. Right. You are right it worked in the comics,but the comics were serious and not silly like most of the movies. The movie characters and netflix won't fit in with each other,the netflix characters facs real danger and get hurt,they are not telling jokes or beating villians by dancing.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 16, 2018 1:03:02 GMT
They tried getting Panther off the ground since the 90s,Wesley Snipes was involved at one point. I think at this point Widow would be a crash grab? Why have it at the end of the slate if there is a big demand? So what if they were trying to get BP then? Were people demanding for it? If there is no demand for a BW movie, how can it be a cash grab? It would be a financial risk. Maybe they were demanding it all we had were those Burton/Schumacher batman movies and the superman movies. Its crash grab cause nobody is asking for it,if it was important maybe BW should of came before guardians and Antman. Also these same people say Cyborg and much of the other upcoming dc movies don't need to happen nor does Venom or the sony movies. Hypocritical much?
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Post by hardball on Apr 16, 2018 1:10:02 GMT
So what if they were trying to get BP then? Were people demanding for it? If there is no demand for a BW movie, how can it be a cash grab? It would be a financial risk. Maybe they were demanding it all we had were those Burton/Schumacher batman movies and the superman movies. Its crash grab cause nobody is asking for it,if it was important maybe BW should of came before guardians and Antman. Also these same people say Cyborg and much of the other upcoming dc movies don't need to happen nor does Venom or the sony movies. Hypocritical much It's cash grab. not crash grab. And use punctuation in your sentences as it's hard to read.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 16, 2018 1:20:35 GMT
Maybe they were demanding it all we had were those Burton/Schumacher batman movies and the superman movies. Its crash grab cause nobody is asking for it,if it was important maybe BW should of came before guardians and Antman. Also these same people say Cyborg and much of the other upcoming dc movies don't need to happen nor does Venom or the sony movies. Hypocritical much It's cash grab. not crash grab. And use punctuation in your sentences as it's hard to read. Does not change anything,so if all you can put is spelling errors you know I am right.
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Post by hardball on Apr 16, 2018 1:31:08 GMT
It's cash grab. not crash grab. And use punctuation in your sentences as it's hard to read. Does not change anything,so if all you can put is spelling errors you know I am right. Nothing you said is right. Maybe they were demanding it? Who's demanding it? I never said Cyborg or Venom doesn't need to happen. If other people don''t want those movies, that's their opinion. GOTG and AntMan came first because the MCU has long term plans. They're not going to make BW just for the sake of it.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 2:07:10 GMT
Worked in the comics, can work again in a live-action production and Charlie Cox is all in favor to have Black Widow appear on Daredevil or for Daredevil to appear in a movie with Black Widow. "too dark and mature" - Guess you missed the information drops from the movies where she is shown being trained by an evil organization that stripped her away from ever having a normal life and turning her into a living weapon( not too mention messing with her body and making it impossible for her to give birth to children), and the crimes she committed before turning good and going with SHIELD. "only faced real danger in Winter Soldier" - oh yeah, because an alien invasion and a highly advanced AI with an army of his own is no real danger. Right. You are right it worked in the comics,but the comics were serious and not silly like most of the movies. The movie characters and netflix won't fit in with each other,the netflix characters facs real danger and get hurt,they are not telling jokes or beating villians by dancing. Dude, wtf is wrong with you? "You are right it worked in the comics,but the comics were serious and not silly like most of the movies." - Oh knock it off with this BS, the MCU has as much variety in its storytelling as the comics are. We see books with dark stories and books with lighter ones all the time and often the characters in them do interact one way or the other and it's of no problem for the reader. Black Widow does not have a clean and chipper backstory in the movies and definitely would get along fine with Daredevil, thing is it would be stupid expensive to get Scarlett Johansson to appear on the show, but it would be welcomed as would it be if Charlie Cox popped up in one of the movies( it IS in his contract and he is definitely on board if they give the call). "The movie characters and netflix won't fit in with each other" - They occupy the same universe. "the netflix characters facs real danger" - Like what? It's all fictional. None of it is real. "and get hurt" - so do the movie characters, Quicksilver died remember? "they are not telling jokes" - Looks like you didn't see The Defenders as you claim because they *were* cracking jokes. "or beating villains by dancing" - Oh my god, this crap again. It didn't happen, accept it and stop having this bizarre obsession with a fiction you and some dumb internet trolls created. It's not healthy.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 2:15:01 GMT
So what if they were trying to get BP then? Were people demanding for it? If there is no demand for a BW movie, how can it be a cash grab? It would be a financial risk. Maybe they were demanding it all we had were those Burton/Schumacher batman movies and the superman movies. Its crash grab cause nobody is asking for it,if it was important maybe BW should of came before guardians and Antman. Also these same people say Cyborg and much of the other upcoming dc movies don't need to happen nor does Venom or the sony movies. Hypocritical much? Every movie is a cash grab, moron. Studios have to release movies so they can make money. They don't make it out from nothing and don't care if they get nothing in return. Black Widow didn't get her own solo movie then because there were other plans for her at the time, and its uncertain if they thought the best story for one could've fit in with their slate of films then. People are critical of the upcoming DC movies because most of them seem like knee jerk reactions and that it seems like they are biting off more than they can chew, not too mention some of them are about characters who serve better in supporting positions than the leads. People wouldn't have that much of a problem with the Venom or the other Sony movies if they were actually made by Marvel proper and were set in the MCU and featured actual ties with Spider-Man.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 16, 2018 2:32:15 GMT
Not me. We've had plenty of her in these movies already. She's just not that interesting. She has no powers and the reformed assassin trope is beyond played out in Hollywood. Agreed. There's already been Le Femme Nikita, Atomic Blonde, and Red Sparrow. A Black Widow movie would just be a rip-off of those movies.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 16, 2018 2:36:11 GMT
Maybe they were demanding it all we had were those Burton/Schumacher batman movies and the superman movies. Its crash grab cause nobody is asking for it,if it was important maybe BW should of came before guardians and Antman. Also these same people say Cyborg and much of the other upcoming dc movies don't need to happen nor does Venom or the sony movies. Hypocritical much? Black Widow didn't get her own solo movie then because there were other plans for her at the time, and its uncertain if they thought the best story for one could've fit in with their slate of films then. Black Widow didn't get her own solo movie because MCU Dictator Kevin Feige and the powers that be at MCU wanted t make movies with male lead characters only and didn't want to make any movies with a female led character, until Wonder Woman showed that female-led superhero movies can make money.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 16, 2018 2:53:22 GMT
Worked in the comics, can work again in a live-action production and Charlie Cox is all in favor to have Black Widow appear on Daredevil or for Daredevil to appear in a movie with Black Widow. "too dark and mature" - Guess you missed the information drops from the movies where she is shown being trained by an evil organization that stripped her away from ever having a normal life and turning her into a living weapon( not too mention messing with her body and making it impossible for her to give birth to children), and the crimes she committed before turning good and going with SHIELD. "only faced real danger in Winter Soldier" - oh yeah, because an alien invasion and a highly advanced AI with an army of his own is no real danger. Right. You are right it worked in the comics,but the comics were serious and not silly like most of the movies. The movie characters and netflix won't fit in with each other,the netflix characters facs real danger and get hurt,they are not telling jokes or beating villians by dancing. Actually, the Netflix heroes have an easier time of it than the Movie heroes do. The Movie heroes fight people who can actually hurt them while the Netflix heroes are usually fighting people who can't fight back. If anything, the Netflix heroes wouldn't fit the Movies because they'd have to fight REAL opponents. Whereas the Movie heroes would make mincemeat out of the Netflix villains. And no villain was ever beaten by dancing.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 16, 2018 2:54:04 GMT
Not me. We've had plenty of her in these movies already. She's just not that interesting. She has no powers and the reformed assassin trope is beyond played out in Hollywood. Agreed. There's already been Le Femme Nikita, Atomic Blonde, and Red Sparrow. A Black Widow movie would just be a rip-off of those movies. She predates all of them, so it's the other way around. If you knew anything about the comics you'd know this.
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